The vaccine is here 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😄😄😄

[Crux]

11 hours ago, Cyber-Raga said:

Oh no I hope you are feeling better. Which vaccine did you get?

Thanks. I received the Astrazeneca vaccine and I'm pleased to say I'm back to normal now.

Did you get the vaccine yet?

[jonski43]

I've just had mine. When I was driving to the docs Borderline came on the radio and I got such a feeling of hope.

Now just waiting for side effects! 

Friend said that people more likely to get side effects from AZ after first dose whereas for Pfizer is after the second. It will be interesting to see.

[Cyber-Raga]

22 minutes ago, Crux said:

Thanks. I received the Astrazeneca vaccine and I'm pleased to say I'm back to normal now.

Did you get the vaccine yet?

Waiting for vaccines 

I’m waiting 

Can’t you see I’m waiting for vaccines 

Don’t break my trust

 

I hope #soon. I could register for it but still am not eligible to get it now because of the short supply. 
Glad you are feeling better!!

[Crux]

1 hour ago, Cyber-Raga said:

Waiting for vaccines 

I’m waiting 

Can’t you see I’m waiting for vaccines 

Don’t break my trust

 

I hope #soon. I could register for it but still am not eligible to get it now because of the short supply. 
Glad you are feeling better!!

It's really shitty that there's a short supply, but I hope you won't be waiting too long and don't suffer from the side effects.

The only reason I got it at this stage is because I'm a severe Asthmatic - I'm still nervous about getting the second dose but at least Jonski has eased my mind about people being more likely to get side effects from AZ after first dose.

The Waiting reference.

[Creepy Insane Person]

On 1/31/2021 at 1:51 PM, Junior said:

A group of anti-vaxxers temporarily shut down one of the country’s largest COVID vaccination sites.

The maskless protesters gathered outside Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles and got so rowdy that officials had to close the entrance for almost an hour.

They piss me off just as much as the vegan protestors and the earth is flat protestors.

[Creepy Insane Person]

I’m nervous about getting the vaccine because I’m too scared to get a bloodclot. 
 

Maybe I will wait until end of year to get the vaccine. 

[Crux]

How are you feeling now @jonski43 I hope you're ok.

[karbatal]

On 3/19/2021 at 6:12 PM, Crux said:

I'm not sure about anyone else but I had mine yesterday and I can honestly say I have never been so ill in a long time.

Started off with an ache where it was administered, followed by full body aches, cold sweats and a thumping headache 6-7 hours later. I also had a series of temperature changes going from freezing to hot within minutes. It certainly wasn't a "slight fever".  Still have a slight headache 12 hours later, and I have to get the second dose in two weeks time, but I'm kind of dreading it. lol

 

I hope you are feeling better

[jonski43]

3 hours ago, Creepy Insane Person said:

I’m nervous about getting the vaccine because I’m too scared to get a bloodclot. 
 

Maybe I will wait until end of year to get the vaccine. 

You're more likely to get a clot if your get covid and the data says the clots are no more frequent after the vaccine. People will still get ill from other causes after having the vaccine that are unrelated.

45 minutes ago, Crux said:

How are you feeling now @jonski43 I hope you're ok.

Feeling fine so far! Thanks for asking. Took a couple of paracetamol earlier to try and prevent or reduce any effects 

[elijah]

Just had my first Astra shot. I have 37.5 temperature. I took Nimezil for bringing it down.

[Musicinferno]

12 hours ago, jonski43 said:

You're more likely to get a clot if your get covid and the data says the clots are no more frequent after the vaccine. People will still get ill from other causes after having the vaccine that are unrelated.

This is not true. Some young people did get clots and cerebral bleeding after the AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe, and although there are not many cases, young healthy people might reconsider getting this vaccine as they have only a minimal risk of getting severely ill.

Importantly, the „AstraZeneca clots“ are much different from normal clots, as they come with low platelet counts.

 

Here is a very interesting interview with a german specialist for blood diseases if you understand german (or use google translate):

https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2021-03/astrazeneca-thrombose-corona-impfung-nebenwirkung-robert-klamroth
 

 

 

 

[jonski43]

2 hours ago, Musicinferno said:

This is not true. Some young people did get clots and cerebral bleeding after the AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe, and although there are not many cases, young healthy people might reconsider getting this vaccine as they have only a minimal risk of getting severely ill.

Importantly, the „AstraZeneca clots“ are much different from normal clots, as they come with low platelet counts.

 

Here is a very interesting interview with a german specialist for blood diseases if you understand german (or use google translate):

https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2021-03/astrazeneca-thrombose-corona-impfung-nebenwirkung-robert-klamroth
 

 

 

 

Interesting but it's still in a really tiny percentage of people and the results are no different to the Pfizer vaccine. Covid is more likely to cause clotting overall too. I heard one nurse say she's shocked at what it does to the blood of some people.

All this scaremongering will kill way more people who decline the vaccine than who actually get a clot caused by it. 

The EUs handling of this is appalling especially as Pfizer is showing similar results.

[Musicinferno]

27 minutes ago, jonski43 said:

Interesting but it's still in a really tiny percentage of people and the results are no different to the Pfizer vaccine. Covid is more likely to cause clotting overall too. I heard one nurse say she's shocked at what it does to the blood of some people.

All this scaremongering will kill way more people who decline the vaccine than who actually get a clot caused by it. 

The EUs handling of this is appalling especially as Pfizer is showing similar results.

True, it is only a tiny percentage but young healthy people only have a tiny percentage to get seriously ill too.

The results are different to the Pfizer vaccine in terms of the clots which affect the cerebral veins.

Reporting side effects is no scaremongering. 
 

And no need for EU bashing, all the countries decided for themselves to stop the vaccine.

In the end we will see who has handled the pandemic best. Right now, the lately much praised UK is the third worst affected country in the world (worse than the US and Brazil):

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Camacho]

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-biden-covid-vaccinations-200-million-shots-20210325-pza5bnpmxjglxhiy367klziwye-story.html
 

‘We can do it’: Biden vows to administer 200 million COVID shots in first 100 days after meeting first goal 

By CHRIS SOMMERFELDT

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

MAR 25, 2021 AT 2:22 PM

President Biden pledged Thursday that the U.S. will have administered 200 million coronavirus vaccine shots by his 100th day in office, setting what he admitted is an “ambitious” benchmark after blowing past his first goal faster than expected.

Biden, speaking at his first formal press conference as president, noted that his initial goal — getting 100 million shots into arms within his first 100 days — was met last week, “42 days ahead of schedule.”

“Now, today, I’m setting a second goal, and that is we will, by my 100th day in office, have administered 200 million shots in people’s arms,” Biden said, speaking in the East Room of the White House. 

The president, whose administration is pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into accelerating production and distribution of vaccines, acknowledged his new target won’t be easy.

“I know it’s ambitious — twice our original goal,” he said. “But no other country in the world has even come close, not even close to what we are doing. I believe we can do it.”

There are currently three vaccines available in the U.S. — produced by Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson respectively.

The U.S. government is helping beef up production and distribution by providing funding and logistics, much of which is being bankrolled by the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan signed into law by Biden earlier this month.

Biden has previously said he expects there to be enough vaccine supply by May 1 to immunize every American adult.

Upon taking office, Biden vowed that his first priority would be to supercharge U.S. vaccination efforts and deliver economic relief to millions of Americans ravaged by the pandemic.

With the enactment of the American Rescue Plan, Biden has made good on many of those promises, and public health experts say the U.S. is on pace to achieve herd immunity to COVID-19 by this fall.

[Musicinferno]

Covid: 'greed' and capitalism behind vaccine success, Johnson tells MPs
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/23/greed-and-capitalism-behind-jab-success-boris-johnson-tells-mps

 

[swimtoshore]

I had my first vaccination 2 days ago - AstraZeneca

I have quite a sore arm at the injection site and a bit of a headache and a little tired yesterday. Side effects are not much compared to a shingles vaccine I had 2 years ago. I couldn't get out of bed for 2 days after the first shingles shot.....

 

[karbatal]

 

Anyway, the first quarter is completed and Pfizer and AstraZeneca should fulfill the contract. One said that the factory should be renovated. The other that the EU plants were biologically producing less but it was temporary. 

I guess they can't give more stupid excuses? 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

BionTech is fulfilling the contract. They are even overachieving. At least in Germany. Now that the production facility in Marburg is certified, number of doses should increase significantly. 750 million doses per year. 

AstraZeneca? I hope their behaviour will have serious consequences and the EU will sue their asses off. 

[karbatal]

9 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

BionTech is fulfilling the contract. They are even overachieving. At least in Germany. Now that the production facility in Marburg is certified, number of doses should increase significantly. 750 million doses per year. 

AstraZeneca? I hope their behaviour will have serious consequences and the EU will sue their asses off. 

It's dropped it's value in 30%. I hope it goes bankrupt. And I hope we will know someday what really happened. 

 

[karbatal]

And I'm sure Ursula Von Der Leyen is LIVID. The complete humiliation she's suffered  

 

[funkydita]

My dad, in Wales, gets his second dose on Saturday, he had the Pfizer vaccine, as did my brother.  

The rollout seems a little random, my boss had her first last week (we’re the same age but live different boroughs) as has another younger colleague from that borough.  

Another colleague who lives in the same borough as I do, in her early 30s with no underlying conditions, had hers over a month ago. She reckoned a large number of younger people, also with no underlying conditions (according to her straw poll), had been called in at short notice to receive theirs too.  I do wonder if it’s because the borough has the largest proportion of Black people in London and vaccines are being refused, as reported, due to a mistrust of the medical establishment and government. It worries me, my ex is British Jamaican and diabetic and has refused the vaccine, as will his family. There’s nothing I can say to change his mind.

[Elysium]

On 3/21/2021 at 9:33 AM, jonski43 said:

Interesting but it's still in a really tiny percentage of people and the results are no different to the Pfizer vaccine. Covid is more likely to cause clotting overall too. I heard one nurse say she's shocked at what it does to the blood of some people.

All this scaremongering will kill way more people who decline the vaccine than who actually get a clot caused by it. 

The EUs handling of this is appalling especially as Pfizer is showing similar results.

Completely agree - the fear mongering and the conspiracy theories will be the undoing of many. And sad to see sour grapes from the EU. Political competition shouldn't be allowed to hinder public health.

[Raider of the lost Ark]

36 minutes ago, Elysium said:

Completely agree - the fear mongering and the conspiracy theories will be the undoing of many. And sad to see sour grapes from the EU. Political competition shouldn't be allowed to hinder public health.

Are you aware about the scandalous acts of AstraZeneca in the EU? Is the media in the UK reporting on this? BBC World definitely not. They have become a propaganda channel, full stop. Celebrating the great achievements in vaccinating the British public. Achievements on the back of the EU. I'm pretty sure, Boris Johnson made a shady deal with AstraZeneca. Don't you think it is kinda strange that AstraZeneca is able to fulfill the contract with the UK but is cutting deliveries to the EU by two thirds, despite the fact the the EU basically has the very same contract as the UK and even signed the contract one day earlier. How come AstraZeneca is producing tens of million of doses in an un-certified facility in The Netherlands, un-certified by the EU because AstraZeneca never asked for certification. Those millions (approx. 30 million) of doses were hidden in an Italian facilty. AstraZeneca now claims the doses are for Covax and for the EU, when this is the biggest nonsense. The EU cannot use those doses coming from an un-certified facility. I think it is pretty clear those doses were meant for the UK. Those doses are the second shot. Another reason for the oh so great achievements of the UK. Only a minimal amount of people have received their second shot. At some point the whole UK vaccination campaign might break apart when they are not able to get enough doses for a second shot. 

In addition to that, how many doses has the UK exported to the rest of the World? None. The EU? 70 million doses. 

[Cyber-Raga]

23 hours ago, karbatal said:

It's dropped it's value in 30%. I hope it goes bankrupt. And I hope we will know someday what really happened. 

 

Amen. 
 

Oh and in general news, both the USA and the UK have a de facto export stop on doses of any vaccine which was produced in their respective country. Cut to the EU which up until now, of course, have played by the rules,  allowing vaccines which are produced in the EU to leave it (e.g. to Israel).
That’s fine, the world population needs to be vaccinated so that mutation won’t develop immunity to the vaccines. It just pisses me off that nobody outside the EU is talking about this while at the same time celebrating their accomplishments. If the orange cunt (aka Trump) had pulled off something similar the media would have torn him a new one, rightfully so. Biden and Bozo get a pass. Human race really is pre-destined to fail, isn’t it?

[Musicinferno]

Germany suspends AstraZeneca vaccine for under 60 year olds.

31 cases of cerebral vein thrombosis in young people. 9 deaths. This is no scaremongering, this is reality.

https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-berlin-setzt-impfungen-mit-astrazeneca-fuer-menschen-unter-60-jahren-aus-a-b79e99fb-79f7-4ef0-8b0b-f01e1ff10686

 

[Cyber-Raga]

Great. As if the Astra campaign hasn’t been a disaster enough. 

[karbatal]

The level of disinformation everywhere is appalling. UK media is attacking the EU to hide the Brexit disaster. And in the EU the campaign against AstraZeneca is appalling too. How many dangerous or even mortal side effects are in other medicines? Even the European Medicines Agency has said again and again that the risks are minimum compared to the lives that the vaccine saves!!!!

We are in the middle of a continuous political propaganda. 

In the very end people are dying because AstraZeneca sold the vaccines to other countries (it's impossible any other explanation) and the EU (in my opinion Ursula) are destroying the image of that company at the expense of citizens dying. 

That is all my personal opinion with the little information we have and the continuous media noise.

[Musicinferno]

2 hours ago, karbatal said:

The level of disinformation everywhere is appalling. UK media is attacking the EU to hide the Brexit disaster. And in the EU the campaign against AstraZeneca is appalling too. How many dangerous or even mortal side effects are in other medicines? Even the European Medicines Agency has said again and again that the risks are minimum compared to the lives that the vaccine saves!!!!

It was not disinformation when AZ did not provide data for older people in their phase 3 studies. 

It is not disinformation to report serious adverse events of a new drug that weren´t apparent at first because the study sample was too small to detect them.

Of course the benefit for ALL people will be bigger than the risks but if you are young and healthy it might be wise to use a different vaccine. You have to differentiate between younger and older people.

 

I totally agree that we see propaganda on all sides - but these are scientific facts. 
And don ´ t forget that non-EU countries like Canada have limited the use of the vaccine and Switzerland for example did not approve it (like the US).

I dont think that you can say that the EU is deliberately destroying the image of the vaccine.

[Elysium]

 

14 hours ago, karbatal said:

The level of disinformation everywhere is appalling. UK media is attacking the EU to hide the Brexit disaster. And in the EU the campaign against AstraZeneca is appalling too. How many dangerous or even mortal side effects are in other medicines? Even the European Medicines Agency has said again and again that the risks are minimum compared to the lives that the vaccine saves!!!!

We are in the middle of a continuous political propaganda. 

In the very end people are dying because AstraZeneca sold the vaccines to other countries (it's impossible any other explanation) and the EU (in my opinion Ursula) are destroying the image of that company at the expense of citizens dying. 

That is all my personal opinion with the little information we have and the continuous media noise.

Totally agree. And I'll say it again - it has been sour grapes all along from the EU who are resentful of the UK's progress in getting 30 million people out of a 67 million population vaccinated. Not too shabby for a small island. I know people who are getting their appointment dates for the second vaccine booked instantly as soon as the first vaccine is administered (even before) which indicates there is confidence about supply for the second booster vaccine.

[Musicinferno]

16 minutes ago, Elysium said:

 

Totally agree. And I'll say it again - it has been sour grapes all along from the EU who are resentful of the UK's progress in getting 30 million people out of a 67 million population vaccinated. Not too shabby for a small island. I know people who are getting their appointment dates for the second vaccine booked instantly as soon as the first vaccine is administered (even before) which indicates there is confidence about supply for the second booster vaccine.

The EU might resent that they exported 21 million biontech vaccines to the UK when the UK exported nothing. Zero.

But congratulations to your amazing vaccine success! At last you have a reason to say that Brexit was the right decision.

And I will say it again, believe it or not, at least in Germany, NO ONE wanted AZ to fail, in fact, 200 politicians publicly said that they would get the vaccine.