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7 hours ago, VogueMusic said:


They forget something very important:

no matter how much they repeat something, no matter if they repeat it over and over, it doesn’t make it true. 

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Donald Trump suggests 2024 presidential bid: 'I'll see you in four years'
President makes comments to Republicans at a White House reception, where video shows dozens of people crammed together without masks

Guardian staff and agencies | Wed 2 Dec 2020 06.03 GMT

Donald Trump has floated the idea of running for president again in 2024 at a holiday reception at the White House on Tuesday evening.

“It’s been an amazing four years,” Trump told the crowd, which included many Republican National Committee members. “We’re trying to do another four years. Otherwise, I’ll see you in four years.”

Trump’s comments appeared to acknowledge that he thought he could have lost the election. While speculation about a presidential run in 2024 has been rife, and many US politics watchers expect him to declare a bid soon, he has not spoken publicly about it before.

The video was streamed live on Facebook by one attendee of the party, Pam Pollard, who is national committee member for the Oklahoma GOP. The footage showed dozens of people crammed into the Cross Hall of the White House state floor, standing closely together. Many seen in the video were not wearing masks. Coughing could be heard.


The Trumps began hosting holiday receptions this week, intent on celebrating a final season before Trump leaves office on 20 January. Trump has not formally conceded, but belatedly allowed the transition to Biden to proceed.

According to social media postings reviewed by The Associated Press, the White House Christmas events have featured large crowds of often maskless attendees gathered indoors – violating the very public health guidance the US government has pressed the nation to follow this holiday season as cases of Covid-19 skyrocketed across the country.

The White House has been the site of at least one suspected Covid-19 super-spreader event, and dozens of the president’s aides, campaign staffers and allies have tested positive in numerous outbreaks. Trump himself was hospitalized for the virus in October, and the first lady and two of his sons have tested positive. Numerous others have had to quarantine.

Stephanie Grisham, the first lady’s spokeswoman and chief of staff, had said last month that the White House would be moving forward with events, “while providing the safest environment possible.” She said that would include smaller guest lists, that “masks will be required and available, social distancing encouraged while on the White House grounds, and hand sanitizer stations throughout the State Floor.”

“Attending the parties will be a very personal choice,” she added.

The video of Trump discussing the 2024 election emerged as he threatened to veto the $740bn National Defense Authorization Act unless it included a measure eliminating a federal law protecting tech companies such as Facebook and Twitter.

“If the very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk,” Trump tweeted late on Tuesday.

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects tech companies from liability over content posted by users, and has been under attack from Trump and Republican lawmakers, who have criticized internet platforms’ content moderation decisions and accused them of stifling conservative voices.

The sweeping NDAA sets policy for the Department of Defense. It has been passed for six decades, one of the few major pieces of legislation seen as a “must-pass” because it governs everything from pay raises for the troops to how many aircraft should be purchased or how best to compete with rivals like Russia and China.

Congressional aides expressed skepticism Trump would actually veto the legislation. Democrats won’t agree to repealing 230 because the 24-year-old law provides a vital protection to social media companies.


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12 hours ago, Cyber-Raga said:

Oh well

Precisely. I have zero sympathy and give zero fucks about Rudy testing positive. Not like he won’t get the absolute best medical care that so many that have passed never had the luxury of receiving. 

But here’s what you do get from me Rudy Giuliani.



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5 hours ago, Junior said:

@Jazzy Jan Biden was declared the winner ONE MONTH ago and Republican leadership still won’t acknowledge that Biden won. :wacko:




It is an absolute disgrace. Since the election, I have been recording a lot of CNN shows and watching them back at night. Anderson Cooper, Jake Tapper and out front with Erin. . Always watch Stephen Colbert too for laughs and celebrity interviews 

So fantastic to listen to so many intelligent, decent thoughtful Americans who are shocked by idiotic Trump, his spoilt stupid offspring and  his pathetic enablers. Feel so sorry for them to have him representing them as their President. 

The senior republicans are shameful in how they are crawling to Trump’s racist base and spitting in the face of America’s great democracy.  Putting a narcissist buffoon above their cherished democracy and so called values. They will regret being such snivelling cowards 

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16 hours ago, Barbie said:

He seriously needs to fuck off already. The fact that nobody around him has told him that is really scary.

I agree. This is the most disturbing thing. And so damageable for democracy and election process. Never thought we would assist to something like this in America. This is not RUSSIA, for Christ sake. 

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16 hours ago, Junior said:

All of these stupid lawsuits!:doh:Even his stacked Supreme Court won’t indulge him. None of the judges dissented in this case:chuckle:


There's still hope and a little decency, I guess. 
They might be conservative and "Republican", these judges are still intelligent enough to stay as far away from politics as possible.

This CNN article on the matter is quite interesting.

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So many conspiracy theorists gleefully agreeing with all the lies coming out of Trump’s mouth. I am finding his cult base more frightening now than ever. Senior republicans MUST bite the bullet and completely call him out straight away or else face chaos and the possible destruction of democracy. 

@Junior  everything you predicted months ago about his behaviour after the election has horrifyingly come true. The evil he is doing is getting beyond repair 😟

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17 Republican Attorneys General Back Trump in Far-Fetched Election Lawsuit
The move is an attempt to bolster a baseless legal effort by Texas that seeks to delay certification of the presidential electors in four battleground states that Mr. Trump lost.

By Jeremy W. Peters and Maggie Haberman | Dec. 9, 2020

Despite dozens of judges and courts rejecting challenges to the election, Republican attorneys general in 17 states on Wednesday backed President Trump in his increasingly desperate and audacious legal campaign to reverse the results.

The show of support, in a brief filed with the Supreme Court, represented the latest attempt by Trump loyalists to use the power of public office to come to his aid as he continues to deny the reality of his loss with baseless claims of voter fraud.

The move is an effort to bolster a lawsuit filed on Tuesday by the pro-Trump attorney general in Texas that seeks to delay the certification of the presidential electors in four battleground states the president lost. Mr. Trump has been holding out hope that the Supreme Court will hear the case and ultimately award him a second term. Legal experts are skeptical, however, and have largely dismissed it as a publicity stunt.

Late Tuesday, the president asked Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican, if he would be willing to argue the case, according to a person familiar with their conversation. Mr. Cruz agreed, this person said. And the president has filed a motion with the court to intervene, which would make him a party to the case.

The willingness of so many Republican politicians to publicly involve themselves in a legal campaign to invalidate the ballots of millions of Americans shows how singular a figure Mr. Trump remains in the G.O.P. That these political allies are also elected officials whose jobs involve enforcing laws, including voting rights, underscores the extraordinary nature of the brief to the court. Even in defeat — a reality that a significant number of Republicans refuse to accept, polls show — allegiance to Mr. Trump is viewed as the ticket to higher office.

Mr. Cruz is only the latest possible Republican presidential candidate in 2024 to express support for Mr. Trump’s baseless allegations that the results of the election are tainted and fraudulent — a claim that the president’s lawyers have been unable yet to demonstrate in court. Indeed, in the president’s own motion in the Texas case his lawyer sidestepped the idea that fraud was rampant, writing that reporting in the media about the lack of proof “misses the point” because the larger issue is whether state officials loosened ballot safeguards “so that fraud becomes undetectable.”

Another Republican senator with presidential ambition, Josh Hawley of Missouri, praised the attorney general of his state on Wednesday, Eric Schmitt, after Mr. Schmitt declared on Twitter that “Missouri is in the fight” for Mr. Trump. “Good work,” Mr. Hawley wrote in response. Mr. Schmitt’s office took the lead state on the brief filed with the Supreme Court on behalf of the other 16 states on Wednesday, which argued that “serious concerns relating to election integrity and public confidence in elections” have surfaced.

Republicans familiar with the dynamics in these states — all of which Mr. Trump won — described calculations of ambition and political survival that many party officials are making as they choose to stand behind Mr. Trump. Some fear that if they don’t make it clear they are on the president’s side they could open themselves up to a primary challenge or end any hope for attaining higher office in the near future. Some like Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general who filed the lawsuit, are considering a run for governor.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly tried to pressure Republican state legislators and elections officials — who have the most influence over declaring the formal winner and allocating electoral votes — to deny victory to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. They have largely resisted him. But in a sign of how Mr. Trump continues to interfere with the process, he is hosting several Republican state attorneys general at the White House on Thursday afternoon, according to two people familiar with the plans.

Mr. Paxton’s suit claims that voting irregularities in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin should be investigated by the state legislatures before those states formally certify Mr. Biden the winner on Monday.

After Mr. Paxton filed, Republican attorneys general from across the country rushed to declare themselves on board, posting their support on social media and issuing statements that echoed the legally questionable claim in the Texas brief that its citizens are harmed if elections in other states are not conducted properly.

The 17 states behind the amicus brief represent a majority of the 25 Republican attorneys general across the country, and include Alabama, Florida, Kansas, Missouri, Louisiana and South Dakota. Notably, the two Republican attorneys general in the battleground states that Mr. Trump lost — Arizona and Georgia — are not part of the brief.

Legal experts and a handful of Republican elected officials have questioned the seriousness of the suit, pointing out that states like Texas have no standing to bring a case involving how another state awards its electoral votes.

Senator John Cornyn, a Texas Republican and former attorney general of the state, seemed baffled by the legal maneuver, calling it “extraordinary” and “unprecedented.”

“I’ve never seen something like this, so I don’t know what the Supreme Court’s going to do,” he said in Washington on Wednesday.

And in Georgia, the office of the Republican attorney general, Chris Carr, quickly pushed back against Mr. Paxton’s lawsuit after it was filed. It issued a statement saying that Mr. Paxton was “constitutionally, legally and factually wrong about Georgia.”


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