karbatal Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, promise to try said: I feel really sad for these people.They are killing them and life continues as if their lifes didn´t matter.I know it happens all the time, everywhere, and with different type of people, but for some reason these attackings and bombings...I don´t know, it reminds me of the stories my granmother used to tell me. I hope it finishes fast. I understand what you mean. I felt the same during the Balkan wars. It feels deep and it reminded me too to the Civil War stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This is the only hope to avoid so many deaths. Sadly is a very weak hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The US announced a new round of sanctions targeting Russian banks, oligarchs and high-tech sectors, Biden said. The US and its allies will block assets of four large Russian banks, impose export controls and sanction oligarchs. https://apnews.com/article/biden-putin-russia-sanctions-e7cf432771171840f7ed70542b891a6e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dollhouse Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, LSD said: Bravo! So brave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 watch out sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jazzy Jan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 hours ago, CzarnaWisnia said: I'm not saying Ukraine should be excluded from discussing the possibility of being a neutral country, but for that to happen at all it needs to not be used by others as a proxy to exert power. Ukraine should first try to solve the civil war that's been going on on its territory for years. As for the military base, the Sebastopol naval base is roughly 1500 km from Moscow. In 1962, Russia placed missiles in Cuba. That was roughly the same distance from Washington DC. The US found that absolutely unacceptable, therefore the crisis that followed. Ukraine has the right to live how they want. They are their own country and Russia has no right to dictate anything to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: Ukraine has the right to live how they want. They are their own country and Russia has no right to dictate anything to them. Obviously. It also has the right to be free from US interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Junior said: Putin is a power hungry dictator. If people can’t see the resemblance to Hitler then we have not learned anything from history. He was never nipped in the bud so to speak when he cruelly and devastatingly took over countries around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, CzarnaWisnia said: Obviously. It also has the right to be free from US interference. Again, you are always blaming USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Jazzy Jan said: Again, you are always blaming USA. Again, you always being blind to the US's involvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: Again, you are always blaming USA. Broken record When, clearly, this situation has been condemned by almost every country on this planet, this is very laughable to still bring it to USA once again. But hey! Are you surprised? Same rhetoric from him since he posts on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Can’t wait to read that next article published by the most obscure newspaper he can find on the net, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex92 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said: Again, you always being blind to the US's involvement. What is their involvment? They are part of UN and NATO, so they are sanctioning russia and send troops to the borders of NATO countries. Just as GB, Germany, France... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, lex92 said: What is their involvment? They are part of UN and NATO, so they are sanctioning russia and send troops to the borders of NATO countries. Just as GB, Germany, France... They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex92 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nessie said: They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least. And? It's war. Ukraine needs to defend itself. Stupid enough that Germany once again in its moral bubble refuses to send weapons. People in Ukraine don't feel supported by Germany. Same with Swift. Germany was the state to veto sanctioning Russia by excluding Russia from Swift-System, because they fear that the restrictions would be too hard for Germany. My god, they have to wake up. This is a war against the whole western order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nessie said: They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least. Do you really believe all the shit you post on this forum? Just asking because every time I always think you’re joking. Fuel to the fire? It’s David against Goliath. If you don’t get that, I mean, where should we start to enlighten your lantern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, runa said: Do you really believe all the shit you post on this forum? Just asking because every time I always think you’re joking. Fuel to the fire? It’s David against Goliath. If you don’t get that, I mean, where should we start to enlighten your lantern? Should i even care to respond to you in the same manner that you address me and others on this thread? I guess not. You are an uneducated troll that just don’t deserve a proper response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, lex92 said: And? It's war. Ukraine needs to defend itself. Stupid enough that Germany once again in its moral bubble refuses to send weapons. People in Ukraine don't feel supported by Germany. Same with Swift. Germany was the state to veto sanctioning Russia by excluding Russia from Swift-System, because they fear that the restrictions would be too hard for Germany. My god, they have to wake up. This is a war against the whole western order. If you throw weapons to this country that is waging a civil war you can bet that these weapons are being deployed in the eastern Ukraine to retake the separatists regions by force instead of self defense. 8 years of civil war, 13,000 people dead, most civilians, and not a single word in the West. Do you know what the Minsk agreement signed by Ukraine underlined? That those rebel regions were supposed to be granted authonomy. And what Kiev did? Sent neo nazis thugs to shell the rebel cities. That is what these weapons are being used for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Putin must be eliminated after all this. NATO ain't no saints but this man wants to do what Hitler wanted to do and there's no way he should go unscathed. He wants to go down in history and he will. Not like Stalin or Franco from old in their deathbeds but like Hitler or Mussolini. I wish it's the later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Not saying it's right, but ya'll mad at Russia for doing what the US and its loser friends do every day in every country in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudet Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Spy on spy - tense exchange a few days ago between the head of spy services and Putin during a security meeting about the Russian-controlled territories in east Ukraine. Head of spy nervously stuttering when questioned by his boss: either a great bluffer being a spy after all, or he clearly knows things about Putin that we don't and what he is capable of doing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, ULIZOS said: Not saying it's right, but ya'll mad at Russia for doing what the US and its loser friends do every day in every country in the world Here is the list: 1948-1960 - Italy1949 Syria1949--1953 Albania1953 Iran1954 Guatemala1957-1958 Indonesia1959+ Cuba, Cambodia1960 Congo1961 Dominican1963 Vietnam1964 Brazil1965-66 Indonesia1971 Bolivia1970-73 Chile, Irak1976 Argentine1979 Salvador, Lebanon1979-89 Afghanistan1980-82 Angola1983 Grenada1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia1989 Panama1989 Chad1990-91 Irak I1993 Somalia1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)2001 Afghanistan2003 Irak II2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 2009 Colombia2011 Lybia2013-14 ISIS2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani2021 Mozambique And more to come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 After a video of an elected representative of the Socialist Progressive party of Ukraine and an interview with a University of Chicago awarded professor of political science who has thorough knowledge and expertise on this subject, here's some more documentation from a totally obscure and not credible at all source! #MeSoCrayzee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, ULIZOS said: Not saying it's right, but ya'll mad at Russia for doing what the US and its loser friends do every day in every country in the world Yeah, maybe it's time for the US to get bombed and invaded too. For a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Nessie said: Here is the list: 1948-1960 - Italy1949 Syria1949--1953 Albania1953 Iran1954 Guatemala1957-1958 Indonesia1959+ Cuba, Cambodia1960 Congo1961 Dominican1963 Vietnam1964 Brazil1965-66 Indonesia1971 Bolivia1970-73 Chile, Irak1976 Argentine1979 Salvador, Lebanon1979-89 Afghanistan1980-82 Angola1983 Grenada1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia1989 Panama1892 Chad1990-91 Irak I1993 Somalia1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)2001 Afghanistan2003 Irak II2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 2009 Colombia2011 Lybia2013-14 ISIS2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani2021 Mozambique And more to come! Again, the fact that US bombed a country doesn't excuse Putin bombing Ukraine. Please stay on the subject: Ukraine. As for Maidan riots: I do not think it was caused by US. I think not ratifying EU Association agreement was enough reason for the protests. Ukraine borders several EU states: Ukrainians are seeing that the EU countries are better off than Ukraine since joining EU. Half of Ukraine lives in EU. I d say wanting better economic life is a reason enough for those protests. Were they aided by US/EU? Sure. But I d really wanna see the logic to equate today RU aggression to Maidan protests. Its laughable. I have no time to check your lists, but if the examples are like Maidan protests... Well, its a joke list I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 More commentary from a totally unsafe and obscure and made up source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, Nessie said: Here is the list: 1948-1960 - Italy1949 Syria1949--1953 Albania1953 Iran1954 Guatemala1957-1958 Indonesia1959+ Cuba, Cambodia1960 Congo1961 Dominican1963 Vietnam1964 Brazil1965-66 Indonesia1971 Bolivia1970-73 Chile, Irak1976 Argentine1979 Salvador, Lebanon1979-89 Afghanistan1980-82 Angola1983 Grenada1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia1989 Panama1989 Chad1990-91 Irak I1993 Somalia1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)2001 Afghanistan2003 Irak II2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 2009 Colombia2011 Lybia2013-14 ISIS2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani2021 Mozambique And more to come! The list of war involving Russia since 1948 is longer than that. Who’s trolling now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, elijah said: Again, the fact that US bombed a country doesn't excuse Putin bombing Ukraine. Please stay on the subject: Ukraine. As for Maidan riots: I do not think it was caused by US. I think not ratifying EU Association agreement was enough reason for the protests. Ukraine borders several EU states: Ukrainians are seeing that the EU countries are better off than Ukraine since joining EU. Half of Ukraine lives in EU. I d say wanting better economic life is a reason enough for those protests. Were they aided by US/EU? Sure. But I d really wanna see the logic to equate today RU aggression to Maidan protests. Its laughable. I have no time to check your lists, but if the examples are like Maidan protests... Well, its a joke list I guess? It is no joke to bomb countries, any country, no matter whatever political sphere you are part of. The point is the absolutely hypocrisy of the so called guardians of “freedom” pointing fingers, and a world outcry for the same thing they have been doing to other defenseless countries for the past 70 years. If Putin should legally respond for this agression, should Obama be tried for crimes against humanity for Yemen, Somalia, Lybia, Irak, Afghanistan? Nixon for Vietnam? Carter and Reagan for Iran, Salvador, Nicaragua? Clinton for Yugoslavia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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