zephyralexxx Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 4 minutes ago, sotos8 said: paid to do what exactly? To campaign against Trump. Saying that Biden should drop the race means someone stronger should compete against Trump, otherwise Trump is the winner for the 2nd time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyralexxx Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Biden pays Clooney, so Clooney writes that Biden should step aside? Which means Biden is sabotaging himself? That does not sound convincing, does it. And Clooney doesn't need that money. He is worth around 500 million dollars. Biden is not sabotaging himself. He's just a marionette doing and saying what others want. After this debate everyone saw how incapable he is for another run. At this point it's all about choosing someone stronger to defeat Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Geezus this constant 24/7 Biden stumble, bumble etc...watch in the media is insufferable and UN sustainable. Fact he simply didn't do as god awful at that press conference last night now some Blue Maga fools ranting on places like X saying 'Riding W. Biden'!, 'Dark Brandon is back'! lmao etc....The delusional, denial & offensive gaslighting. We (Dems/Independents) are NOT a cult like Maga. Split second if/when (& MUST be very soon..like in a week or 2 max) Dems simply put in ANY competent, coherent, charismatic, crisp, center left, under 60 candidate they put Trump away. I'm still hoping (& would understand) if his team is simply waiting for Nato to end and (esp. Trumps convention & VP pick selection)! If that's their strategy would be a logical and good one. If not, Biden gets crushed. Not people voting for Trump but people not coming out for Biden. Trump mob...every one of them WILL come out hard for him in November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 What was that last appearance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 How embarrassing that was? To introduce Zelenskyy as Putin... He's not doing anything to help his own campaign nowadays... But we know it is just age... If the DEMS will not come up with someone stronger, why not someone who is a stronger VP support than Kamala that would convince them to vote for Biden anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, mtzlplk said: How embarrassing that was? To introduce Zelenskyy as Putin... He's not doing anything to help his own campaign nowadays... But we know it is just age... If the DEMS will not come up with someone stronger, why not someone who is a stronger VP support than Kamala that would convince them to vote for Biden anyways? He’s just getting the simplest things wrong time and time again. But it appears he is going to hang on all the way until the inevitable defeat in November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Skies Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 My Dad is almost the same age as Biden and still thinks he is going to win. At the same the only real socialization he does is rant and rave to me or more like wine and go to his sister's house to walk her dog. Whether it's my dad, Trump, Biden, Bobby D. etc..... not so much all the time but old guys just get like so set in their ways and are like super dense. I used to feel strongly about more than a two party political system in this country but I'm leaning more and more strongly these days to age restrictions on jobs like President. That and no more of this Supreme Justices for life shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiganstarlet Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 minutes ago, Blue Skies said: I used to feel strongly about more than a two party political system in this country but I'm leaning more and more strongly these days to age restrictions on jobs like President. That and no more of this Supreme Justices for life shit. Why does it have to be either or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Skies Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 minutes ago, cardiganstarlet said: Why does it have to be either or? I'm not feeling RFK Jr much either so that has a bit to do with it. My Dad in real life and Biden & Trump all over the news I suppose I feel the whole age thing more directly and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Shots fired at Trump at campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He walked away and left the rally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 37 minutes ago, peter said: Shots fired at Trump at campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He walked away and left the rally. I’ve seen footage of him with blood down his face. Something hit him not a bullet but something happened on that podium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dcbyebyebaby Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 This will only help republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 8 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said: This will only help republicans. I fully agree. I mean I hope he’s okay it’s total wrong an act of violence like that towards anybody even Trump. But this will whip up even more support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wade Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Whilst I don't agree with his politics and I think the man is an idiot he doesn't deserve that. The fact that someone has either tried to kill him or scare him will only help his cause. The republican party will now use this to their advantage to gain sympathy from the American public. In all honesty I'm surprised that nobody has attempted to take a pot shot at him before now,as he's obviously a very polarising figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dcbyebyebaby Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 I hate to be conspiracy theorist but could it have been orchestrated by republicans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Just now, Paul Wade said: Whilst I don't agree with his politics and I think the man is an idiot he doesn't deserve that. The fact that someone has either tried to kill him or scare him will only help his cause. The republican party will now use this to their advantage to gain sympathy from the American public. It appears to me from seeing the footage something was fired at his head perhaps a Bebe gun and that caused the blood. This is seriously terrifying because if that was a bullet. He would be dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 17 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said: I hate to be conspiracy theorist but could it have been orchestrated by republicans... I doubt it. Trumps security have shot and killed the attacker ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 There’s no way it’s staged. Someones been killed in the crowd as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 So perhaps it's time to rethink gun control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, MadFan said: So perhaps it's time to rethink gun control? They never ever learn. I think it’s too embedded into American culture having arms in your house and defending yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said: I hate to be conspiracy theorist but could it have been orchestrated by republicans... Well, MAGA has played the game of conspiracies way too long. Deserves them and Trump right if people now make up their own ones regarding that incident. And I'm sure there are several Hollywood movies or TV series that have exactly this kind of scenario. So the idea that this is all a big show, is not too far off. But I am sure Democrats will not entertain the idea because they still think "going high" is the way to go. If you are too "fine" to do the nasty yourselves, let other people do it. And isn't the timing quite convenient? People were starting to pay attention to Project 2025. A plan and the people behind it he claimed to have no knowledge of. Which of course is just another lie. This plan was getting huge traction. Therefore a distraction was really needed. Sorry, I have no sympathy. He had it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 14 minutes ago, Confessit said: There’s no way it’s staged. Someones been killed in the crowd as well. You really think anyone who wants to get into power to turn a country into a dictatorship, cares about normal citizens to get killed in staging such event? In fact, it is almost neccessary to make this even more believable. Those are not "normal" people. Keep in mind, we are talking about a country that does not care about thousands of children killed by gun violence. The person killed, is collateral damage. Are you watching TV? MAGA is already comparing TRUMP to JFK. So the story unfolds just as it is suppposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Wait? Did I hear that correctly? On CNN the PA Senate Candidate, David McCormick, said he was supposed to go on stage right before the shooting and was suddenly told to wait a few minutes? Those events are usually planned by the minute. A change of schedule appears suspiscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: You really think anyone who wants to get into power to turn a country into a dictatorship, cares about normal citizens to get killed in staging such event? In fact, it is almost neccessary to make this even more believable. Those are not "normal" people. Keep in mind, we are talking about a country that does not care about thousands of children killed by gun violence. The person killed, is collateral damage. Are you watching TV? MAGA is already comparing TRUMP to JFK. So the story unfolds just as it is suppposed to be. I totally accept what you’re saying in terms of innocent people being collateral damage in general terms. But I find it hard to believe Trump and his people have gone to the extent of staging an assassination attempt and agreed to kill people in the crowd as part of it….to make it look believable It just doesn’t sit so well with me. I might be wrong totally but I find it hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Confessit said: I totally accept what you’re saying in terms of innocent people being collateral damage in general terms. But I find it hard to believe Trump and his people have gone to the extent of staging an assassination attempt and agreed to kill people in the crowd as part of it….to make it look believable It just doesn’t sit so well with me. I might be wrong totally but I find it hard to believe. Again, they want to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship. They only care about themselves. They are the very same people that kill women by denying them medical help if there are complications during their pregnancies. They don't care about children being killed because they think gun control is devils work or communism. The list goes on. At this point and considering who we are talking about, a conspiracy is more likely than not. As far as I understood, the shooter was shooting from a roof of a warehouse or something. If so, how was that even possible? There are security protocols in place and you can be sure that such places are usually sealed off because they provide an unobstructed firing line. Did the Secret Service made a mistake? And the mistake did happen exactly when assasination attempt was supposed to happen? Perfect timing I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Fuck CNN. They once again let this asshole Scott Jennings get away with his nonsense. He is blaming democrats. They have created the violent rethoric because there are people that say, Trump wants to end democracy (which should be an established fact by now.) Where were Republicans raising concerns when this guy tried to killed Nancy Pelosi (who wasn't home) and beat up her husband. And what does CNN anchors do? "We hear you Scott". CNN and Democrats still don't get it. MAGA is expecting from you that you would never go as low as them. You are being played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt420 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Where were Republicans raising concerns when this guy tried to killed Nancy Pelosi They were busy trying to make people believe that the guy was Paul Pelosi's lover....among many other wild conspiracies.....and they constantly made jokes about it and not once showed any empathy for the situation. Funny they want to blame Biden and Democrats when they're the ones that created this hostile environment to begin with. Something like this was bound to happen eventually. Remember when a "death threat" used to be a big deal? Now, both sides of the aisle get them so frequently nobody bats an eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 29 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Again, they want to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship. They only care about themselves. They are the very same people that kill women by denying them medical help if there are complications during their pregnancies. They don't care about children being killed because they think gun control is devils work or communism. The list goes on. At this point and considering who we are talking about, a conspiracy is more likely than not. As far as I understood, the shooter was shooting from a roof of a warehouse or something. If so, how was that even possible? There are security protocols in place and you can be sure that such places are usually sealed off because they provide an unobstructed firing line. Did the Secret Service made a mistake? And the mistake did happen exactly when assasination attempt was supposed to happen? Perfect timing I guess. Perhaps so. But Trump got shot in the ear and was very obviously hurt. If it was to be staged I think they would of missed and it would still of done the job in causing the after math. I don’t think Trump and his team would of agreed to Trump himself getting shot. That would be far to dangerous and it could of gone very wrong and seriously hurt him or even killed him. I just don’t believe it’s been staged I think it’s real there’s plenty of people willing to do this to Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 All I have to say at this point: "Thoughts and Prayers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, Confessit said: But Trump got shot in the ear and was very obviously hurt. He claims a bullet hit his ear. This is already questioned. If anything he was rather hit by ricochet or fragments. If a bullet had hit his ear, the wounds would look quite different. Also, from what can be seen on TV is not neccessarily what happened. For instance, you can see he touches his cap, his ear when the shots are fired. Before he ducks down for cover you can see the hand he touched his cap, his ear with. What you don't see is blood on the hand which is strange because ears are heavily vascularized, which means there should be lots of blood. At this point nothing should be taken at face value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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