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The debates will decide this election

Trump will become unhinged

its gonna be EPIC!!!

i dont think hes trained well in this department, at all. she will excel.

the thing she would need to watch out for is the marcia clark syndrome. the dumb jury didnt get it. it was too much, too long and DNA wasnt second nature in the media yet.

hillary has to speak a language everyone will understand.

he will go for her jugular. he has nothing to lose.

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Hillary appears to be very calm under pressure and gets her points across. I'm sure she will be prepared for all his attacks. He will probably come across as a bully.

always calm.

i believe she needs to be relateable.

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He doesn't want to lose. That's just wishfull thinking, folks. He's been talking of his presidential run since the 80's.

We shouldn't get distracted.

I was reading that people are concerned that after polls spectacularly missed predicting the Tory landslide and Brexit win in the UK, polls are unreliable and although Trump's support appears to be slipping, it could be misleading as people don't want to admit they would vote for him but will do in the privacy of the polling booth.

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jonski43, on 21 Aug 2016 - 6:25 PM, said:

I was reading that people are concerned that after polls spectacularly missed predicting the Tory landslide and Brexit win in the UK, polls are unreliable and although Trump's support appears to be slipping, it could be misleading as people don't want to admit they would vote for him but will do in the privacy of the polling booth.

That's nonsense. They said the same thing about Obama. That people on phone interviews were just saying they would vote for Obama because they didn't want to sound "racist" but in the booth they would vote for the white guy. Didn't happen. The polls were right.

Polls are RARELY wrong these days, especially when all are taken into account. Sometimes there are rare outliers where things are way off, but that is rare. And trust me. Trump supporters have NO hesitation in letting people know they support Trump.

The only time they were WAY off was when right wing media didn't like the polls showing that Obama would win in 2012 so they decided to do their own "internal poling" with all these extra bells and whistles and swore up and down that the "MAINSTREAM MEDIA!" was getting it all wrong. Well it turns out they were wrong and were suffering from a case of wishful thinking.

That being said Clinton has pulled further ahead in Ohio in a latest poll, but like I also said the electoral map looks so good for her right now she doesn't even need Ohio to win.

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So after a week or so of seeing all of you ejaculate over the sinking ship that is Trump's campaign (supposedly), he's BARELY 5.5 points behind her in the polls

I seriously need to stop believing everything you guys

This little period between the conventions and the first debate will be long forgotten by November

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So after a week or so of seeing all of you ejaculate over the sinking ship that is Trump's campaign (supposedly), he's BARELY 5.5 points behind her in the polls

I seriously need to stop believing everything you guys

This little period between the conventions and the first debate will be long forgotten by November

Heart attack's when President Trump takes office.

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5.5 behind and has basically spent $5 on ads! lol Basically duplicating *exactly what happened during the primaries ESP w/ Jeb! who spent $100-200 million. Even w/ a 5.5 lead or even 10 think about it...WHICH base of voters is gonna get up before dawn and get to those 'rigged polls' basically mob style? :/ Wont happen but almost wish the worst of the wikileaks would leak 'prematurely' in the next week or two confirming she WAS a founder of Isis and has to change her Depends 10x a day so she could get flushed and replaced w/ Biden/Warren! Biden/Warren are like two smashes that never happened (demos of WAOM and RH lol). Dumb Dreadful Demonic Debbie Waserman and her felllow corrupt Hillary skunks are the only reason we're not all getting better.

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LOL

He's well within his rights to tell them both to fuck off. Girl insults him then another tries to play the innocent girl card. Not how it works.

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That's nonsense. They said the same thing about Obama. That people on phone interviews were just saying they would vote for Obama because they didn't want to sound "racist" but in the booth they would vote for the white guy. Didn't happen. The polls were right.

Polls are RARELY wrong these days, especially when all are taken into account. Sometimes there are rare outliers where things are way off, but that is rare. And trust me. Trump supporters have NO hesitation in letting people know they support Trump.

The only time they were WAY off was when right wing media didn't like the polls showing that Obama would win in 2012 so they decided to do their own "internal poling" with all these extra bells and whistles and swore up and down that the "MAINSTREAM MEDIA!" was getting it all wrong. Well it turns out they were wrong and were suffering from a case of wishful thinking.

That being said Clinton has pulled further ahead in Ohio in a latest poll, but like I also said the electoral map looks so good for her right now she doesn't even need Ohio to win.

Oh but '12 election was rigged! '08 was rigged! Didn't you know? If Hillary wins this one then it's rigged too.......:lol: They are already getting their conspiracy theories in order to prepare for the inevitable.

What I can't understand is how Trump winning (as things stand now) would be "legit" in any way? What polls do these people go by?? Five people in Bumfuck, Alabama? Barring Hillary murdering someone on stage during the debates or some MAJOR smoking gun with the Wikileaks between now and Nov, Trump winning would be major fraud. Anyone with even the smallest shred of common sense can see this. I know Hillary is going to win but I want it to be a landslide only to show these fuckers once and for all that the "great" America they crave will never be again. The 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and even early to mid 00's are GONE....FOREVER. This is a different America so either shape up or ship the fuck out!! It's time for the GOP to FINALLY adapt themselves to the reality of America today. Their failure to do so is why we are where we are now. One thing Trump can take pride in is that he's the first TRULY, unfit, incompetent Presidential nominee ever to make it this far. It's not even a matter of simply disagreeing with his non existent "policies", it's a matter of simple competence for the job at hand. I'd suspect even his most hardcore supporters know this deep down.

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Trump is prepping for the debates by watching old clips of Hillary's debates with Obama and Sanders.

TRUMP!!! TRUMP!!! TRUMP!!!

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Kurt420, on 22 Aug 2016 - 07:42 AM, said:

Oh but '12 election was rigged! '08 was rigged! Didn't you know? If Hillary wins this one then it's rigged too....... :lol: They are already getting their conspiracy theories in order to prepare for the inevitable.

What I can't understand is how Trump winning (as things stand now) would be "legit" in any way? What polls do these people go by?? Five people in Bumfuck, Alabama? Barring Hillary murdering someone on stage during the debates or some MAJOR smoking gun with the Wikileaks between now and Nov, Trump winning would be major fraud. Anyone with even the smallest shred of common sense can see this. I know Hillary is going to win but I want it to be a landslide only to show these fuckers once and for all that the "great" America they crave will never be again. The 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and even early to mid 00's are GONE....FOREVER. This is a different America so either shape up or ship the fuck out!! It's time for the GOP to FINALLY adapt themselves to the reality of America today. Their failure to do so is why we are where we are now. One thing Trump can take pride in is that he's the first TRULY, unfit, incompetent Presidential nominee ever to make it this far. It's not even a matter of simply disagreeing with his non existent "policies", it's a matter of simple competence for the job at hand. I'd suspect even his most hardcore supporters know this deep down.

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Trump has cancelled 3 public appearances in swing states. Is he sick? Not enough stamina? Did 49 seconds of handing out play dough exhaust him? Has Giuliani looked up Trump's health history?

He's doing rallies in Texas and Mississippi lol

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What is the Clinton Foundation and why is it controversial?

Every Clinton hater should read this article, it's very interesting! The Clintons and their foundation do a lot of good, and reality is far from what the haters try to depict (money hunger, corruption, "crooked"...).

In more than 70 countries, according to the foundation, it helps 11.5 million people, including 800,000 children, with HIV/AIDS get their medication at 90% lower cost -- more than half the adults and three-quarters of the children getting treatment in the world today.
But it does all kinds of other work as well. For instance, it helps East African farmers get better seeds and fertilizers. It supported Nepal's reconstruction after the 2015 earthquakes. And it has connected more than 500,000 Latin Americans to job training and entrepreneurship opportunities.
Charity Watch gave the Clinton Foundation an A grade, while GuideStar gave it a platinum rating. Daniel Borochoff of Charity Watch noted that in 2014, 87.2% of the foundation's funding went to its programs, "which is really high." The foundation, he said, does "really important, valuable work that saves lives of lots of people."
It's sick to see Trump and others trying to discredit and dismantle that foundation in order to win a few points in the polls...
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^^^ They had a segment about the Clinton foundation on CNN yesterday and they basically said the have looked for stuff and they could not find anything. Some things in relation to her work as the secretary of state can be seen as inappropriate if you want want to see something inappropriate but once you look underneath the surface it becomes clear that no strings have been pulled in favor of donations. This is all another case of assumptions of wrongdoing. But there is no evidence. Of course, team Trump will go on telling people about the shady work of the Clinton foundation (he himself donated 100.000 dollar to) in hope that something of the lies stick if the lies are just repeated over and over again. Or the media is just not looking hard enough or even cover up stuff.

In other news, the rent for Trumps campaign head quarters at Trump Tower has just been tripled. Conflict of interest anyone?

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Why don't you guys mention the 10-25 million dollar donations the organization received from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States? The biggest donations the organization received. You know, these same people (THIS ARTICLE IS FROM MARCH)

Saudi’s Exploding Christmas Gifts From Hillary Clinton

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Co-authored by Rebecca Green, CODEPINK D.C. office coordinator

As Hillary Clinton emerges as the front-runner for the Democratic Party’s presidential candidate, she is receiving increased scrutiny for her years as Secretary of State. Many are criticizing her hawkish foreign policy, which is the best indication of what President Hillary’s foreign policy would be, with many focusing on her long relationship with Saudi Arabia.

On Christmas Eve in 2011, Hillary Clinton and her closest aides celebrated a $29.4 billion sale of over 80 F-15 fighter jets, manufactured by U.S.-based Boeing Corporation, to Saudi Arabia. In a chain of enthusiastic emails, an aide exclaimed that it was “not a bad Christmas present.”

These are the very fighter jets the Saudis have been using to intervene in the internal affairs of Yemen since March 2015. A year later, at least 2,800 Yemeni civilians have been killed, mostly by airstrikes—and there is no end in sight. The indiscriminate Saudi strikes have killed journalists and ambulance drivers. They have hit the Chamber of Commerce, facilities supported by Médecins Sans Frontières (also known as Doctors Without Borders), a wedding hall, and a center for the blind. The attacks have also targeted ancient heritage sites in Yemen. International human rights organizations are saying that the Saudi-led strikes on Yemen may amount to war crimes.

During her tenure as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made weapons transfers to the Saudi government a “top priority,” according to a new report published in The Intercept. While Clinton’s State Department was deeply invested in getting weapons to Saudi Arabia, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars in donations from both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the weapons manufacturer Boeing. Christmas presents were being gifted all around.

Despite the brutal attacks on Yemen and egregious domestic human rights violations, Saudi Arabia remains the number one U.S. ally in the Arab world. While the original U.S. interest was to secure Saudi’s vast oil reserves, today only 10% of oil used in the United States now comes from the Kingdom. U.S. dependence on Saudi oil has been superseded by U.S. dependence on weapons sales. The most recent Saudi weapons deal was made in November 2015, a deal worth $1.29 billion that included 22,000 smart and general purpose bombs, and over 5,000 Joint Direct Attack Munitions kits to convert older bombs into precision-guided weapons using GPS signals. The Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency justified the sales, saying they helped “sustain strong military-to-military relationships between the United States and Saudi Arabia.”

It’s hard to exaggerate the enormity and high-tech nature of Saudi weapons purchases; the sales in the decade of 2010 constitute the most enormous military sales in history. According to a White House press release in 2014, “The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the largest U.S. Foreign Military Sales customer, with active and open cases valued at approximately $97 billion, as Saudi forces build capabilities across the full spectrum of regional challenges.” The weapons include F-15 bombers, Apache and Blackhawk helicopters, missile defense systems, missiles, bombs, armored vehicles, and related equipment and services. Weapons manufacturers such as Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics and McDonnell Douglas have been unapologetically pushing these sales to offset military spending cuts in the United States and Europe.

While the U.S. government continues to provide massive amounts of weapons to Saudi, on February 25 the European Union took the extraordinary step of voting for an EU-wide arms embargo to Saudi Arabia; while non-binding, it is a powerful statement that will put pressure on all European governments. Already, government committees in England have urged Prime Minister David Cameron to suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia; Germany has pledged to review all future arms sales to the Kingdom; and in Belgium the government has denied an export license to ship weapons to the country. Canadian activists are also pressuring their government in light of Canada’s $15 billion transaction with Riyadh for weaponized armored vehicles, the biggest manufacturing export deal ever struck in Canada.

U.S. activists must follow the example of our European allies and demand that our government stop supplying the Saudi rulers with weapons to bomb civilians in Yemen and repress its own citizens. Join CODEPINK for the Summit on Saudi Arabia March 5-6 to learn more and get involved. If you can’t make it in person, watch the livestream at www.therealnews.com.

Medea Benjamin is the co-founder of the peace group CODEPINK and the human rights organization Global Exchange. She is the author of eight books, including one about Saudi Arabia coming out in a few months.

Rebecca Green is the D.C. office coordinator at CODEPINK. She is a student at Northeastern University with a sociology degree and a minor in women’s gender and sexuality studies.

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Why don't you guys mention the 10-25 million dollar donations the organization received from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States? The biggest donations the organization received.

So what? Saudi Arabia gave money to the Clinton Foundation, like many other countries (like Switzerland). This money went to the CF projects I quoted in my last post (hospitals, AIDS researchs, global warming initiatives), not in weapons or in Hillary's pocket.

Your article means nothing. The USA sold weapons to Saudi Arabia decades before the Clinton Foundation even existed. To think that the USA sold 29 billion dollars of weapons to Saudi Arabia just because they gave 10 millions to the Clinton Foundation is ridiculous.

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