2024 U.S. Presidential Election

[Jessica Rabbit]

what a disaster Trump will easily win.  

[Confessit]

1 minute ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

*4 months... barely :-# 

Oh shit course it is!!

They have themselves to blame Biden should of stepped down long before now 

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

3 minutes ago, Jessica Rabbit said:

what a disaster Trump will easily win.  

Atp tb totally h IF Dems don't at least both flush Biden and *fully unify a brand new universally accepted/liked ticket Trump cremates Biden in the Elec. College & very likely the *popular vote AND win dark purple states & even blue ones! It was just that BAD. 

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

8 minutes ago, Confessit said:

Oh shit course it is!!

They have themselves to blame Biden should of stepped down long before now 

After the '22 midterms! On a high too in every way (for his legacy) & 1.5 years to have a robust primary & allow the world ALL that time to get familiar with them. Now, barely just 4 months like I said!! Mess! 

[Confessit]

2 minutes ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

After the '22 midterms! On a high too in every way (for his legacy) & 1.5 years to have a robust primary & allow the world ALL that time to get familiar with them. Now, barely just 4 months like I said!! Mess! 

Yeh maybe the boats sailed.

But the signs have been there he is just too old and delicate for the job for years now.

Its nothing new this lot.

[Camacho]

12 hours ago, zephyralexxx said:

Everyone I know from USA, americans or not, are voting for him.

Ewww get better American friends.

[Michael.]

How the fuck are they the only two options.

Yuck

[zephyralexxx]

1 hour ago, Camacho said:

Ewww get better American friends.

Too late, I’m afraid.

[GOD]

19 minutes ago, Michael. said:

How the fuck are they the only two options.

Yuck

Because it’s democracy. 

[Confessit]

Just now, GOD said:

Because it’s democracy. 

And that’s the scariest part 

[KalamazooJay]

Absolutely horrific. 

Biden looked, acted, and sounded as if there was a 30 year age difference between him and Trump. And the fact that Trump was able to skate through questions regarding his behavior after the 2020 election and his Supreme Court nominees was the most infuriating thing to watch.

Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for not pushing harder to get this man to step down. And Biden should be ashamed of himself for not doing it on his own.

I didn't think that there was a possibility of another candidate stepping in, but now I think it's imperative that someone does. 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

It gets worse. I did just watch what happened after the debate. Jill Biden commending her husband. "You did all the answers correctly". Like he is a 7 year old. 

[whyme?]

There's no doubt in my mind that if Biden wins the election, he will be an excellent president (and he was the last four years), and he'll pick the right smart people to help him do his job as he gets older and older. But America needs a charismatic rock star to get it to vote, and it's just not working out here with Biden, unfortunately.

As of now, he will 100% lose. It's best to take a chance and nominate a different democrat. That's our only chance.....

[Raider of the lost Ark]

The situation is frustrating and unfortunately a sign of our times. It seems very obvious too me that Biden is a maker, is getting the job done. Unfortunately he is not able to sell his achievements to the public, he is bad self-marketer. I say it's frustrating because I have seen this many times in my professional life. So many times I have seen people being hired because of the way they presented themselves in job interviews, talking all the great things they could bring to the company, their extensive knowledge. More often than not, they turned out to be utterly useless and couldn't get their tasks done or only with mediocre results. I am sure, the quiet ones that didn't get the job would have excelled. 

Biden can't hide his age or doesn't even tries to and is therefore giving a desastrous impression, even if his track record so far is a pretty great one. On MSNBC they explained the problem and said that others were simply better in hiding their issues, which is essential in US politics because US politics is basically a big show and what Americans actually seek for is a Captain America. Let's talk FDR, arguably the greatest president the US had, did voters ever see him in a  wheelchair? No. Would they have voted for him a third time if they knew he would not be alive a year later. JFK, another great one. Hiding his physical issues by drugging himself. Ronald Reagan, a favorite of the Republicans, from my perspective one of the worst ones considering he destroyed the American middle class, just like Thatcher did in the UK by deindustrializing her country. He was suffering from Alzheimers during his second term. He was an actor and therefore able to be in character and overplay the issues. If only Biden was a better pretender, we wouldn't be in this situation. 

[Jazzy Jan]

16 hours ago, VictorMarques said:

 

So people are easily into neofascism? To limit the woman liberty, pursue LGBTQ+ community, ban abortion pills and contraception methods. This is a nightmare. US are going to be a new Taliban with these measures.

It is terrifying and shocking.  I did not watch the debate as was working and I honestly don't want to.  I know Biden is old, fragile and shaky and don't need any debate to tell me that.  However,  the fact that people still are going to vote for a man as disgusting as Trump and turn a blind eye to his deranged followers with his support storming Parliament and not accepting the election results, his selections for the Supreme court judges who have overturned Roe V Wade thus taking away women's rights and the conspiracy loving ultra right nutjobs who are in the Republican party is even more frightening.  The fact he lies constantly and continues to do so is also chilling.  

Both the GOP and the Democrats should have a different leader.  The Democrats should have a young, eloquent and vital leader and the GOP should never have let Trump run again.  If Trump gets in again, I am afraid for the world.  Just listening to his comments already about what he will do if re-elected is awful.  I hope that women can see already what he has done and the fact that their rights have been taken away from them,  will see them reject the GOP entirely.  Democracy could be a thing of the past for the USA if he gets in again and that should frighten Americans a lot as democracy is something they cherish.  

[Jazzy Jan]

4 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

The situation is frustrating and unfortunately a sign of our times. It seems very obvious too me that Biden is a maker, is getting the job done. Unfortunately he is not able to sell his achievements to the public, he is bad self-marketer. I say it's frustrating because I have seen this many times in my professional life. So many times I have seen people being hired because of the way they presented themselves in job interviews, talking all the great things they could bring to the company, their extensive knowledge. More often then not, they turned out to be utterly useless and couldn't get there tasks done or only with mediocre results. I am sure, the quiet ones that didn't get the job would have excelled. 

Biden can't hide his age or doesn't even tries to and is therefore giving a desastrous impression, even if his track record so far is a pretty great one. On MSNBC they explained the problem and said that others were simply better in hiding their issues, which is essential in US politics because US politics is basically a big show and what Americans actually seek for is a Captain America. Let's talk FDR, arguably the greatest president the US had, did voters ever see him in a  wheelchair? No. Would they have voted for him a third time if they knew he would not be alive a year later. JFK, another great one. Hiding his physical issues by drugging himself. Ronald Reagan, a favorite of the Republicans, from my perspective one of the worst ones considering he destroyed the American middle class, just like Thatcher did in the UK by deindustrializing her country. He was suffering from Alzheimers during his second term. He was an actor and therefore able to be in character and overplay the issues. If only Biden was a better pretender, we wouldn't be in this situation. 

Agree entirely with everything you have said here. 

[Cyber-Raga]

Brave New World. I am really scared for the first time. What a shitshow. 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

In August the national convention of the democratic party will take place to officially nominate their candidate. Usually the winner of the primaries is chosen. Since there were not serious contenders, Biden won his primaries. Maybe in this convention lies the chance to nominate an "easier" candidate. Especially if Biden decides to step down. It's all a question how to sell this mess. I think they could sell it as an act of democracy and of course blame the ageism of the Republicans and their toxiticity, the lies, the fake reports and doctored videos to present Biden as senile and therefore poisening the elections. Stop the Michelle Obama mantra "If they ho low, we go high". In retrospect the most ill-advised and reality ignoring statement said in American poltics. F*ck it. Do people remember the movie "Disclosure" with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas and the e-mails Douglas character received, telling him he is playing their game and he should play his game. The same situation applies to the democrats, they need to start playing their game and not always only react to the Republican nonsene. Does Biden personally need to play dirty? Well, as we know now, he doesn't have it and that's admirable. But I'm sure there are a lot of people in the background more than willing to do the ugly. Has anyone read the book "Primary Colors" or watched the movie? Or maybe they should ask the people this was based on. They may have some ideas. 

People are saying, there is a risk a new candidate would lose to Trump. I don't see that. The situation is almost like 2020. Sane People simply don't want Trump. Therefore Democrats and most Independent will be easily swayed to a "presentable" Democratic candidate. In the end, it is about the few swing states anyway. The only problem I see is Kamala Harris. I did not see her step up and she is unfortunately to involved in the border issue, which appears to be one of the pressing issues this time. But I'm not sure. 

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

And ffs I'm actually seeing some...more than a few buffoon accounts on Twitter etc...w/ what seems like legit followers (dunno how many are truly human/non bots lol) who are almost like Far left Maga-esque grating af delusional. (eg: oh, was just ONE debate...Joe/Dark Brandon still gets my vote against the serial liar/rapist'!!) or (eg: 'Joe's BACK & pure fire in NC rally)'!! Weak sauce shit still propping up this lunacy lmao. Sick of ALL the nonsense and literally/seriously praying hard the *donors and powers players are already on IT hard behind the scenes rn.  

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

9 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

In August the national convention of the democratic party will take place to officially nominate their candidate. Usually the winner of the primaries is chosen. Since there were not serious contenders, Biden won his primaries. Maybe in this convention lies the chance to nominate an "easier" candidate. Especially if Biden decides to step down. It's all a question how to sell this mess. I think they could sell it as an act of democracy and of course blame the ageism of the Republicans and their toxiticity, the lies, the fake reports and doctored videos to present Biden as senile and therefore poisening the elections. Stop the Michelle Obama mantra "If they ho low, we go high". In retrospect the most ill-advised and reality ignoring statement said in American poltics. F*ck it. Do people remember the movie "Disclosure" with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas and the e-mails Douglas character received, telling him he is playing their game and he should play his game. The same situation applies to the democrats, they need to start playing their game and not always only react to the Republican nonsene. Does Biden personally need to play dirty? Well, as we know now, he doesn't have it and that's admirable. But I'm sure there are a lot of people in the background more than willing to do the ugly. Has anyone read the book "Primary Colors" or watched the movie? Or maybe they should ask the people this was based on. They may have some ideas. 

People are saying, there is a risk a new candidate would lose to Trump. I don't see that. The situation is almost like 2020. Sane People simply don't want Trump. Therefore Democrats and most Independent will be easily swayed to a "presentable" Democratic candidate. In the end, it is about the few swing states anyway. The only problem I see is Kamala Harris. I did not see her step up and she is unfortunately to involved in the border issue, which appears to be one of the pressing issues this time. But I'm not sure. 

And credible 'word' is team Trump is actually already in a state of be careful what you wish for. As in they know if Biden is replaced w/ a consensus moderate, vibrant, charismatic, youthful enough, energetic, fiery, established/ known brand absolutely could spell trouble for THEM. 

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

43 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

It is terrifying and shocking.  I did not watch the debate as was working and I honestly don't want to.  I know Biden is old, fragile and shaky and don't need any debate to tell me that.  However,  the fact that people still are going to vote for a man as disgusting as Trump and turn a blind eye to his deranged followers with his support storming Parliament and not accepting the election results, his selections for the Supreme court judges who have overturned Roe V Wade thus taking away women's rights and the conspiracy loving ultra right nutjobs who are in the Republican party is even more frightening.  The fact he lies constantly and continues to do so is also chilling.  

Both the GOP and the Democrats should have a different leader.  The Democrats should have a young, eloquent and vital leader and the GOP should never have let Trump run again.  If Trump gets in again, I am afraid for the world.  Just listening to his comments already about what he will do if re-elected is awful.  I hope that women can see already what he has done and the fact that their rights have been taken away from them,  will see them reject the GOP entirely.  Democracy could be a thing of the past for the USA if he gets in again and that should frighten Americans a lot as democracy is something they cherish.  

THIS. With what the world saw last night with Biden aint NO way it's absolutely not a deterrent/voter suppressant. WHAT is an average person, non critical thinking, low info voter (GP) who saw and heard him gonna be 'fired' up *for!? Only semi shot atp now is a def com power move to the whole ticket.  

[KalamazooJay]

45 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

The situation is frustrating and unfortunately a sign of our times. It seems very obvious too me that Biden is a maker, is getting the job done. Unfortunately he is not able to sell his achievements to the public, he is bad self-marketer. I say it's frustrating because I have seen this many times in my professional life. So many times I have seen people being hired because of the way they presented themselves in job interviews, talking all the great things they could bring to the company, their extensive knowledge. More often then not, they turned out to be utterly useless and couldn't get there tasks done or only with mediocre results. I am sure, the quiet ones that didn't get the job would have excelled. 

Biden can't hide his age or doesn't even tries to and is therefore giving a desastrous impression, even if his track record so far is a pretty great one. On MSNBC they explained the problem and said that others were simply better in hiding their issues, which is essential in US politics because US politics is basically a big show and what Americans actually seek for is a Captain America. Let's talk FDR, arguably the greatest president the US had, did voters ever see him in a  wheelchair? No. Would they have voted for him a third time if they knew he would not be alive a year later. JFK, another great one. Hiding his physical issues by drugging himself. Ronald Reagan, a favorite of the Republicans, from my perspective one of the worst ones considering he destroyed the American middle class, just like Thatcher did in the UK by deindustrializing her country. He was suffering from Alzheimers during his second term. He was an actor and therefore able to be in character and overplay the issues. If only Biden was a better pretender, we wouldn't be in this situation. 

And let's not forget that they didn't have a 24 hour news cycle, social media, and the kind of media scrutiny that Presidents now have to contend with. Things may have been different had that been the case. But even that their worst, Biden has appeared quite feeble and frail and confused for the last couple years especially. I mean, just look back at the debate with Trump from FOUR YEARS AGO. It's a totally different person up there.

So the frustrating part is the fact that there are people around him who are keenly aware of whatever cognitive or physical decline he has (and please, I don't want anyone to tell me there aren't some serious issues here. I have my own eyes) that CONTINUE to prop his old bones up. I've been screaming from the rooftops to my more progressive friends that he ONLY WON by a combined total of like 55,000 votes across three states - Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia. That's it. It won't take much to convince those 55k people to swing back the other way. He never won with a mandate, he barely won a majority, he barely won the electoral college, and he barley even won the damn primary. So it's just beyond compression that this party looked at him and said - yeah, that's our guy this time. This boils down to power, ego, and arrogance in Biden's own circle. Period.  

Democrats have to take a hard, cold look in the mirror right now or risk losing it all - the Senate, the House, and the Presidency - to a party that has become dangerously unhinged. And if they don't make the decision to replace him, they deserve the landslide loss that's on the horizon. 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

2 minutes ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

And credible 'word' already is team Trump is actually in a state of be careful what you wish for. As in they know if Biden is replaced w/ a consensus moderate, vibrant, charismatic, youthful enough, energetic, fiery, established/ known brand absolutely could spell trouble for THEM. 

I do think at this point, it should be all in. Democrats should not only seek the presidency, they should seek for majorities in the house and the senate. If they can achieve this, they may finally have a chance to get things done: translation: to clean the shit up, that is US politics. Make the right to have an abortion a federal law, extend the number of seats of the Supreme Court and fill it up with liberal judges to make sure human rights are respected in the future. Unfortunately the threshold to change the constitution seems too high (a two third majority in the house?) 

[Kilt]

I don't understand why the Dems keep pushing for Biden. It looks like sabotage to me or someone in the Dems camp is pulling the strings to sabotage the entire party

[Confessit]

35 minutes ago, Kilt said:

I don't understand why the Dems keep pushing for Biden. It looks like sabotage to me or someone in the Dems camp is pulling the strings to sabotage the entire party

It’s utter madness.

[GOD]

6 hours ago, Confessit said:

And that’s the scariest part 

I was being sarcastic 

[Confessit]

4 minutes ago, GOD said:

I was being sarcastic 

So was I 

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

So... what Im seeing as the day goes on & things are trending Dims (yet again) back to willing to ride off the cliff Thelma & Louise style for  this f'ng dunce aren't they. Lol And likely get crushed in Nov.?!! 

Ya, WHO is truly controlling all this shiate? Day started off w/ apparent bursts of reality & sanity on a no brainer resolution. I thought only Maga had the mafia thug like machinery? 

But...because Biden was a bit less of a walking corpse & coherent (barely) kept it together in North Carolina he's 'back' lmao.

 

[Camacho]

[sotos8]

POLITICS

New York Times editorial board urges Biden to drop out of presidential race

PUBLISHED FRI, JUN 28 20246:30 PM EDTUPDATED 18 MIN AGO

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/28/new-york-times-editorial-board-urges-biden-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race.html