Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 5 hours ago, Confessit said: I think Harris can give Trump a run for his money. She communicates very well and I welcome the up and coming debates. But I do think Trumps hold is to strong now for it to swing round to a democratic win Ya, but more and more 'something' truly/ORGANICALLY is happening. Dunno if it's so much specifically her (vs just the damn breaking for ANYone but Biden). lol All feels fomo buzz. Ya, she HAS dramatically improved as an orator and campaigner. In just 4 days has basically been doing (and esp. saying) what she's needed to. With careful precision, seriousness, laser focus and subtle ruthlessness towards making THE case against Trump. Every single thing Joe couldn't/wasn't able to do ALL year! lol But remember, she absolutely started off her campaign in 2019 the same way/ same energy to a tee. Then, the more she spoke etc....well, ya lol. And that was Dem primary which is always more partisan! That's kind of my personal mindset and everyone I know. I was absolutely (& still am to whatever degree) concerned about Kamala leading a ticket. Basically ALL her likely VPs I (still) think are more solid TOP of the ticket options lol. BUT there's only room her to grow & polls are showing that. All about *trends and ya vibes. Trump has a very high floor. She's the opposite. Personally, atp, all feels a bit better than pre Biden debate (coin flip) w/ her def. getting heads right now. Maybe ~55/45 Harris w/ the way things are but obv. things still verry fluid & volatile. Plus, I'm more than 50/50 Trump DUMPS Vance! Getting roasted in the press now. He's a Palin/Quayle like disaster. Actually way worse tbh. What if Haley comes in any moment!!?? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I just know trump is regretting the Vance choice now that Kamala is running to be president. if he knew beforehand that Biden would drop out, he probably would've taken someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lolo Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 German media and journalists are being weird about this. The majority of the country is pro Democrats or let’s say they’re anti Trump. The media has been critical about Bidens age or his public appearances, but now that he’s stepped down as a candidate they act more confused and riled up than Trumps HQ. Desperately looking for angles to have a critical take on Kamala. I don’t get it. They are trying so hard to be non biased, they’re almost doing too much. Let’s just say I’m not a fan of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber-Raga Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Lolo said: They are trying so hard to be non biased, they’re almost doing too much. Let’s just say I’m not a fan of it. Sounds like CNN under Zaslav. And no, I’m not a fan either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 7/24/2024 at 3:06 PM, Raider of the lost Ark said: I am so grateful that Europe had the period of enlightment and religion became a less defining thing in peoples lifes. The human came forward and God had to step in the background or disappear. People understood that the development of a society and ones own development should not be defined by or depend on a higher power. A realization that brought immense progress in all kinds of life. Today in Europe, even those who consider themselves religious, mostly Christians (Catholic and Protestant) do not have religion as the centre of their lifes and most definitely take everything the church says with a grain of salt. Afterall, the history of Christianity in Europe is filled with violence and hate. Especially the organized religion has shown to be on the wrong side of history over and over again. At this point, in Europe more people visit churches for the architecture and great acoustics but less for religious activities. In Germany, the day the most people go to church is Christmas Eve. And most people go merely for the "show", the songs, the nice decoration. The only thing the Church has been really good at, are the arts. This I can acknowledge. Unfortunately Europe and EU have similar to USA problems. Ex Eastern Europe and even Eastern GER is still homophobic, nationalistic and kind of racist… it’s hard to accept it but it is unfortunately true. The problem is not strictly religion, but unfortunately ignorance rules. France was almost ruled by neonazis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 57 minutes ago, elijah said: Unfortunately Europe and EU have similar to USA problems. Ex Eastern Europe and even Eastern GER is still homophobic, nationalistic and kind of racist… it’s hard to accept it but it is unfortunately true. The problem is not strictly religion, but unfortunately ignorance rules. France was almost ruled by neonazis! The difference is that there is a more or less healthy counter movement. I agree, the Eastern European countries have their problems but even there people have had enough. I suppose the sanctions of the EU did help to some point. In Poland they kicked out the right-wing government. In Hungary the opposition is getting stronger. In former East Germany, whenever there are right-wing or even neo-nazi events, there are demonstrations from the left, incl. Antifa (I always roll my eyes when U.S. politicians use this term) that outnumber the right wingers. Recently some from guy from the AfD in a small town said something disgusting about LGBTQ+. And what happened? This town had its first Pride with people from all over Germany participating. Is there a chance the AfD might become the strongest party in some former East German state. Yes. But they will be far away from a majority and since no other party will form a coalition with them, they will not get in power to govern such state. The risks compared to the U.S, are relatively low. In addition, I am sure, some clown like Trump would never have a chance in Europe. The closest we got is Boris Johnson and Victor Orban. But they are far away from the crazy and dangerous that Trump is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: The difference is that there is a more or less healthy counter movement. I agree, the Eastern European countries have their problems but even there people have had enough. I suppose the sanctions of the EU did help to some point. In Poland they kicked out the right-wing government. In Hungary the opposition is getting stronger. In former East Germany, whenever there are right-wing or even neo-nazi events, there are demonstrations from the left, incl. Antifa (I always roll my eyes when U.S. politicians use this term) that outnumber the right wingers. Recently some from guy from the AfD in a small town said something disgusting about LGBTQ+. And what happened? This town had its first Pride with people from all over Germany participating. Is there a chance the AfD might become the strongest party in some former East German state. Yes. But they will be far away from a majority and since no other party will form a coalition with them, they will not get in power to govern such state. The risks compared to the U.S, are relatively low. In addition, I am sure, some clown like Trump would never have a chance in Europe. The closest we got is Boris Johnson and Victor Orban. But they are far away from the crazy and dangerous that Trump is. Thanks god you are right. My post was just a reminder that there is a divide in Europe too, cleverly exploited by Russia. Putin feeds the Nazis and there are two parties of them in the EU Parliament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, elijah said: Thanks god you are right. My post was just a reminder that there is a divide in Europe too, cleverly exploited by Russia. Putin feeds the Nazis and there are two parties of them in the EU Parliament THIS. And Russia is doing this for many years already. It's all about dividing the society. I'm so grateful for the journalists that uncover this regularly. Of course, all the right wingers, the AfD and Marine Le Pen have always denied being in bed with Russia. Yeah, right. And of course did the Kremlin interfere with elections in 2016 (and most likely in 2020) in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 5 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: incl. Antifa (I always roll my eyes when U.S. politicians use this term) lol I know! They should come to Berlin or Hamburg to touch some fucking grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Lolo said: lol I know! They should come to Berlin or Hamburg to touch some fucking grass. I suggest Kreuzberg on the 1st of May. Well, it's not what it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 ! And yet there are still people who believe Project 2025 is a scare tactic that won't ever come to fruition. And worse still, left-leaning people who want to sit this one out because there's not a unicorn candidate on the Democratic ticket. Open your eyes people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raider of the lost Ark Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Dare I say, that Obama endorsement telephone call was kinda cringe? Also, and I don't know what it is, something rubs me the wrong way with the Obamas in recent years. The vibes they give are weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Women who think misogynistic idiots like Trump and Vance represent them are ignoring the signs massively. I am hopeful that women will vote against them in droves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 20 hours ago, Lolo said: German media and journalists are being weird about this. The majority of the country is pro Democrats or let’s say they’re anti Trump. The media has been critical about Bidens age or his public appearances, but now that he’s stepped down as a candidate they act more confused and riled up than Trumps HQ. Desperately looking for angles to have a critical take on Kamala. I don’t get it. They are trying so hard to be non biased, they’re almost doing too much. Let’s just say I’m not a fan of it. Yes, the media has shocked me. They are too lenient towards Trump and everything he has done so not to appear biased. We only have to listen to his unhinged dangerous speeches and past actions such as not accepting the election results to see exactly who he is. If someone is spewing dangerous fascist ideas - call them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Jazzy Jan said: Yes, the media has shocked me. They are too lenient towards Trump and everything he has done so not to appear biased. We only have to listen to his unhinged dangerous speeches and past actions such as not accepting the election results to see exactly who he is. If someone is spewing dangerous fascist ideas - call them out. It is truly so annoying! Every morning I watch the news and they have no problem showing Trump at his rallies and all of his supporters, but since it’s quality journalism they never show his fucked up moments, but we know there are so many! Last week, when Biden was still campaigning, they had a picture of him in the Tagesschau (most watched German news broadcast) where his skin looked like it has large yellow spots. Wtf?? It’s sloppy at best. They have been so uncomfortable and highly critical with Joe Biden and all of his missteps because it gave Trump such an advantage. And now they’re suddenly trying to be all 50/50 and balanced. Laughable. Trump is a felon after all. I’m truly disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Dare I say, that Obama endorsement telephone call was kinda cringe? Also, and I don't know what it is, something rubs me the wrong way with the Obamas in recent years. The vibes they give are weird. Apparently Obama didnt want Kamala as the candidate, but then Joe endorsed her, forcing the Obamas into a corner. So it was all through gritted teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Lolo said: It is truly so annoying! Every morning I watch the news and they have no problem showing Trump at his rallies and all of his supporters, but since it’s quality journalism they never show his fucked up moments, but we know there are so many! Last week, when Biden was still campaigning, they had a picture of him in the Tagesschau (most watched German news broadcast) where his skin looked like it has large yellow spots. Wtf?? It’s sloppy at best. They have been so uncomfortable and highly critical with Joe Biden and all of his missteps because it gave Trump such an advantage. And now they’re suddenly trying to be all 50/50 and balanced. Laughable. Trump is a felon after all. I’m truly disappointed. I can only watch tagesschau in einfacher sprache (because my german is terrible) and they are even worse at treating Trump like an ordinary candidate, while they routinely point out that Biden is so old and forgets words and names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 hours ago, MadFan said: ! And yet there are still people who believe Project 2025 is a scare tactic that won't ever come to fruition. And worse still, left-leaning people who want to sit this one out because there's not a unicorn candidate on the Democratic ticket. Open your eyes people! I’m glad he let that slip out. Hope it reaches the people that are still undecided. Which by the way is absolutely bizarre to me. This is not a case of apples or oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorMarques Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 hours ago, MadFan said: ! And yet there are still people who believe Project 2025 is a scare tactic that won't ever come to fruition. And worse still, left-leaning people who want to sit this one out because there's not a unicorn candidate on the Democratic ticket. Open your eyes people! It's wild how leftists prefer to lose democracy than vote in the best candidate, even if that person isn't perfect. The perfect candidate will never exist, so what those people want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 hours ago, Camacho said: Wow that's exactly MY preference in basically that same order lol but would put Kelly a little more neck and neck w/ Shapiro (and Cooper higher than Bashear) who's been kind of cringe during MSM interviews. Has the 'look' but coming across needy and desperate ah for it. Not at all ready for prime time/national stage yet. Ya, MSM has been pretty damn awful NOT making these bright broad daylight fascist/Project 2025 rants from Trump the top of the news every fng day! They're still itching for Biden is too old, the 'messy convention' the Dems did NOT have, Kamala cackle (& already 'starting in' w/ their shit about a brief comment/nod she made about Defund The Police in 2020). Ya, strong credible word is Obama's reeeally wanted Joe OUT (and a full, robust normal-ish primary late 2023/early 2024) at least many, many months ago hence the absolute 'silence' from Michelle when Biden was still & stubbornly in. I GET it now and full agree! The 'call' was awkward ah at best lol. I truly think they're FINE at the min. w/ Kamala but still preferred the primary w/ all the other top tier candidates. Some were saying Obama's didn't wanna look 'all in outta the gate for Kamala' for bad optics against Biden. To a small degree ya but think it's more they didn't agree w/ Biden and esp his inner circle decision to keep running as long as he did. Pulsates from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, VictorMarques said: It's wild how leftists prefer to lose democracy than vote in the best candidate, even if that person isn't perfect. The perfect candidate will never exist, so what those people want? Who’s that best candidate you’re referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Skies Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 5 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Dare I say, that Obama endorsement telephone call was kinda cringe? Also, and I don't know what it is, something rubs me the wrong way with the Obamas in recent years. The vibes they give are weird. The right wing conspiracy people think he held out endorsing her for as long as he did because of $$$. That being said he's not exactly Jimmy Carter post presidency. I mean I guess you can argue more power to him but he's gotten some pretty nice reimbursements from speaking and Netflix deals post presidency. Me personally I lost all respect for him when he had his 60th birthday party with all his celeb pals at Martha's Vineyard right in the middle of a pandemic..... to which pics showed him dancing maskless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 39 minutes ago, GOD said: Who’s that best candidate you’re referring to? So you rather vote Trump than a democrat candidate you don’t like as much as another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorMarques Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, GOD said: Who’s that best candidate you’re referring to? Kamala Harris of course, because she isn't an extremist and is the one who can win. Any other option favours Trump. And with Trump saying out loud that he means to install a dictatorship, there's no doubt about the best candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B. Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 14 hours ago, MadFan said: ! And yet there are still people who believe Project 2025 is a scare tactic that won't ever come to fruition. And worse still, left-leaning people who want to sit this one out because there's not a unicorn candidate on the Democratic ticket. Open your eyes people! This quote perfectly demonstrates again how responsible the media are for letting this criminal monster destroy public space and even worse that they want him to stay as long as possible. How can he mention that he will suspend democracy in the USA if he is elected and it doesn't make the front page of all serious media? This statement is extremely serious, but it does not cause a stir but we have just gone through a month of articles and reports on the slightest error in a sentence made by Biden. Anyone who doesn't understand there is only one possible choice in this election is a dangerous fool who wants to live in a theocracy. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 43 minutes ago, Martin B. said: This quote perfectly demonstrates again how responsible the media are for letting this criminal monster destroy public space and even worse that they want him to stay as long as possible. How can he mention that he will suspend democracy in the USA if he is elected and it doesn't make the front page of all serious media? This statement is extremely serious, but it does not cause a stir but we have just gone through a month of articles and reports on the slightest error in a sentence made by Biden. Anyone who doesn't know there is only one possible choice in this election is a dangerous fool who wants to live in a theocracy. Period. FOR REAL! It's flabbergasting to me. And I think it's been tactically constructed by people smarter than Trump, that if he always says outrageous shit, eventually we'll get to a point where it doesn't make the news anymore. This is far more egregious and horrific than that 'grab 'em by the pussy' remark that the media ran with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B. Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 6 minutes ago, MadFan said: FOR REAL! It's flabbergasting to me. And I think it's been tactically constructed by people smarter than Trump, that if he always says outrageous shit, eventually we'll get to a point where it doesn't make the news anymore. This is far more egregious and horrific than that 'grab 'em by the pussy' remark that the media ran with. It is sad to see a presidential candidate openly threatening to suspend democracy, supporting a group that has released a 900-page manifesto explaining how they are going to turn the country into a theocracy and no one panics, no one cares. 8 years ago, anyone with average intelligence and minimal interest in politics could very well understand that this was his long-term goal. Now, he shouts it out loud and there is still no fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 15 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said: Women who think misogynistic idiots like Trump and Vance represent them are ignoring the signs massively. I am hopeful that women will vote against them in droves. And there's a disturbingly HIGH % of gated community, privileged, suburban submissive Stepford Wife Karen's who'll do *exactly as their Maga Mutt husbands vote. All about their hubby intimidating them w/ 'if U want continued law, order, security & not losing their privilaged life to welfare Queens' MUST vote Trump) Lmao ESP against a 'radical woman of color from San Fran.' omg omg lool. But ANY woman... even most of the so called 'safe white moderate Dems'. They're absolutely a variation of Maga, he's them & cycle keeps repeating. They haven't quit, won't quit & will always come back to HIM. Ya, abusive relationship shiate. But 'it' is absolutely a specific bizarre AF American only predisposition. Can see, smell & feel it all over the place 'who' they are w/out hearing a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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