Gabriel Ciccone Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I think Madame X will finally pass the 70's score on metacritic. Rebel Heart almost did it. I want a +80 score, but some reviews are bringing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Ciccone Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I notice many reviews can't describe some songs, like Faz Gostoso. One said it's samba, Anitta told it was a funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gabriel Ciccone said: I notice many reviews can't describe some songs, like Faz Gostoso. One said it's samba, Anitta told it was a funk. It’s even funnier with Crazy. We’ve seen that one referred to as upbeat, trap, a mid tempo soul ballad, and trip hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Waiting for the onslaught of reviews that should be coming in. Any minute now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Also, why has a "critical reception" subcategory not been added to Madame X's Wikipedia page yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 It’s interesting how little self awareness so many people have. To even write the sentence “Although minimally talented, she rose to the top with sheer ambition and by picking the right collaborators” seems like the most tired tact a critic could take, and frankly it’s been tired for twenty five years. And yet they continue to write it, feeling the need to somehow explain their love of her music. So damn odd. I mean David Bowie couldn’t technically sing well (I LOVE him btw) yet is considered a vocal genius. Sexist much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudet Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shane said: It’s interesting how little self awareness so many people have. To even write the sentence “Although minimally talented, she rose to the top with sheer ambition and by picking the right collaborators” seems like the most tired tact a critic could take, and frankly it’s been tired for twenty five years. And yet they continue to write it, feeling the need to somehow explain their love of her music. So damn odd. I mean David Bowie couldn’t technically sing well (I LOVE him btw) yet is considered a vocal genius. Sexist much? Love/loved him too, and I agree. The usual shitty double-standards. Gonna write it again: Madonna should be sanctified, not defecated upon. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesky Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Shane said: It’s even funnier with Crazy. We’ve seen that one referred to as upbeat, trap, a mid tempo soul ballad, and trip hop. One of them called Crave country-influenced lol It's shocking to me how poorly these reviews (whether they're positive or mixed) are written. Some of the British ones read like they were written in a foreign language and then translated into English or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danmacevents Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cesky said: One of them called Crave country-influenced lol It's shocking to me how poorly these reviews (whether they're positive or mixed) are written. Some of the British ones read like they were written in a foreign language and then translated into English or something. They probably heard the album, had a few drinks forgot about it and typenot up late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yououghttavogue Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, fandonna said: Times UK, The Sun and Daily Mirror are not counted. ugh how dissapointing. three of the best scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yououghttavogue Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Shaun said: Also, why has a "critical reception" subcategory not been added to Madame X's Wikipedia page yet? Usually that comes with the Metacritic score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Shane said: It’s interesting how little self awareness so many people have. To even write the sentence “Although minimally talented, she rose to the top with sheer ambition and by picking the right collaborators” seems like the most tired tact a critic could take, and frankly it’s been tired for twenty five years. And yet they continue to write it, feeling the need to somehow explain their love of her music. So damn odd. I mean David Bowie couldn’t technically sing well (I LOVE him btw) yet is considered a vocal genius. Sexist much? O'h, the back handed compliments, the way they love to say she only made it through ambition and picking collaborators - makes my blood boil. Same with saying fans love her because she is a "great business women " Infuriates me no end. Madonna has ALWAYS been a great talent. She has great musicality and talent. I did not follow Madonna and stay a fan of hers since 1984 because she had limited talent. Would not waste my time. Her music, videos, performances are music heaven and she is insanely talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Jazzy Jan said: O'h, the back handed compliments, the way they love to say she only made it through ambition and picking collaborators - makes my blood boil. Same with saying fans love her because she is a "great business women " Infuriates me no end. Madonna has ALWAYS been a great talent. She has great musicality and talent. I did not follow Madonna and stay a fan of hers since 1984 because she had limited talent. Would not waste my time. Her music, videos, performances are music heaven and she is insanely talented. Amen! I used to say in disgust “yes I love her and buy her music because she is such a great businesswoman.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side_streets Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Shane said: Amen! I used to say in disgust “yes I love her and buy her music because she is such a great businesswoman.” Me too! She is the best singer among businesswomen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrolla Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 That is what is stupid, 99 percent of the time I listen to her music on Spotify because I like her songs, I don't think about her controversies or watch music videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrolla Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I think it does genuinely confuse some reviewers that she's still recording music at 60 when she's already so rich and successful. She must have a passion for it. Like most of her children even play instruments and she says she has a very musical household. I think some people think she just walks into a studio every four years or so throws down some vocals and doesn't have much involvement in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizotaviobarros Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 It’s funny how they’re having trouble pinning some of the songs down to specific genres. Which is a good sign, I think. We must be in for a unique listening experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, luizotaviobarros said: It’s funny how they’re having trouble pinning some of the songs down to specific genres. Which is a good sign, I think. We must be in for a unique listening experience This. Especially with Medellín. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt420 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Shane said: It’s interesting how little self awareness so many people have. To even write the sentence “Although minimally talented, she rose to the top with sheer ambition and by picking the right collaborators” seems like the most tired tact a critic could take, and frankly it’s been tired for twenty five years. And yet they continue to write it, feeling the need to somehow explain their love of her music. So damn odd. I mean David Bowie couldn’t technically sing well (I LOVE him btw) yet is considered a vocal genius. Sexist much? Like there's "shame" showing unapologetic love to a "pop star" so a certain amount of nitpicking must take place......even if it's obvious the person is grasping at straws or playing to a tired, disproven (time and time again) narrative that she's "not that talented". Someone around here made the comparison to Hillary Clinton recently and I think that's a great way to put it tqqh. Not saying everything Madonna has done is perfect but there are certain untrue narratives that have become "fact" over the years in regard to her and people simply believe them without even questioning it or really even fully understanding why. I LOVE Bowie and his voice but to call him a vocal genius is a huge stretch.....it's certainly a unique and distinctive voice but Sinatra he's not.....same can be said of Jagger, Dylan and so many others that seem to be unquestionably "worshipped". Men singing "rock" music will always get a pass though for their voices because "they rock". I've always said Madonna is a rock star that just happens to do "pop songs" and in my opinion that's where people tend to go wrong in their approach to her. They always like to compare her with other "divas" that are all about "the voice" or basic pop girls that want to please their audience and just be "sexy" and sing cute little pop ditties and Madonna has NEVER been about any of that. Preaching to the choir here but Madonna doesn't do what she does because she thinks she's an amazing singer or because she thinks she's sooooo hot and sexy, she does it so she can have a huge platform to say what she wants to say. Perhaps if people could grasp that, their whole approach to reviewing her would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geiger83 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Gabriel Ciccone said: I notice many reviews can't describe some songs, like Faz Gostoso. One said it's samba, Anitta told it was a funk. It is probably brasilian funk inspired as Anitta originally is a funk singer and the original song is a funk. People are deaf because samba (which has many different variations) has absolutely nothing to do with Brazilian funk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Gabriel Ciccone said: I notice many reviews can't describe some songs, like Faz Gostoso. One said it's samba, Anitta told it was a funk. The only realistic description was made by The Guardian's reviewer, who described it as "somewhere between baile funk and Angolan kuduro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The Daily Star published a generally positive track-by-track review: Medellín (with Maluma) Medellín's psychedelic groove works great as an introduction to what's to come. Strap in... 8/10 Dark Ballet Madonna's very own Bohemian Rhapsody. A mad, brilliant epic which veers from dubstep to classical. 9/10 God Control A total pop banger, it's essentially a sequel to her classic hit Vogue. 10/10 Future (with Quavo) A weird choice to perform at Eurovision, Future is easily the worst song. The beat goes nowhere and Migos rapper Quavo just sounds bored. 4/10 Batuka Her most convincing hip-hop groove. At 61, she's still learning new moves. 9/10 Killers Who Are Partying The most controversial song, she states "I'll be..." Africa, Islam, poor and Israel. It'll need a few plays to work out what the song's message really is... Expect a social media war. 7/10 Crave (with Swae Lee) Madonna and Swae Lee flirt over a heartfelt acoustic backdrop. 7/10 Crazy Could be by anyone. A forgettable filler track. 5/10 Come Alive A similar drum attack to Batuka, it's Madonna in attack mode as she snarls: "Who are you talking to?" It turns into a dreamy waltz to stay alive. 8/10 Extreme Occident Crashing pianos, Indian percussion and rare drama as Madonna sings about doubting herself. 8/10 Faz Gostoso (feat. Anitta) An epic trance tune which features some hypnotic chanting. 9/10 Bitch I'm Loca (feat. Maluma) Madonna and Maluma trade lines over a hypnotic groove. 8/10 I Don't Search I Find Along with God Control, the album's other slice of perfect vintage Madonna disco. 10/10 Looking for Mercy Another soaring ballad but it's more basic than Crave and goes on too long. 6/10 I Rise A stadium ballad, you can almost smell the smoke machines. 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo208 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Seriously no US reviews yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samo Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Rolling Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said: O'h, the back handed compliments, the way they love to say she only made it through ambition and picking collaborators - makes my blood boil. Same with saying fans love her because she is a "great business women " Infuriates me no end. Madonna has ALWAYS been a great talent. She has great musicality and talent. I did not follow Madonna and stay a fan of hers since 1984 because she had limited talent. Would not waste my time. Her music, videos, performances are music heaven and she is insanely talented. Amen It really baffles me that after 36 years some idiots are still writing up that nonsense. When in fact to her fans she was a mega talent from day one. Marketing or self marketing do not robotic ally and automatically guarantee anyone to have the dedicated and loyal following Madonna has garnered, expanded and maintained over the course of almost four decades. It's just utter stupidity When you look at her first major transition alone, from her first two albums to her third studio album with accompanying first worldwide stadium tour it is obvious how much talent she has as a singer, dancer, visual artist, songwriter and the knack for penning perfect pop hooks as a co-producer on her entire discography, as attested by so many industry professionals Then again some moronic, dull and pretentious Italian journalists still have the audacity of pretending Madonna is not her birth name but a stage name for self-aggrandizing purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Samo said: Rolling Stone But its an absurd review! The fuckers raved about the album then gave it 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side_streets Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, elijah said: But its an absurd review! The fuckers raved about the album then gave it 3. I like the album, but it's Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubtronic Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Saw these at madonnatribes instagram with the hastag new york times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 https://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Kultur/Uebersicht/Madame-X-besser-als-nix-Alles-ueber-das-neue-Album-von-Madonna2 Horrible German review. saying she is no longer relevant. Hope a German member would translate it... Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, elijah said: https://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Kultur/Uebersicht/Madame-X-besser-als-nix-Alles-ueber-das-neue-Album-von-Madonna2 Horrible German review. saying she is no longer relevant. Hope a German member would translate it... Or not. using google translate, I dont think it's a horrible review.. but they spent half of it complaining about Eurovision and autotune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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