bcx Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, karbatal said: Anybody bored with tracks only weeks after their release are not fans. Period. That’s a really stupid thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcx Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve said: ☝ ....brush, flush, purge non fans if they won’t leave voluntarily Being a fan does not mean blindly subscribing to everything an artist does. That’s called being a mindless shill. Deal with it. Edited May 24, 2019 by bcx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systemvalues Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said: If Madonna has to die first to be "cool" with the teens, I'd rather have her remain uncool. Madonna is cool and well alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danmacevents Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Crave video YouTube app promo in times Square on her insta story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, Danmacevents said: Crave video YouTube app promo in times Square on her insta story OMG really ? What Crave was promoted on one of the big screens ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danmacevents Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Confessit said: OMG really ? What Crave was promoted on one of the big screens ? Yes advertising YouTube app. It's in her Instagram story not profile X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Danmacevents said: Yes advertising YouTube app. It's in her Instagram story not profile X I'm not on my phone at minute to see it but that's amazing. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 hours ago, karbatal said: Anybody bored with tracks only weeks after their release are not fans. Period. I was bored with the tracks the moment I heard them. I guess I'm not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, frzndrwnwrld said: I was bored with the tracks the moment I heard them. I guess I'm not a fan. You haven't posted anything positive in this era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bcx said: That’s a really stupid thing to say. Yeah. It's so normal to be bored in days of a song... Imagine YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobelson Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bcx said: Being a fan does not mean blindly subscribing to everything an artist does. That’s called being a mindless shill. Deal with it. Thank you for this. The delusion here sometimes is unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneydude Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The video is beautiful. Can't stop playing the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side_streets Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, karbatal said: You haven't posted anything positive in this era. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herfaceremains Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I don’t think it has anything to do with being a sycophant or blindly subscribing to everything an artist does, but you are correct. We are all entitled to our opinions and we should be able to share them on a forum. However, if you find that music has no replay value, maybe that’s more testament to how fickle we have become as consumers, and how we approach pop culture in an era of dwindling attention spans and superfluous choice. I think that in order for a song to become a classic, it has to accompany us in our experiences and our emotions. It has to become a part of the fabric of our lives by how we feel at the time we discover it and listen to it. The older we get, the more of an effort we have to make to invest in our experiences because we have had so many already! Nothing is ever going to feel quite the same to me as the first time I heard Papa Don’t Preach, This Used To Be My Playground or Frozen. But nothing will feel the same as the first time I heard Crave either! Just a different perspective, but I hope these songs all become the soundtrack of our lives in the best way possible. And here’s to the songs we have yet to discover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Aime said: Ugh, she's so fucking cool. Falling in love with her all over again. And I get to copy a Madonna hairdo! Haven’t done that for awhile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, karbatal said: You haven't posted anything positive in this era. Well, I can't help that I'm not feeling this era. I'm sure there will be stuff on the album I like but I have not connected to the tracks released so far. Other than that, I love the theme of the album, the artwork, the interviews, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Sinner Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, frzndrwnwrld said: Well, I can't help that I'm not feeling this era. I'm sure there will be stuff on the album I like but I have not connected to the tracks released so far. Other than that, I love the theme of the album, the artwork, the interviews, etc. So what, it's totally fine. You're a fan, of course you're going to support her in every way. We need to respect other people's opinion. She didn't even start with a proper promo tour yet, it's going to be a fun ride!!! I'm not blown away with the singles, but this is sort of a beginning and I can't wait to experience the rest of this era ❤ Crave got potentional for the radio hit, it seems general audience like it @vertigokane Good promo! Tnx Versace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasteinmen Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 So, Crave doesn’t work on Virgin Media YouTube channel? It plays 5 seconds then cuts off and goes to Medellín . I’ve tried rebooting but nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, tasteinmen said: So, Crave doesn’t work on Virgin Media YouTube channel? It plays 5 seconds then cuts off and goes to Medellín . I’ve tried rebooting but nothing. You know what I've had a similar issue watching the video on YouTube and halfway through it stops and switches to the audio of Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcx Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Herfaceremains said: I don’t think it has anything to do with being a sycophant or blindly subscribing to everything an artist does, but you are correct. We are all entitled to our opinions and we should be able to share them on a forum. However, if you find that music has no replay value, maybe that’s more testament to how fickle we have become as consumers, and how we approach pop culture in an era of dwindling attention spans and superfluous choice. I think that in order for a song to become a classic, it has to accompany us in our experiences and our emotions. It has to become a part of the fabric of our lives by how we feel at the time we discover it and listen to it. The older we get, the more of an effort we have to make to invest in our experiences because we have had so many already! Nothing is ever going to feel quite the same to me as the first time I heard Papa Don’t Preach, This Used To Be My Playground or Frozen. But nothing will feel the same as the first time I heard Crave either! Just a different perspective, but I hope these songs all become the soundtrack of our lives in the best way possible. And here’s to the songs we have yet to discover! This is a thoughtful response. Sometimes we do respond to art in ways that aren’t entirely authentic or fair. Absolutely. But sometimes the art isn’t affecting, or sophisticated, or interesting, or fun. This album is much stronger than her other post-Warner albums, but I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable to say that these three albums have not been the masterpieces that True Blue, Like a Prayer, Erotica, Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light, Music, American Life (my opinion), or Confessions were. Those albums are timeless and accomplished and they contributed something of lasting value to our culture and to American pop music in general. But when I listen to songs like “I Don’t Give A,” “Holy Water,” or “I Rise,” I don’t hear the same originality in the lyrics, the melody, the production, or the vocal. I don’t see it in the promotion. I see an artist who is preoccupied with reiterating what has been successful for her in the past, tapping into nostalgia, and revisiting the religious and political themes she’s been exploring for years. That doesn’t mean the music doesn’t have value. But I don’t personally find it compelling. Edited May 24, 2019 by bcx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasteinmen Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Confessit said: You know what I've had a similar issue watching the video on YouTube and halfway through it stops and switches to the audio of Future. It’s playing now. Glitched upload? Does that happen with YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, tasteinmen said: It’s playing now. Glitched upload? Does that happen with YouTube? It's hasn't for me before and I have Virgin Media as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasteinmen Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Confessit said: It's hasn't for me before and I have Virgin Media as well. I spoke too soon, it just cut off half way through. Nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, tasteinmen said: I spoke too soon, it just cut off half way through. Nightmare It's so annoying but I hope it's not happening for the video elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinB Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, karbatal said: You haven't posted anything positive in this era. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Herfaceremains Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, bcx said: This is a thoughtful response. Sometimes we do respond to art in ways that aren’t entirely authentic or fair. Absolutely. But sometimes the art isn’t affecting, or sophisticated, or interesting, or fun. This album is much stronger than her other post-Warner albums, but I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable to say that these three albums have not been the masterpieces that True Blue, Like a Prayer, Erotica, Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light, Music, American Life (my opinion), or Confessions were. Those albums are timeless and accomplished and they contributed something of lasting value to our culture and to American pop music in general. But when I listen to songs like “I Don’t Give A,” “Holy Water,” or “I Rise,” I don’t hear the same originality in the lyrics, the melody, the production, or the vocal. I don’t see it in the promotion. I see an artist who is preoccupied with reiterating what has been successful for her in the past, tapping into nostalgia, and revisiting the religious and political themes she’s been exploring for years. That doesn’t mean the music doesn’t have value. But I don’t personally find it compelling. Understood. But I’d argue that in terms of lyrics, the songs you gave as examples actually include some of her greatest and most intriguing lyrics. If you’re comparing them to the albums you hold in high esteem, do you really find the new songs are more lacking in originality and less meticulously crafted than, say, “I’ve had other guys, I’ve looked into their eyes”, “Pink elephants and lemonade”, “I’m not sorry, I’m not your bitch, don’t hang your shit on me”, or “I like to singy singy singy, like a bird on a wingy wingy wingy”? I’m not being antagonistic! I’m just pointing out that there have been many past songs that are classics that were at the time either savaged, dismissed as filler or found to be too reflective of the current style. Madonna always did it better, even when it was slightly derivative or shallow... Because it was Madonna! That’s sort of how I see songs like Future or Crave. Upon first listen, many fans were jarred by the almost purist reggae of Future, and the vocal effect was met with disappointment because the assumption seems to be that she uses it because she can’t sing or something! With Crave, the mere mention of trap was enough to make some dismiss the song as trite. I wouldn’t normally listen to a basic r n b ballad or latin reggaeton, but Madonna has a way of taking me there every time. And the next thing you know, I’m a Maluma and a Swae Lee fan when I tried to avoid Despacito, Jennifer Lopez and Drake like the plague forever! I also know there is a true artistic tilt about to happen when the album is released. Because no one is expecting what she is going to deliver. She knows exactly what she’s doing! Unfortunately you won’t get too many thoughtful responses either! I sometimes post near-novels and feel I’m expressing some type of Madonna community galvanizer, but they disappear in a sea of some other form of fandom. I just bring what I can to the table. Hope you find your Madame X groove when you discover the next phase! Edited May 24, 2019 by Herfaceremains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndvd25 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 https://www.idolator.com/7781905/madonna-swae-lee-crave-video-review?andro=1&ios=1&chrome=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, M_Sinner said: So what, it's totally fine. You're a fan, of course you're going to support her in every way. We need to respect other people's opinion. She didn't even start with a proper promo tour yet, it's going to be a fun ride!!! I'm not blown away with the singles, but this is sort of a beginning and I can't wait to experience the rest of this era ❤ Crave got potentional for the radio hit, it seems general audience like it @vertigokane Good promo! Tnx Versace Thank you! I still want the best for M. I pre-ordered the album and requested tickets for the tour. I'm thinking these songs will work better for me in the context of the album. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinB Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, johndvd25 said: https://www.idolator.com/7781905/madonna-swae-lee-crave-video-review?andro=1&ios=1&chrome=1 Love this article! Madonna & Swae Lee Unveil Sleek, Cinematic “Crave” Video It has been an interesting week for Madonna. Her Eurovision performance was roundly criticized (unfairly, in my opinion), but it’s going to take more than a minor backlash to keep the Queen of Pop down. The ballsiest 60-year-old on the planet bounces back today (May 22) by unveiling the video for “Crave.” Directed by Nuno Xico, the sleek, beautifully-shot visual is wonderfully understated. As much as I love the high camp and extravagance of “Medellín,” this is M’s most contemporary offering in a very long time. If any song from Madame X is going to overcome the daunting hurdle of ageism, it’s “Crave.” The hip-hop/pop concoction, which is the handiwork of Billboard and Mike Dean, oozes longing and desire. It’s also a deceptively catchy grower that lingers in the mind long after the song ends. Madonna will release “Dark Ballet” as the last pre-release buzz track on June 7, but I’m already confident that this is the enduring hitmaker’s best album in years. Watch the Queen strut her stuff alongside Swae Lee below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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