hyper Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 some people complain about single covers, others about ticket prices, re-scheduled dates or superior demo versions ... everyone thinks their concern is legitimate and shared by all. It's not. An ROLers opinion is no more valid than a BIMer's and vice versa. Tolerance is key but I know that's a boring concept ... maybe I'm just too grown up for this place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erotica blu Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Early 90's Madonna is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Bimsters hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 No, a Ray of Lighter is basically what loowee said or jazzyjan described above, someone who is stuck in that era. And Joan of Arcers or those who feel really bad for Madonna, are worried for her a lot, think she's hurt, depressed etc Church. Encyclopedia definition of the joaners lolMoan of arcers is the over arching term for negative nancys and Debbie downers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Yep its all nothing but grilled onion opinions at the end of the day but Ray of Light-Music-American Life are all very similar (&different)..never understood how you could be a HUGE fan of 1 and not the other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick00 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Even with a few annoying ROL people on forums being pushy, the album, videos, and TV performances are some of the best in her career. For me personally, nineties and early 00's has been M at her best and most fascinating even if appreciate all her creative output and enjoy something about all the albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Is Oprah is Ray of Lighter? Oprah is a goddamn waste of oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Every artists (well, almost every artist) has, what old timers call, their "Sgt. Pepper" album. It means the critically best album of their career. I think ROL is considered Madonna's "Sgt. Pepper" album. It's not a slight on any particular Madonna fan. It's just a type of generic critique in general. Who flippin cares? All of her albums rule. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm just happy to consider myself a "Holidayer, True Bluer, Breathlesser, Bedtimer, Musicer, Confessioner, MDNAer, BIMer and everything in between. ...and everything in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I love ROL as much as I love her 80s albums and most of the things she's done anyway. Unfortunately I was born in 83 so I couldn't enjoy those initial M years properly. It doesn't mean new generations of Madonna fans can't discover (as I did over a decade later in my teens), appreciate and in some cases utterly adore what she was doing at any moment in time of her career when they were too young or not even born perhaps to experience it in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJM Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Ray Of Lighters don't mean people who love ROL or became fans in 1998. Ray Of Ligther is used to describe someone who thinks every album she releases should've been/should be ROL 2.0. They freak out every time M works with a major producer or writes "immature" lyrics. They freak out every time M has fun and messes around. They freak out every time M sparks controversy. It's almost like they know nothing about M's career trajectory and hope it's 1998 over and over again. And yes these people deserve to be mocked till the end of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Ray Of Lighters don't mean people who love ROL or became fans in 1998. Ray Of Ligther is used to describe someone who thinks every album she releases should've been/should be ROL 2.0. They freak out every time M works with a major producer or writes "immature" lyrics. They freak out every time M has fun and messes around. They freak out every time M sparks controversy. It's almost like they know nothing about M's career trajectory and hope it's 1998 over and over again. And yes these people deserve to be mocked till the end of time. THIS. THIS. THIS. Plus, I always took it as a tongue-in-cheek term anyway. It's nothing to get upset over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 don't get me wrong. although im in my mid thirties, im a proud BIMster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shan Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Ray of Lighter as a term is kind of needed in a way, sadly. There's a lot of people that just want another Ray of Light and won't accept anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm a "I'm Going Banana-er" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm a "I'm Going Banana-er" yaaassssss!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Ray Of Lighters don't mean people who love ROL or became fans in 1998. Ray Of Ligther is used to describe someone who thinks every album she releases should've been/should be ROL 2.0. They freak out every time M works with a major producer or writes "immature" lyrics. They freak out every time M has fun and messes around. They freak out every time M sparks controversy. It's almost like they know nothing about M's career trajectory and hope it's 1998 over and over again. And yes these people deserve to be mocked till the end of time. Oh I see I'd always assumed it meant you're a loser because you weren't born yet when Madonna was collaborating with Otto We Are The Gods (my jam) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Early 90's Madonna is life Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Oh I see I'd always assumed it meant you're a loser because you weren't born yet when Madonna was collaborating with Otto We Are The Gods (my jam) Actually that's the real meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Will Otto be a Rayofligher or a BIMer? Surely Otto won't be a Moaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Will Otto be a Rayofligher or a BIMer? Surely Otto won't be a Moaner. Is he still alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Actually that's the real meaning Well in that case it just begs to get banished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Where is Otto???? Anyone knows??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 He got rich with those horrible songs and changed his name into Uncle Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 #sohappyIwasborninthe80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Oh I see I'd always assumed it meant you're a loser because you weren't born yet when Madonna was collaborating with Otto We Are The Gods (my jam) that is thr tru meaning no matter how some try to spin the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I dont complain on what shes doing but for me its not because of lyrics or her behavior , I miss her quality control and focus on the music itself Since HC what she released had declined in terms of quality , being mdna an all time low point( the album and dvd , not the tour) and now RH for me seems like an undecided/unfinished project that lacked a real direction by having thousands of producers and writers working on some good and some not so good songs. From ROL to COADF she always followed a clearly directionwith her music , nowadays its not being the focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Quicker than a Ray of Light, it's dying...no one else will be there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt420 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I dont complain on what shes doing but for me its not because of lyrics or her behavior , I miss her quality control and focus on the music itself Since HC what she released had declined in terms of quality , being mdna an all time low point( the album and dvd , not the tour) and now RH for me seems like an undecided/unfinished project that lacked a real direction by having thousands of producers and writers working on some good and some not so good songs. From ROL to COADF she always followed a clearly directionwith her music , nowadays its not being the focus. It sounds more like you simply don't care for her musical direction last few albums, which is fine but that's not indicative of a lack of direction with her music. I'm not sure she has ever created as much music for an album session as she did with RH and there are very clear themes that run through every song. She worked on that album pretty much the whole year of 2014, then she promoted it more than any other album and now she's in rehearsals for her tour that is likely going to take her into Spring 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 It sounds more like you simply don't care for her musical direction last few albums, which is fine but that's not indicative of a lack of direction with her music. I'm not sure she has ever created as much music for an album session as she did with RH and there are very clear themes that run through every song. She worked on that album pretty much the whole year of 2014, then she promoted it more than any other album and now she's in rehearsals for her tour that is likely going to take her into Spring 2016. I wouldnt be posting regulary if I didnt care , i do listen to RH in fact HW is my most played song but i cant listen to all 22(?) songs. Im my opinion we have too many songs that dont have the attention to detail that she always had Also, She worked the whole 2014 on the album with dozens of people songwrites and producers , from pharrel to that natasha kills and spent most of the year trying to find that direction she wanted to go with producers that have no time to create something organic with her, the product she delivered sounds a mix of songs for me thats why we dont even have the credits. Sone good songs, YES but also many fillers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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