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6 minutes ago, LSD said:

 

:blink::lmao::lmao:Sooo TRUE! Eeeww

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Jazzy Jan    0

Great article from Eric Zorn that completely demonstrates the selfish thinking of too many.  Joe Walsh - what a dreadful heartless excuse for a human being.  

 

Former Congressman Joe Walsh was acting very presidential Tuesday afternoon.

By which I mean he was impulsively tweeting venomous, half-baked thoughts — in this case his reaction to late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel's monologue Monday about his newborn son's dramatic battle for life at Children's Hospital Los Angeles.

"Sorry Jimmy Kimmel," wrote the feisty Republican who represented the northwest suburban 8th U.S. Congressional District from 2011 to 2013. "Your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care."

Many found this outrageous. I merely found it illustrative.

Kimmel opened his nightly ABC talk show with an often-tearful, 13-minute retelling of the frightening days after son Billy's birth April 21 when a surgeon saved the boy's life by performing emergency surgery to repair a defect in his heart.

Toward the end Kimmel said, "Before 2014, if you were born with congenital heart disease like my son was, there was a good chance you'd never be able to get health insurance because you had a pre-existing condition. You were born with a pre-existing condition. And if your parents didn't have medical insurance, you might not live long enough to even get denied because of a pre-existing condition.

"If your baby is going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make," he said. "I think that's something that, whether you're a Republican, or a Democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right?"

Well, no. Wrong.

I understand Kimmel's desire not to sully his powerful tale with partisanship, but the central difference of opinion in this major battle over insurance coverage is partisan. Democrats generally believe that access to consistent, affordable, quality health care is a right. Republicans generally believe that it is a privilege properly enjoyed by those with the means to afford it, like access to quality restaurants.

"Let's stop with the nonsense," Kimmel pleaded. "This isn't football. There are no teams. We are the team. It is the United States. Don't let their partisan squabbles divide us on something every decent person wants. No parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life."

Walsh, 55, who has a nationally syndicated daily program that originates from Chicago conservative talk station WIND AM-560, helpfully jumped online to clarify.

To paraphrase: Life is about choices. And if you choose not to have enough money or a job that provides your children with urgently needed care, it's not my problem. It's your sick baby's problem. Good luck with that.

"My money was earned by me and should be kept by my family and I (sic)," Walsh tweeted a half-hour later. Then, the next morning, as he was being roasted on social and conventional media coast to coast (and mocked for earlier troubles when he fell behind in his child support payments), he added, "It's not compassion to forcibly take the money I make & give it to someone else. It is compassion for me to voluntarily help someone else."

The callousness of these remarks was echoed by Rep. Robert Pittenger, R-N.C., who told reporters Tuesday that, hey, if people with pre-existing medical conditions happen to live in a state that waives their protections under the GOP health care bill if it is enacted, they can always move to another state. The proposal "brings choice back to the American people," he said.

And it was in sync with remarks Monday on CNN by Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., that healthy "people who lead good lives … who've done things the right way … are seeing their costs skyrocketing" because of the existing requirement that we all chip in to pay for those with pre-existing conditions. "People who have higher health care costs (should) contribute more to the insurance pool," he said.

Look. We're all born with a terminal condition. Few of us face the fact as early as Billy Kimmel, but something's going to get us in the end. Luck will play a huge role in what ailments and injuries we have to fight along the way and how expensive those fights are going to be. Luck will also play a role in how able we'll be to cover those bills.

True compassion demands that we minimize the role of luck in access to necessary health care, not layer on hope for charity and pity.

Expand Kimmel's idea that "no parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life" to include spouses, parents, siblings and selves.

That's what Democrats are fighting for.

And they owe Joe Walsh thanks for so clearly illustrating what they're fighting against.

 

 

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VogueMusic    0

Despicable.  Disrespectable.  Heartless.  Evil.

The "Party of Jesus" my ass. 

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No one likes this bill. Not even republicans. What's so disgusting is that the only reason they shot this thru the House was to project a WIN to their brainless supporters. 

I hope Dems capitalize on their smug faces in that photo op and their little frat boy keg party they thru after it was passed. 

Despicable. 

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Kim    0

NOW of course would be the time for gathering and marching en masse, about a real, tangible disgusting policy that this lot couldn't then say "what are they even demonstrating about?" But I guess that "womens march" was it, eh?

The new-normal indeed.

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VogueMusic    0

Well, a number of marches have been happening for various things over the last few months (women's march, science/climate change, etc.). Maybe some of the groups are organizing marches on this issue coming up...don't know, but I hope so. I'm betting some are.

HRC was out marching in front of congress the day of though.

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karbatal    0

A country that doesn't feel that health care is universal has a big problem.  Trump is the crystallisation of this problem: egoistic,  classist and stupid.  

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Robin    0

AMERICA IS TOO CAPITALIST 

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ULIZOS    0

COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. 

 

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VogueMusic    0

So basically if you've had a cough...you'll pay more for (or won't be able to get) health insurance.

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Jazzy Jan    0

I love Bernie Sanders.  Some of his tweets. 

Yes, Mr. Trump, the Australian health care system is a lot better than ours and infinitely better than the disastrous bill you supported.

Thank you Mr. Trump for admitting that universal health care is the better way to go. I'll be sure to quote you on the floor of the Senate.

 

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Jazzy Jan    0
On 2017-5-6 at 3:56 AM, Kim said:

NOW of course would be the time for gathering and marching en masse, about a real, tangible disgusting policy that this lot couldn't then say "what are they even demonstrating about?" But I guess that "womens march" was it, eh?

The new-normal indeed.

Definitely.  This is a policy change that will effect millions of Americans in a terrible and unfair way.  They need to protest as loudly as possible. Start concentrating on the evidence of what he is doing.  Go with the concrete facts that are out there.   

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8 hours ago, jazzyjan said:

Definitely.  This is a policy change that will effect millions of Americans in a terrible and unfair way.  They need to protest as loudly as possible. Start concentrating on the evidence of what he is doing.  Go with the concrete facts that are out there.   

Oh but they won't.

The mindless serpents that Trump has gaslighted will never abandon him. And they're the ones who need healthcare the most. He's got 35-40% of this country locked up behind him. 

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karbatal    0

The health system is incredibly unfair in the USA and they should have prostested DECADES ago. During THE KENNEDY DAYS.  The European system was built during the 50s and 60s. It's a question of giving dignity to every citizen, simply because we are all human beings. And if we could, the USA could have done it too. We started building the system during the Marshal plan (50s) or even during dictatures (Spain, where there was no Marshal plan). The USA got incredibly rich during the 60s, but I guess all money was spent in the army, during the cold war, or sending the man to the Moon or whatever. But there was money. 

And now there is money to give a universal treatment to everyone. If a country like Spain, where we are going through such difficult moments with unemployment and crisis nowadays, still any illegal immigrant who collapses and is taken to a hospital would have brain surgery if he had a tumour, then USA can. 

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Jazzy Jan    0
5 hours ago, KalamazooJay said:

Oh but they won't.

The mindless serpents that Trump has gaslighted will never abandon him. And they're the ones who need healthcare the most. He's got 35-40% of this country locked up behind him. 

It truly amazes me that he has so many followers who just forgive him for everything he does and support him no matter what.  That they still see him as the "blue collar millionaire"  who is the same as them.  Even when he has kicked the poorer classes in the teeth with these new health care policies, some are still behind him totally and defend him to the death. They seem to think that he has lived like them and relates to them but he is using them.  

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VogueMusic    0

Never underestimate the stupidity and prideful ignorance of a significant portion of the US. Never underestimate it.

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Skin    0

The evil side of me soooooooo wants this bill to pass so idiot Trumpers see first hand what a disaster it is as they lose their coverage.  Republicans only give a shit when shit happens to them. 

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karbatal    0

The sad thing is that poor classes will suffer. Those rich, blond, queen bees families will feel better because they will pay less taxes and will think that poor people deserve their problems because they are lazy and stupid. 

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Hector    0

old creepy pasty crusty men! 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-defends-men-working-health-care-replacement-article-1.3150677

Senate GOP defends only men working on health care replacement

BY CAMERON JOSEPH 

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Updated: Tuesday, May 9, 2017, 5:09 PM

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) argued on Tuesday that every member would have his or her say, ignoring that women have been excluded from the group he formed to tackle the bill. (PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/AP)

WASHINGTON — Senate Republican leaders reacted to fierce criticism that they'd picked an all-male working group to shape their Obamacare replacement plan by pretending that working group didn't matter.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) argued on Tuesday that every member would have his or her say, ignoring that all the women in the Senate have been excluded from the group he formed to tackle the bill.

"The working group is all 52 of us," he argued, refusing to say whether there were any plans to add a woman. "Nobody’s being excluded based upon gender ... everybody’s at the table, everybody."

That came after he began his weekly press conference by declaring "there's no particular working group" in charge of the bill, seeking to downplay its importance.

But some in McConnell's own conference are criticizing the group's membership.

"I just want to make sure we have some women on it," Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) declared.

Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) addressed the group when it met earlier on Tuesday, but it didn’t appear that there were any plans for her to become a permanent member. That meeting took place, ironically, in a room named after former segregationist good ole boy Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-S.C.).

None of the Senate’s five female Republicans are in the group, which is dominated by members of the all-male GOP leadership and some of its most conservative members. That may be in part because the two Republican women with the most seniority — Murkowski and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) — are moderates who have promised to defend Planned Parenthood funding and have expressed deep concerns about GOP plans to end Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion, as has Capito.

Twelve of the group’s 13 members are white, with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) being the lone exception.

Democrats pounded McConnell for his approach to health care reform — and singled out the all-male group as a a prime example of how Republicans needed to change.

"Republicans have put together a partisan all-male group to craft the bill behind closed doors," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said. "If you look at the House bill it is so discriminatory against women, even pregnancy is a preexisting condition. And to not have women in the smaller group that we know is making many of the real decisions is a very, very bad thing. They’re more than half the population, they’re affected worse off than even men are. It is just so wrong it not only send a bad signal but produces a bad result."

"We are going to keep pushing Senate Republicans to take a very different path than the House did by sending a very clear message to the 13 Republican men currently negotiating a secret health care plan which I really hope is not happening in the men’s locker room, at the very least," declared Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), a member of Democratic leadership.

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Jazzy Jan    0

^ so true @Hector  They are all crusty, creepy, white old men.   Sickening lot. 

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VogueMusic    0

And yet, so many women in this last election voted for this party.  And they continue to...

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runa    0
On 2017-05-10 at 2:17 AM, VogueMusic said:

And yet, so many women in this last election voted for this party.  And they continue to...

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Two of them used to be member here. That's worst than anything.

Funny they're gone and don't post anything anymore.

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horn    0
On ‎10‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 2:17 PM, VogueMusic said:

And yet, so many women in this last election voted for this party.  And they continue to...

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They are mentally ill...

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(PS: The poor baby)

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horn    0

I hope they won't recruit Sarah Palin to be part of the group...

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