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IsaacHarris: What are the Madonna jamz to ya? :fag:

Well, theres no real formula to a 'jam' in terms of genre or instrumentation, but I do I have my own rating system for songs: when it comes to upbeat tracks (I'm excluding slower/ mellower songs, which I rate separately) they're either categorized as a groove, a tune, or a jam. There are FEW exceptions to the rule:

-Grooves (usually mid tempo) make me head nod & shoulder bop: Don't Stop, Fever, Cherish, Hollywood, Music, Borderline.

-Tunes have a little more UMPH to them. They're the kinda songs I listen to on a more frequent basis & sometimes invent my own choreography to: Angel, Candy Shop, Material Girl, Push, Bedtime Story (Junior Vasquez Remix), Heartbeat, Vogue, Dance 2nite.

-JAMZ are undeniable; I HAVE to move my feet when they come on! In fact, MAJORITY of my favorite Madonna songs are JAMZ, so words like 'introspective' & 'deep' mean NOTHING unless I'm dancin my ass off. Get Together, 4M, Causing a Commotion, Deeper & Deeper (Live From Down Under specifically), DAD S&S, Dress You Up, I'm Addicted, Into the Groove, that one WIFLFAG Remix (Above & Beyond I think. U KNOW THE ONE), OPEN YOUR HEART, LUCKY STAR, BEAT GOES ON :wow:

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I think Ray of Light + Music are the most overrated compared to my taste. They're nice albums but they're not albums I listen to as much compared to the other albums. Also, I think these albums have the most overrated songs. An example being Impressive Instant. I've never gotten the hype about it because it sounds so dated and borderline mediocre.

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I think Ray of Light + Music are the most overrated compared to my taste. They're nice albums but they're not albums I listen to as much compared to the other albums. Also, I think these albums have the most overrated songs. An example being Impressive Instant. I've never gotten the hype about it because it sounds so dated and borderline mediocre.

Amen. I thought I was the only one in here who didn't care for that song but I love most of the "Music" album. To me, Impressive Instant is just...THERE - like background music.

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I never implied that ROL was dancey. It's very moody & atmospheric as the singles indicate, COADF on the other hand (which had 'dance' in the title) threw me for a loop when I heard it in full and realized she was NOT giving what was advertised; I expected dancey disco fluff, which I love, but I got trancey cold electro. Sonically, it isn't an album geared towards my tastes. Get Together is the obvious shining gem tho.

As for LAP, no jamz detected :fag:

I know what you mean, i expected a more bombastic album, many songs are slow there. But i love it.

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Really? You DON'T want to start this conversation again. But let's settle this for good, shall we?

THIS is the Dick Tracy soundtrack:

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It's the original soundtrack, including all of the songs from the film EXCEPT Madonna's three songs, which were included on Madonna's album, I'm Breathless, which included songs "from and inspired by" the movie. Plus "Vogue," because why the hell not? She's Madonna. She could do whatever the fuck she wanted.

THIS is the Dick Tracy score:

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This was Danny Elfman's score from the film. Just the instrumental music he wrote for the movie. Simple.

THIS is I'm Breathless:

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Notice that "soundtrack" is nowhere to be found in the title or on the cover. Because it's not a soundtrack. A "soundtrack" includes songs from a film. The majority of the songs on this album were not featured in the film. It's a companion studio album, a concept album "inspired by" the film. It lives in a nebulous gray area where only Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Mariah Carey's Glitter album, compassionate Republicans, and lipstick lesbians reside. It's not a soundtrack. It's not a regular studio album. It's a special little album that only a brilliant artist like Madonna could deliver to her fans. Now stop trying to fit it into a box and label it, and just enjoy it!

Bravo! Thank you. Fact proven. This is a studio album. End of story. It's one of her best.

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Overrated by whom? Critics, consumers (general public), fans? I just can't go there. Being a huge fan, there isn't one album I dislike enough to say it's overrated. Certainly, there are albums I listen less, but I certaintely wouldn't call them over rated. Also, i find it baffling how one could say AMERICAN LIFE is "overrated?" That album has become her least successful album. How can it be "overrated" unless you're going by the fans who love it? I think this "overrating" queation is much easier answered by non-fans than fans. That said, some of you may need to check your fan card at the door when you say "True Blue", "LAP" and "ROL" are overrated. Each of those album showed a diverse Madonna, maturing with each album. I'm assuming some of these comments are based on the fact some of you weren't fans until a certain era or that some of you are more of a casual fan.

Me? As a huge fan from the beginning, I can't fathom thinking any album is "overrated".

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Anyone who thinks Like A Prayer is overrated, needs to visit an audiologist, and have their hearing deficit tested, stat!

Most overrated would be COADF. Nice album, but not worthy of all it's praise!

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^ This. It's all relative though. I think most fans would agree that ALL Madonna albums are UNDERRATED. Like A Prayer, for example, is often the one album that appears on Best Of lists, but it's usually #856. But I think when we're saying "overrated" here, we mean among fans and maybe some pop critics.

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Overrated by whom? Critics, consumers (general public), fans? I just can't go there. Being a huge fan, there isn't one album I dislike enough to say it's overrated. Certainly, there are albums I listen less, but I certaintely wouldn't call them over rated. Also, i find it baffling how one could say AMERICAN LIFE is "overrated?" That album has become her least successful album. How can it be "overrated" unless you're going by the fans who love it? I think this "overrating" queation is much easier answered by non-fans than fans. That said, some of you may need to check your fan card at the door when you say "True Blue", "LAP" and "ROL" are overrated. Each of those album showed a diverse Madonna, maturing with each album. I'm assuming some of these comments are based on the fact some of you weren't fans until a certain era or that some of you are more of a casual fan.

Me? As a huge fan from the beginning, I can't fathom thinking any album is "overrated".

You said everything I was thinking (only better than I could have put it).

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Actually, this whole thread is shit! How can anyone of us dare to hate on an album...I mean we are Madonna fans. We all have songs on each album that we love and admire and songs we don't like as much. Who are we to decide that an album is overrated? What is our criteria? What is everyone's criteria, tbh? Actually every Madonna album is underrated. They were all essential for pop history up until MDNA, which is still a great album with less impact than her previous albums and still a lot of people nowadays pay Madonna dust. As if she never existed, or only existed in the eighties, eventhough she's been more relevant than anyone, even throughout the nineties and the millenium.

MADONNA is Madonna's first album and slays basically everyone of the recent Pop Princess' debuts. So many iconic songs and videos. This album truly shaped the eighties.

LIKE A VIRGIN is probably not as strong as MADONNA, but had an amazing impact on pop history and many iconic songs on it, nobody can ignore.

TRUE BLUE has probably Madonna's strongest singles of her career united one album and represents a drastical change of style in Madonna's life.

LIKE A PRAYER is shred to pieces in here for being her most overrated, but if you compare this album to her previous you can see there was an extreme change for Madonna as an artist throughout this era. Madonna revealed a completely different side of hers and this album is iconic. And to those who say Erotica is underrated, because Madonna rarely performs songs from that album you should take a look at LAP. The title track and EY are the only songs from this album that have been performed recently. LAP was performed for the second time in 2004. That is almost 15 years after it's first tour performance. The title track is the only song that has been played quite frequently in the past few years.

EROTICA at the time of it's release was something that really wasn't like anything other artists were doing at that time. Madonna really stood out compared to her fellow performers and was always the center of attention. I think people were a little disappointed at the time of it's release because it wasn't what they erxpected and now, 20 years later it gets the recognition it deserves. I personally don't like it that much but I can see why people think this was one of her most artistic and I still think it's one of the best albums of all time, just like every other Madonna album.

BEDTIME STORIES might be often overlooked as it was released between two of Madonna's most iconic eras and not being performed on tour did not help it's popularity. The album itself probably features some of Madonna's finest produced and well-written songs and the whole aura this album surrounds is just something that one cannot deny. It has something very special to it, and to me it's one of Madonna's most interesting albums.

RAY OF LIGHT is another album that has been named a lot in here. While this album received critical acclaim and probably is one of Madonna's most beloved ones, it might not be something for everyone. It's very experimental and not everyone's kind of music. This album is probably Madonna's debut as a completely new artist. Ray of Light is the Madonna that is now. It was her rebirth and her reclaiming the pop throne. No other artist, except maybe Cher can say that they managed to revive their career in a way Madonna did during the RoL-era.

MUSIC is kind of like the new-age LAV or BS. It's a really good album that was released after a majorly succesful one and is kind of a mixture between AL and ROL. Again this album is often forgotten cause the era was cut short and only had three singles with only two of them being hits. It's very diverse and it becomes clear Madonna really wasn't sure what direction to go into, but as an album it somehow works and still manages to sound cohesive.

AMERICAN LIFE is probably her most hated album today and considered her first real flop. AL in my opinion is another ROL. She did something completely different than anybody else and something that was completely different from what she's done before. Music might have foreshadowed it a little bit but I think AL is a really great album, artistically. It's way ahead of it's time and I think 20 years later, her fans will come to appreciate this as much as Erotica is appreciated now.

CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR is probably her most critically acclaimed "new" Madonna album after RoL. I think this album is basically Madonna reviving and re-inventing her old self, reflecting on her past etc. She's actually remaking some of her old songs (Love Song, Keep It Together, Borderline) and puts a new twist on them. This album is lyrically and musically one of Madonna's finest moments, and again deserves every bit of praise it gets.

HARD CANDY another very polarizing album that seems to be more of grower. It's vocally probably not up there, but still produced a lot of really really great and iconic songs. It's funky and edgy and in my opinion, was another risky step for Madonna that she managed to handle nicely.

MDNA acclaimed by critics, adored by many fans, not handled nicely in terms of promotion. We all know what the main issue this era was but this doesn't change the fact that this album was still a great effort on Madonna's part. It might seem a little rushed, here and there, but again produced many amazing Madonna songs that are probably way up there with some of her greatest tracks!

EVERY MADONNA ALBUM IS UNDERRATED. EVERY MADONNA ALBUM DESERVES EVERY BIT OF PRAISE IT GETS! Every album represents a phase Madonna was going through in her life and show her becoming more and more mature over the years, gaining experience. There is no such thing as OVERRATED Madonna albums, cause they're all great!

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Overrated by whom? Critics, consumers (general public), fans? I just can't go there. Being a huge fan, there isn't one album I dislike enough to say it's overrated. Certainly, there are albums I listen less, but I certaintely wouldn't call them over rated. Also, i find it baffling how one could say AMERICAN LIFE is "overrated?" That album has become her least successful album. How can it be "overrated" unless you're going by the fans who love it? I think this "overrating" queation is much easier answered by non-fans than fans. That said, some of you may need to check your fan card at the door when you say "True Blue", "LAP" and "ROL" are overrated. Each of those album showed a diverse Madonna, maturing with each album. I'm assuming some of these comments are based on the fact some of you weren't fans until a certain era or that some of you are more of a casual fan.

Me? As a huge fan from the beginning, I can't fathom thinking any album is "overrated".

I've said American Life is overrated and I meant by fans not by the general public or critics. To say something is overrated doesn't mean you dislike it. I actually do like American Life quite a bit, but I don't really agree it's her best album or quite the masterpiece the group of fans who really love it claim that is. A lot of fans who do overrate American Life sometimes don't like her later albums like Confessions because they feel AL was deeper and ultra edgy and the "real" Madonna and she betrayed her principles by going back to more fun dance music, which I don't really agree with. Whereas I feel AL was quite a departure for her. It was an interesting thing to do, but I can't see her continuing in that direction even if it had been more successful. I think it's a very pretty album but I don't know how innovative it was since the acoustic guitar thing is a pretty common thing to do. It was a nice chance to take but I do feel she isn't at best and a little bit of a fish out of water when she gets too far away from the dancefloor.

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Ray of Light, I think it's a great album and era, but I couldn't care less for Shanti / Ashanti, I rarely listen to ROF as an album, I just don't think the album has clicked with me, maybe one day.

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