ryan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ugg, this is happening all too soon, I haven't even finished paying off my credit card yet! Fuck! Gotta work weekends now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal1974 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 an insider on Popjustice said she's booked for Glasgow Please let this be true, but not October as I am away on holiday for all of October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The Glasgow arena is one of the busiest so I bet they booked that first to secure dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapertje Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Amsterdam Ziggodome is only possible second half of october, after the first weekend of november till mid november and the beginning of december! Fingers crossed, cause I booked a trip to Florida at Thanksgiving.... nooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelheart Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I cannot believe Australia looks like missing out again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I cannot believe Australia looks like missing out again? Why can you not believe it? She has only ever toured Australia once, and that was over 20 years ago. Given the evidence before you from the past twenty years or so, it is far more likely for her to skip Australia than go to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Fetus Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm sure that she will go to Australia, Asia and SA in January 2016. There's no way that she will only tour from August to December in a DWT itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunterlas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I cannot believe Australia looks like missing out again? The tour hasnt even been announced and we gonna start with this bullshit already?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 an insider on Popjustice said she's booked for Glasgow It's about fuckin time. Tho I'll still believe it when I see it (EVERY Live Nation artist does go there tho I've noticed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelheart Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm sure that she will go to Australia, Asia and SA in January 2016. There's no way that she will only tour from August to December in a DWT itinerary. I hope so, January/February next year is our last chance now before the stadiums become unavailable & the weather begins to turn cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberto77rj Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 She will tour EVERYWHERE!!!! 2 legs! S&S will be second best selling tour by a female artist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael. Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I find it funny we still debate which cities she will tour. She will tour the same ones she has for the past 5 tours with maybe a few small changes. Unless she tours Australia first I doubt she'll come here. They might pull another MDNAT and "plan" to come but ultimately pull out at the last minute. I can't imagine a second leg either really. She's only done that once and she's said many times she doesn't like being on the road for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 how is the dollar in australia? the economy etc? i hope she breaks this tour in two parts, this year, another next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thank fuck they have decided to tour Europe in the autumn and she'll play arenas in the UK. The outside shows were awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael. Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 how is the dollar in australia? the economy etc? i hope she breaks this tour in two parts, this year, another next year! It has nothing to do with the dollar because during MDNAT the AUD was trading higher than the USD I believe or it was almost at parity. The dollar excuse came about during DWT when it was $1.00AUD/$0.65USD. During RIT it was because the children were too young. During CT it was because we didn't have stadiums to support the "tonnage" of her stage. I don't believe S&S had an excuse, especially since most people expected the second leg to include Australia. She trolled us hard though when she released the itinerary and it was mainly the same markets she toured on the first leg. I believe this was when she gave us the written statement apologising for not coming and that she would definitely come on the next tour. For MDNAT it was because Lola was leaving home and going off to college so she wanted to spend time with her. That time we got the recorded message saying she was sorry but her children come first etc. I think the reason she doesn't want to come here is because she'd have to do a lot of shows for the tour to make money like she does in the U.S./EU. Australia is bigger than the entire European continent and only has a few cities really worth playing in. She'd realistically need to spend 2-3 weeks here playing shows and I just don't see that being worth her time sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why can you not believe it? She has only ever toured Australia once, and that was over 20 years ago. Given the evidence before you from the past twenty years or so, it is far more likely for her to skip Australia than go to it. Exactly! *Opens envelope at the 1998 Oscars announcing My Heart Will Go On as the winner* "What a shocker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 For MDNAT it was because Lola was leaving home and going off to college so she wanted to spend time with her. That time we got the recorded message saying she was sorry but her children come first etc. I never believed that to be the reason she cancelled the australian leg of the tour...i think she realised it was too much for her, the show was incredibly demanding and she had never toured for so long without a break... This time i think she'll skip South America and go for Australia...just my humble opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavenHigh Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Best scenario is that she tours 3-4 months this year, then takes a break and in a year from now she does the second leg which would be South America/Australasia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Forget holding your breath for Australia people. See all you Aussie's at opening night in LA this August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 how is the dollar in australia? the economy etc? i hope she breaks this tour in two parts, this year, another next year! the dollar has plummeted in the last couple of months. But the exporters are totes happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It has nothing to do with the dollar because during MDNAT the AUD was trading higher than the USD I believe or it was almost at parity. The dollar excuse came about during DWT when it was $1.00AUD/$0.65USD. During RIT it was because the children were too young. During CT it was because we didn't have stadiums to support the "tonnage" of her stage. I don't believe S&S had an excuse, especially since most people expected the second leg to include Australia. She trolled us hard though when she released the itinerary and it was mainly the same markets she toured on the first leg. I believe this was when she gave us the written statement apologising for not coming and that she would definitely come on the next tour. For MDNAT it was because Lola was leaving home and going off to college so she wanted to spend time with her. That time we got the recorded message saying she was sorry but her children come first etc. I think the reason she doesn't want to come here is because she'd have to do a lot of shows for the tour to make money like she does in the U.S./EU. Australia is bigger than the entire European continent and only has a few cities really worth playing in. She'd realistically need to spend 2-3 weeks here playing shows and I just don't see that being worth her time sadly. Actually, the Australian dollar was trading at below $US0.50 during the DWT - its lowest point in history. No one was touring here back then - it just wasn't economically viable. It was during Confessions that we got the written apology. She told Richard Wilkins (or maybe it was Molly Meldrum) that if the tour reached Japan, she'd come to Australia, but that didn't eventuate. Guy Oseary told me as late as early July 2006 that they were still hoping to make Australia happen, but it was proving to be difficult. Given what we know now, it might have been Madonna herself who was the sticking point, since she (quite rightly) wanted to be at home for when her kids started school. For Sticky & Sweet, she was supposed to be here in January 2009, but the promoter pulled out. Apparently, Madonna was willing and able to come here, but ultimately, none of the Australian promoters were willing to bring the show here for the fee that Madonna wanted. There was a lot of argument at the time that she should have lowered her fee so that the promoters would back her financially, but really, why should she agree to be paid less if every other country was prepared to pay the asking price? Dates were confirmed for MDNA, but Madonna didn't want to be on the road during January 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thank you Carta for all your insight, the info really is appreciated and respect to all my fellow Aussies. But I'm wondering if it would be best to keep the Australian tour snub dramas out of this tour thread and its in own separate Aussie thread? We want to keep this thread positive as the excitement builds and the "will she or won't she" reoccurring Australian melodrama will probably just end in tears again. It's not worth anyone holding their breath for imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I was surprised to see that old topic raise its head yet again in here, but couldn't resist responding to others' posts (I should have, though!). I think it's inevitable that any discussion of potential destinations is going to include a discussion of Australia, but yes, it would be wise to ignore history in here to keep the thread positive, agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I was surprised to see that old topic raise its head yet again in here, but couldn't resist responding to others' posts (I should have, though!). I think it's inevitable that any discussion of potential destinations is going to include a discussion of Australia, but yes, it would be wise to ignore history in here to keep the thread positive, agreed! I just don't want to think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Despite the past - for some reason I am optimistic about Australia being included on the tour this time. I'm expecting it. The thing to bear in mind with predictions is the fact that today from a business point of view it is all about touring and concert ticket sales. I felt strongly that there would be a tour this year despite speculation there might not be - and that tickets would go on sale around either album release date or some other big promotional event. I think it is also fair to predict that this tour will be lengthy and include as many stops as is deemed profitable. That's how it is now. Everything builds towards selling concert tickets. Everything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 At this point, she should really just fly the Aussies out to Europe or USA for the show. The logistics seem to play a big part as much as her decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 well why not a soceer field in India? i think there was a problem with the poor venue quality? i wish she would do new markets!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunterlas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Despite the past - for some reason I am optimistic about Australia being included on the tour this time. I'm expecting it. The thing to bear in mind with predictions is the fact that today from a business point of view it is all about touring and concert ticket sales. I felt strongly that there would be a tour this year despite speculation there might not be - and that tickets would go on sale around either album release date or some other big promotional event. I think it is also fair to predict that this tour will be lengthy and include as many stops as is deemed profitable. That's how it is now. Everything builds towards selling concert tickets. Everything!!! Yes. Line by line. Word by word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le smoking Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 So apparently the tour may be in the round???!!!! Which is one of the reasons why she's doing arenas and not stadiums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunterlas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 ^ "apparently" according to whom?!? There are many reasons to do arenas this time. Doubt a round stage is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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