iasonas Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 At least she will be no1 for sure on the billboard POP100 chart right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 when are the remixes going to be out????? maybe that will help!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 when are the remixes going to be out????? maybe that will help!!!! APRIL 21... after the week of E=MC2 and MARIAH's AI and OPRAH appearance, quite perfect actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 It's so funny how people actually believe she will be #1... I mean it's nice that you have so much believe... but Madonna would need ALOT of downloads to be #1 because her overall AI on radio isn't enough to make the single #1... Now I would really want that to happen... but we have to be realistic... also the song is gaining less and less on radio everyday now... so I dunno... But a top.3 is good anyways... could have been nice to have seen it #1... which it could potentially be... but there has to be more radio support for that i'm afraid... but we can cross our fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 we are all new with this popularity bar thingy zezwer... first time i've seen it last week so there is always room for error but we'll learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 TMB went back up to #3, must be very close with LOLLIPOP right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejr. Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 TMB went back up to #3, must be very close with LOLLIPOP right now... tmb still number 4 on my itunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 tmb still number 4 on my itunes. use the rss feeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejr. Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 use the rss feeder how do i do that?pls rep asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 how do i do that?pls rep asap. http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/W...mit=700/rss.xml then change the number "700" to any random number for future use to refresh it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 we are all new with this popularity bar thingy zezwer... first time i've seen it last week so there is always room for error but we'll learn The pop bars for the ringtones are very weird ( at least on my I-Tunes), the bar for #3 is longer than #2. It is even less logical if you look further below in the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 new one up this page.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azelover Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Isn't this popularity bar the rate o sales at the moment? The regular chart and the popularity chart seem to go hand-in-hand so I don't think this is cumulative sales for the week. It's just how it's doing at that moment, how it's sold for the whole week is anyone's guess. If this is true then Madonna and Mariah are actually closer than the popularity bar is showing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 My take is that the ranking and the pop bars showing how the song did in the last 7 days or since the beginning of this week. Maybe it is different with ringtones, because ranking and bars are not in sync. I believe the ringtone position shows the current populatity and the bar are cumulative. Not that the ringtone matters for the charts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 My take is that the ranking and the pop bars showing how the song did in the last 7 days or since the beginning of this week. i think the same... so the popularity bar that we must look at is the one we will see close to SUNDAY midnight US... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afrolito Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 It should be obvious the popularity bar is cumulative for the week. Moment by moment, day by day, Madonna has been leading all week. DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapple Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 It's so funny how people actually believe she will be #1... I mean it's nice that you have so much believe... but Madonna would need ALOT of downloads to be #1 because her overall AI on radio isn't enough to make the single #1... Now I would really want that to happen... but we have to be realistic... also the song is gaining less and less on radio everyday now... so I dunno... But a top.3 is good anyways... could have been nice to have seen it #1... which it could potentially be... but there has to be more radio support for that i'm afraid... but we can cross our fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azelover Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) My take is that the ranking and the pop bars showing how the song did in the last 7 days or since the beginning of this week. Maybe it is different with ringtones, because ranking and bars are not in sync. I believe the ringtone position shows the current popularity and the bar are cumulative. Not that the ringtone matters for the charts... Really? I was under the impression that there is a regular chart, in which new songs sometimes shoot right up in a matter of days, therefore not cumulative, and then this popularity chart. What I'm seeing is the popularity chart and the regular one seem to go hand in hand. Last week when Madonna was 2# and Mariah #1, Madonna was gaining on the popularity bars and getting close, however that is impossible if the popularity bar was cumulative, she needed to be number 1 in the regular chart to gain any traction on Mariah's total sales, do you understand my viewpoint? As long as Madonna was number 2 in the regular bar which is not cumulative, she could not have caught up with Mariah in a cumulative way because Mariah was still growing faster along the way. So that's why I'm saying the popularity bars seem to merely be another metric for the same regular bars for the last few hours, which is not cumulative, therefore neither is cumulative. Edited April 5, 2008 by Azelover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harbors Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 AMAZON Madonna #1 Mariah #19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 itunes TMB = 65% of 4 minutes according to popularity bars not enough 4 minutes will be #2 on hot 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robingr Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Djs are making sure to make Mo as irrelevant as possible. It seems impossible to be number 1 without airplay. If 4M was justin only it def would'nt have 35 million AI by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicagobull Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 its doing great on airplay, what are you talking about?? .Airplay keeps building , so she still has a chance of being number1. Im pleased with number 3, everything else is iccing on the cake. No one thought radio was going to be as supporting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 ITS SLOWLY BUILDING YEAH SURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Really? I was under the impression that there is a regular chart, in which new songs sometimes shoot right up in a matter of days, therefore not cumulative, and then this popularity chart. What I'm seeing is the popularity chart and the regular one seem to go hand in hand. Last week when Madonna was 2# and Mariah #1, Madonna was gaining on the popularity bars and getting close, however that is impossible if the popularity bar was cumulative, she needed to be number 1 in the regular chart to gain any traction on Mariah's total sales, do you understand my viewpoint? As long as Madonna was number 2 in the regular bar which is not cumulative, she could not have caught up with Mariah in a cumulative way because Mariah was still growing faster along the way. So that's why I'm saying the popularity bars seem to merely be another metric for the same regular bars for the last few hours, which is not cumulative, therefore neither is cumulative. I believe the chart spots and pop bars are cumulative for the week. If that is the case Madonna can move closer to Mariah, because Madonna can sell 1,000 copies in an hour and Mariah 500. That means Madonna's bar is growing faster. And think about it, when a new song is released it is possible that that song ( if from a popular artist or a song with massive airplay) is downloaded more than a song that is available for a longer time, that's why Mariah and Madonna did shoot up the charts that fast. If the charts and bars where not cumulative they would change more from update to update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUR2008 Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Watch the "4 Minutes" video at AOL Music Category: Video-clip. AOL Music has a streaming of Madonna's music video "4 Minutes". Visit this page here to watch it: -link- Please also vote in the two poll questions posted on that page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MTSTW Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 It's so nice seeing Madonna on top of all those Itune charts (Top Songs, Videos, Ringtones) and then seeing her album in the top ten there as well. She deserves this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azelover Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I believe the chart spots and pop bars are cumulative for the week. If that is the case Madonna can move closer to Mariah, because Madonna can sell 1,000 copies in an hour and Mariah 500. That means Madonna's bar is growing faster. And think about it, when a new song is released it is possible that that song ( if from a popular artist or a song with massive airplay) is downloaded more than a song that is available for a longer time, that's why Mariah and Madonna did shoot up the charts that fast. If the charts and bars where not cumulative they would change more from update to update. That's true, though it still could be a summary of the last few hours, but I see what you mean. It's certainly best for Madonna's situation that the popularity bars are cumulative. I guess until something official comes out explaining it we'll never know for sure, but from last week's results the bars seem relatively reliable for cumulative sales, so let's leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 im also feeling shell end up (this week) at the freakin dreaded #2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impressiveinstinct Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 hmm....TMB is at about 61% of 4M's pop bars, so it should be a close one i think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bulgar Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 updates please!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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