karbatal Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Today we start vaccination in all EU countries (except stupid Hungarian government who are the Trump residual). What a historical day! And how beautiful is it to watch those elderly people get the shot, so proud? What a wonderful moment is when the human race achieves something working together and funding together, without absurd greed and bigotry. Imagine our world if all we do was achieved in the same way as these vaccines? Happy vaccination day. I hope we all are vaccinated very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 God Bless THE WORLD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 54 minutes ago, karbatal said: Today we start vaccination in all EU countries (except stupid Hungarian government who are the Trump residual). What a historical day! And how beautiful is it to watch those elderly people get the shot, so proud? What a wonderful moment is when the human race achieves something working together and funding together, without absurd greed and bigotry. Imagine our world if all we do was achieved in the same way as these vaccines? Happy vaccination day. I hope we all are vaccinated very soon So happy for EU. Hope soon this illness is forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 UK has given EU the new strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, horn said: UK has given EU the new strain. Actually, there are several strains. And nobody is to blame, the same that only cunts say "China virus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber-Raga Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, karbatal said: Actually, there are several strains. And nobody is to blame, the same that only cunts say "China virus" Preach! I’m so happy that vaccinations in the EU began today. It took a bit longer than in the USA or the UK but the advantage is the deal which could be struck for all its members when it comes to pricing / paying for the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Cyber-Raga said: Preach! I’m so happy that vaccinations in the EU began today. It took a bit longer than in the USA or the UK but the advantage is the deal which could be struck for all its members when it comes to pricing / paying for the vaccine. And it was important for the EU that every member state had the same proportional amount of vaccines with the same infrastructure at the very same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hope everything goes as planned! Things have to get at least a bit better in 2021....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Humberto77rj Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 So happy for you guys. What a shame that here in Brasil we do not have a president, we have an arsehole!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Humberto77rj said: So happy for you guys. What a shame that here in Brasil we do not have a president, we have an arsehole!! Vote that South-America-Dumpster out during the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberto77rj Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, horn said: Vote that South-America-Dumpster out during the next election. I didn't vote for him. This week he just said that he has no plans or "rush" for the vaccine. Anyway, really happy for you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Humberto77rj said: I didn't vote for him. This week he just said that he has no plans or "rush" for the vaccine. Anyway, really happy for you guys! I am very sorry. Even Trump administration has a vaccine program. And it's a shame there's no international pressure to denounce Bolsonaros dangerous politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 There's a lot people still think that COVID-19 is a hoax and nothing but a flu, and the vaccine is a conspiracy etc e.g. people in Pakistan think that there's 5G chip in the vaccine to track them & they will not be able to give birth And the muslim countries are rejecting the vaccine as it's not HALAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, horn said: There's a lot people still think that COVID-19 is a hoax and nothing but a flu, and the vaccine is a conspiracy etc e.g. people in Pakistan think that there's 5G chip in the vaccine to track them & they will not be able to give birth And the muslim countries are rejecting the vaccine as it's not HALAL. Extremists views are everywhere. Fortunately most people don't think that. Including Muslim people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wisconsin Hospital Worker Arrested for Spoiled Vaccine Doses Aurora Medical Center in Grafton said it has fired the employee and referred the matter to the authorities By Todd Richmond • Published December 31, 2020 • Updated 3 hours ago Authorities arrested a suburban Milwaukee pharmacist Thursday suspected of deliberately ruining hundreds of doses of coronavirus vaccine by removing them from refrigeration for two nights. The arrest marks another setback in what has been a slower, messier startto vaccinate Americans than public health officials had expected. Leaders in Wisconsin and other states have been begging the Trump administration for more doses as health care workers and senior citizens line up for the lifesaving vaccine. Police in Grafton, about 20 miles (32 kilometers) north of Milwaukee, said the Advocate Aurora Health pharmacist was arrested on suspicion of reckless endangerment, adulterating a prescription drug and criminal damage to property, all felonies. The pharmacist has been fired and police said in a news release that he was in jail. Police did not identify the pharmacist, saying he has not yet been formally charged. His motive remains unclear. Police said that detectives believe he knew the spoiled doses would be useless and people who received them would mistakenly think they'd been vaccinated when they hadn't. Advocate Aurora Health Care Chief Medical Group Officer Jeff Bahr told reporters during a teleconference Thursday afternoon that the pharmacist deliberately removed 57 vials that held hundreds of doses of the Moderna vaccine from refrigeration at a Grafton medical center overnight on Dec. 24 into Dec. 25, returned them, then left them out again on the night of Dec. 25 into Saturday. The vials contained enough doses to inoculate 570 people. A pharmacy technician discovered the vials outside the refrigerator on Saturday morning. Bahr said the pharmacist initially said that he had removed the vials to access other items in the refrigerator and had inadvertently failed to put them back. The Moderna vaccine is viable for 12 hours outside refrigeration, so workers used the vaccine to inoculate 57 people before discarding the rest. Police said the discarded doses were worth between $8,000 and $11,000. Bahr said health system officials grew more suspicious of the pharmacist as they reviewed the incident. After multiple interviews, the pharmacist acknowledged Wednesday that he removed the vaccine intentionally over the two nights, Bahr said. That means that the doses people received Saturday are all but useless, he said. Moderna has told Aurora that there's no safety concerns, but the hospital system is closely monitoring the people who received the spoiled doses, he said. Bahr declined to comment on the pharmacist's motive. He said the hospital system's security protocols are sound. “This was a situation involving a bad actor," he said, “as opposed to a bad process.” The number of COVID-19 cases in Wisconsin has been rising in recent days after dipping in early December. The state Department of Health Services reported 3,810 newly confirmed cases on Thursday, marking the third straight day of rising daily infections. The state has now seen 481,102 cases. COVID-19 was a factor in 41 more deaths, pushing the state’s overall death toll to 4,859. The survival rate remained unchanged at 99%. A little more than 47,150 people had been vaccinated in Wisconsin as of Monday morning, according to the latest data from the health agency. The state has been allocated 265,575 doses of both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. As of Monday morning, only about 157,000 doses had arrived. Democratic Gov. Tony Evers wrote a letter to President Donald Trump earlier in December asking him to prioritize more doses for Wisconsin due to high case numbers, swamped hospitals and a lack of statewide mitigation mandates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pithy Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 What a nut job. Had he his druthers, that would've been 570 people at increased risk going around erroneously thinking they had immunity. And if they were first responders or front-line health workers? Psychotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Must be a Dumpster supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Nurse tests positive for COVID-19 week after getting vaccine; experts remind shot needs time to work By: Natalie Dreier, Cox Media Group National Content Desk | Updated: December 30, 2020 - 8:36 AM SAN DIEGO — An emergency room nurse said he has tested positive for COVID-19 despite getting the coronavirus vaccine. But experts say just because people are getting the vaccine, it doesn’t provide protection against the virus immediately and that patients’ bodies need time to develop antibodies. The nurse, identified as Matthew W., said he got the vaccine on Dec. 18. His arm was sore from the injection but he had no other side effects. On Dec. 24 he got sick, developing chills, muscle aches and fatigue. He had worked a shift in a COVID-19 unit at one of the two hospitals he serves. On Dec. 26 the 45-year-old nurse tested positive for COVID-19. But an infectious disease expert says he’s not surprised that the nurse developed the illness. “It’s not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed,” Dr. Christian Ramers told KGTV. Ramers, who is part of the clinical advisory panel for the San Diego County’s vaccine rollout, said Matthew could have been infected before getting the vaccine or he could have gotten the virus after the shot. Other doctors agree that the nurse was exposed around the same time as receiving the vaccine. “It’s a sad coincidence that if somebody has already been exposed and gotten vaccinated, the vaccine doesn’t work within days. I mean it does work within days but certainly not in less than a week,” Dr. Yvonne Maldonado told KGO. “We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine,” Ramers told KGTV. He told the news station that the vaccine does not give immediate protection, adding that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine gives about 50% protection and that a second dose increases the protection to 95%. The Moderna vaccine gives some protection within two weeks, KGO reported. “You hear health practitioners being very optimistic about it being the beginning of the end, but it’s going to be a slow roll, weeks to months as we roll out the vaccine,” Ramers told KGTV. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that when you get the vaccine you still should wear masks and avoid close contact to prevent the spread of the illness. For more information about the COVID-19 vaccine, the CDC has put together this web page that helps answer questions patients may have. https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/nurse-tests-positive-covid-19-week-after-getting-vaccine-experts-remind-shot-needs-time-work/U5C6HUB7VZCJHEWSFA25GHXXNU/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Kentucky auditor says he tested positive for COVID-19 one day after getting first vaccine dose Sarah Ladd | Louisville Courier Journal 30 Dec 2020 LOUISVILLE, Ky. – Kentucky Auditor Mike Harmon and his wife tested positive for COVID-19, he announced Wednesday "in the spirit of full transparency and accountability." The announcement comes after Harmon received his first vaccination dose against the coronavirus alongside a bipartisan delegation in the Kentucky Capitol Rotunda on Monday. Harmon and his wife have mild symptoms, he said in a statement, "and are taking all necessary steps to self-isolate and follow the recommendations of public health officials and the CDC." He was possibly exposed shortly before or after taking the vaccine, Harmon said. He "immediately" got tested, he said, after his wife was exposed and tested positive Tuesday. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the COVID-19 vaccines being used now do not have the live virus and won't give people the virus. Instead, according to the CDC, the vaccine teaches the body how to fight the virus. Any symptoms are a result of that immunity-building process. It can take weeks for a person's body to build up immunity after getting vaccinated, per the CDC, and "That means it’s possible a person could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or just after vaccination and get sick. This is because the vaccine has not had enough time to provide protection." "My family’s example underscores the need that we continue to advocate for our front-line health workers, first responders, teachers and high-risk individuals to be vaccinated," Harmon said. "While the timing of my positive test comes one day after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine," he said in the statement, "I still have full faith in the vaccine itself, and the need for as many people to receive it as quickly as possible." Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner Ryan Quarles, within minutes of the announcement, tweeted that the auditor "is a friend and a good man with a big heart." "I’m praying he and Lynn have a safe and speedy recovery," Quarles wrote, "so he can get back to following the data for all of us as our Auditor." Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron also sent well wishes on social media. "Makenze and I are praying for a speedy recovery for you, @KyAuditorHarmon, and Lynn," he wrote. Republican Party of Kentucky Chairman Mac Brown also issued a statement on the diagnosis, saying: "We’re grateful for all the hard work and sacrifices of the Harmon family in serving the Commonwealth, and we ask Kentuckians to please join us in praying for Mike & Lynn’s swift recovery.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/30/kentucky-auditor-mike-harmon-covid-19-days-after-vaccine/4088060001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, horn said: Kentucky auditor says he tested positive for COVID-19 one day after getting first vaccine dose It needs 2 doses & time to build up the immunity!!! It helps nothing but making the conspiracy theory more convincing. I believe this Republicunt was infected way before the vaccination 'cos one would not be tested positive for COVID-19 overnight after infection. And why is politician got the shot first? He's no frontliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, horn said: It needs 2 doses & time to build up the immunity!!! BINGO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 When one gets a vaccination, it takes certain amount of time to build up the immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber-Raga Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, VogueMusic said: BINGO. 6 hours ago, horn said: It needs 2 doses & time to build up the immunity!!! It helps nothing but making the conspiracy theory more convincing. Absolutely. It needs two doses and at least eights after the second vaccination for the immunization to kick in. Hope people are not too stupid to feel invincible after getting one shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkOfMe Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I received my first dose of the vaccine this morning. Going for my second in February 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 8:52 AM, horn said: Nurse tests positive for COVID-19 week after getting vaccine; experts remind shot needs time to work By: Natalie Dreier, Cox Media Group National Content Desk | Updated: December 30, 2020 - 8:36 AM SAN DIEGO — An emergency room nurse said he has tested positive for COVID-19 despite getting the coronavirus vaccine. But experts say just because people are getting the vaccine, it doesn’t provide protection against the virus immediately and that patients’ bodies need time to develop antibodies. The nurse, identified as Matthew W., said he got the vaccine on Dec. 18. His arm was sore from the injection but he had no other side effects. On Dec. 24 he got sick, developing chills, muscle aches and fatigue. He had worked a shift in a COVID-19 unit at one of the two hospitals he serves. On Dec. 26 the 45-year-old nurse tested positive for COVID-19. But an infectious disease expert says he’s not surprised that the nurse developed the illness. “It’s not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed,” Dr. Christian Ramers told KGTV. Ramers, who is part of the clinical advisory panel for the San Diego County’s vaccine rollout, said Matthew could have been infected before getting the vaccine or he could have gotten the virus after the shot. Other doctors agree that the nurse was exposed around the same time as receiving the vaccine. “It’s a sad coincidence that if somebody has already been exposed and gotten vaccinated, the vaccine doesn’t work within days. I mean it does work within days but certainly not in less than a week,” Dr. Yvonne Maldonado told KGO. “We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine,” Ramers told KGTV. He told the news station that the vaccine does not give immediate protection, adding that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine gives about 50% protection and that a second dose increases the protection to 95%. The Moderna vaccine gives some protection within two weeks, KGO reported. “You hear health practitioners being very optimistic about it being the beginning of the end, but it’s going to be a slow roll, weeks to months as we roll out the vaccine,” Ramers told KGTV. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that when you get the vaccine you still should wear masks and avoid close contact to prevent the spread of the illness. For more information about the COVID-19 vaccine, the CDC has put together this web page that helps answer questions patients may have. https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/nurse-tests-positive-covid-19-week-after-getting-vaccine-experts-remind-shot-needs-time-work/U5C6HUB7VZCJHEWSFA25GHXXNU/ What a rubbish article. Please let's not post absurd articles from absurd outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 16 hours ago, ThinkOfMe said: I received my first dose of the vaccine this morning. Going for my second in February 1st. You are lucky It's going EXTREMELY slow in Spain and some EU countries. Once again science success and politicians fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 hours ago, karbatal said: What a rubbish article. Please let's not post absurd articles from absurd outlets. It's not absurd. It's to educate the public how the vaccine works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, horn said: It's not absurd. It's to educate the public how the vaccine works. The headline is click bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, karbatal said: The headline is click bait In what way? Nurse tests positive for COVID-19 week after getting vaccine; experts remind shot needs time to work The later part has already explained the cause. If they didn't put "experts remind shot needs time to work", then it's a valid click bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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