XXL Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39617700 Turkey referendum: Erdogan wins vote to expand presidential powers Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has narrowly won a referendum to expand presidential powers, which could keep him in office until 2029. With 99.45% of ballots counted, the "Yes" campaign had won 51.37% and "No" 48.63%, and the electoral board called victory for "Yes". Erdogan supporters say replacing the parliamentary system with an executive presidency will modernise the country. Turkey's two main opposition parties said they would challenge the results. The Republican People's Party (CHP) demanded a recount of 60% of votes. They criticised a decision to accept unstamped ballot papers as valid unless proven otherwise. As jubilant Erdogan supporters rallied in the big cities, pots and pans were banged in Istanbul by opponents of the referendum, in a traditional form of protest. Three people were shot dead near a polling station in the south-eastern province of Diyarbakir, reportedly during a dispute over how they were voting. The European Commission called on the Turkish authorities in a statement to "seek the broadest possible national consensus" when implementing the constitutional reforms. They are rejoicing into the night here outside the headquarters of the governing AK party (AKP), confident in the victory claimed by President Erdogan. He and his government say more than 51% of voters have backed the constitutional reform but the opposition has cried foul, claiming massive irregularities over invalid votes and vowing to challenge the result at the supreme electoral board. Mr Erdogan said the clear victory needed to be respected. In a typically rabble-rousing speech, he proposed another referendum on reinstating the death penalty, which would end Turkey's EU negotiations. But this has not been the resounding win he wanted and doubts will linger over its legitimacy. It was hoped this vote might bring Turkey stability but that still seems some way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 As if he would lose a referendum he organized... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Another crazy world decision won by 2%... the world is truly divided at this point. Scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Very scary indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazz Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Ataturk is rolling in his grave this will affect us negatively in all the Middle East nations. europe & USA turned blind eye on this shit if not they helped him to take power from very beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Turkey now is a dictatorship. The next step will be the death penalty. It all makes me wonder if the failed coup was a ploy to give Erdogan full powers, it surely looks like he is benefiting a lot from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrusPan Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 actually, "NO" votes were winning by far. But so many frauds *as usual* changed the reality. Only one news agency; Anadolu Agency, last nigt, spreading the news from the Supreme Electoral Council of Turkey. They both are in the control of Erdo :) And even though Istanbul is the most conservative city in Turkey "NO" votes won there. But the votes of some secular districts of Istanbul were not even counted... The funny thing; Üsküdar district said "NO"... it is where Erdogan lives. :D this means a lot ;) So, in the end, this result is actually what the western powers really want. It is now like the Treaty of Sèvres process right after the WWI ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I doubt that the western powers want this. They'd rather have a Turkey as it was 10 years ago, not this melomaniac presidency that has zero friends in western and zero friends in eastern. That's difficult to make, I think he's the first ruler that has no allies in any block. I expect turmoil, he going all Sadam and finally the kurds having their own independen republic, controlled by either Russia or USA (it will depend on the geopolitics evolving next years), so it will be easier to control him. My personal fear with this mong is that Bulgaria es too near and there are many turkish in Bulgaria too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I doubt that the western powers want this. They'd rather have a Turkey as it was 10 years ago, not this melomaniac presidency that has zero friends in western and zero friends in eastern. That's difficult to make, I think he's the first ruler that has no allies in any block. I expect turmoil, he going all Sadam and finally the kurds having their own independen republic, controlled by either Russia or USA (it will depend on the geopolitics evolving next years), so it will be easier to control him. My personal fear with this mong is that Bulgaria es too near and there are many turkish in Bulgaria too. Yes scary times ahead for Bulgaria and EU as a whole. I expect worsening of the relations between EU and Turkey and even a refugee exodus in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Well, Turkey has always lived very well as a strategic place between Asia and Europa and as retaining wall of the Mid East turbulence. I doubt they will change that, because without that role, there would be some scenario simmilar to Tunisia, a lot of chaos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudet Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 How lovely to vote for a dictator. What a great fuckery the world is right now, between Brexit/Tory/May, Trump, LePen, Erdogan, an absolute right wing disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XXL Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 The European Union has called on President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to launch a transparent investigation into allegations of irregularities during Turkey's constitutional reforms referendum. EU legislators have heavily criticized the Turkish President for going ahead with Sunday's referendum which paves the way for Erdogan to gain considerably more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Shocker Trump is so concerned with the "children of God" living in Syria, yet has no qualms whatsoever with the dreadful record on human rights of countries like Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia, which belies not only his idiotic, contradictory views and real motives behind Middle Eastern interventionism and but those of the entire US Foreign Policy as a whole, for decades American citizens and taxpayers are bring held ransom and chained to a military debt system of massive proportions just so that they can be used through fear to further the interests of a few controlling dinasties of the world, the same private interests that practically own the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England and the European Central Bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Erdogan saying he will make a referendum to decide if the country wants to join the EU Honey, they EU wouldn't touch you with a stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Erdogan saying he will make a referendum to decide if the country wants to join the EU Honey, they EU wouldn't touch you with a stick true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Erdogan saying he will make a referendum to decide if the country wants to join the EU Honey, they EU wouldn't touch you with a stick Unfortunately he will keep blackmailing the EU with the migrant crisis issue, money for people, disgusting. If only the West didn't wade into Libya the way it did back in 2011 we wouldn't have the carnage that's taking place in the Mediterranean today, every single day. That's the only reason why the EU and Merkel in particular are barely tolerating this nut's attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Turkey blocked Wikipedia today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Turkey blocked Wikipedia today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 disgusting my heart and soul for the atheists , secularists and freethinkers in that country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 disgusting my heart and soul for the atheists , secularists and freethinkers in that country Obviously that's half of the country, mainly western part and the big cities... but Anatolia is big... Sad, sad, sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazz Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Obviously that's half of the country, mainly western part and the big cities... but Anatolia is big... Sad, sad, sad... Trump is blessing this dictatorship erdogan is giving away islands to Greece and there is a project for Armenia he is clearly a puppet for the West .... a rabid dog for them to be more precise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Turkey blocked Wikipedia today disgusting my heart and soul for the atheists , secularists and freethinkers in that country Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Completely insane Turkey's president threatens more strikes against Kurdish forces; a week after Ankara’s warplanes bombed Kurdish positions in Syria and Iraq, including US-allied fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazz Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Alot of ppl are considering the killer of the Russlan embassador in turkey is a hero this is so sick and inhuman 😨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elijah Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Nice surprise. European Turkish Trace, Istanbul, Izmir have always been pro European, pro democracy, more liberal (relatively), so I wouldn't say its unexpected. Great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 4/18/2017 at 1:56 AM, LSD said: He prolly wanted to know his secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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