Flip The Switch Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I bought the cd today in tesco uk. They only had the double! Number 1 in their chart. Listened to it. Can't hear the problems posted on here! Perfect! Just put it on my iPod with it's so cool that I downloaded today! Loving it! Let's make it number 1! Spread the word!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mightycomfort Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I am going to say it again! 1 million in the uk by Christmas! I'll buy at least 5 of them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I wonder if the people are hearing Hollywood with headphones? That's the only way to catch American Life's ending. I had my head phones on. Great head phones too. Bose! Don't hear the fade of American Life's ending. The birds are the first I hear. You're creating a very big and negative buzz about something that "normal" fans would not have noticed. It's like finding a man with a clock in Spartacus and declaring that it's the worst film ever just because of that. Isn't that sad Mfan? In fact, a lot of people commenting on this, haven't heard it for themselves. And while, I don't think Mattress intended to cause a "negative buzz", he certainly has done so. Like you said, even if the mistakes were there, they aren't really going to be something that would be greatly detected by the majority. My theory is if you're passing up this collection based on what Mattress wrote, you probably were not going to buy it in the first place, or looking for a excuse. I just don't buy a die hard fan would pass this up. But of course, I am thinking from my perspective. And I don't try to look for the worse in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj: Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I love Celebration, it's such a huge compilation and it doesnt sound bad at all! Maybe some die-hard fans will notice some changes, but most people wont notice any at all. I only noticed the Erotica strange editing, but nothing major. The rest was just fine and the old songs sound really great, actually! I bought it from iTunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 are we getting a vinyl version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 Here and elsewhere, others noticed and wrote of many of the issues individual of and prior to my post. Consumers are noticing errors on their own physical copies of this release. I didn't embark on an internet-wide campaign to bash Celebration. What I posted was not a proper review for major publication. It wasn't even an amazon.com review. After years months of speculation, I posted only here [and on The Other Shore, an extension of this forum] a list for fans still interested in what made it onto the audio portion of the 2CD set, inclusive of major and minor, um, quirks. You're left to decide if these things are of importance to you. It's irrelevant who does or doesn't hear them and who does or doesn't care. The range of issues are present on many copies and have been checked for accuracy. Do not shoot the messenger. I have as much a right to post here as any other member, and others taking an entry intended for this forum and putting it elsewhere online is out of my control. Regarding those who have decided against purchasing this release, any "negative buzz" is generated by those who assembled the CD and by those who failed to enforce a higher standard for quality control prior to manufacture. I'm not responsible as one of several fans who pointed them out. And allow me to quote myself from several days ago: As in any other situation, people should be making their own decisions. No one is taking a defiant stance in doing so. I simply sought to post a list of details regarding the contents of Celebration. I enjoy and respect Madonna's body of work. If at times I seem a little passionate about its preservation, it's only because of that respect. That's not something to fault a fan for. I will be purchasing the US pressings for all three items the week of release. As with anything I purchase, I will review them in their entirety and if there are technical problems with the discs, including those consistent with the issues present on the international pressings, then I will be contacting the label's customer service department. I encourage others to do so as well. Very often they will investigate issues such as these and offer replacement discs once the errors have been corrected. As posted earlier, this very label recently had to correct New Order's entire remastered discography. The packaging is stunning, possibly her best ever, but at the heart of this release is the music. I meant it when I said I feel it's a shame that some of the editing on Celebration has been handled haphazardly and that the mastering is not quite the 'exquisite' upgrade we were promised, but I would never want to detract from another fans enjoyment and that was never my intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 All hail Mattress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dicktracy Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Mattress, it's not your fault. You stated your case. If people decided to not buy the CD without even listening to it for themselves then let them be SHEEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Mattress - as I said, I'm sure you didn't intend for this to happen (in fact, I *know* you didn't). I was just pointing out that your detailed analysis of the collection (track by track, word for word, copied and pasted) is all over the net and people have actually said that based on what you wrote, they will *not* be buying the compilation. It's in at least four different forums and it's also being forwarded around the world as an email. The irony is that you've always intended to buy the CDs yourself (and will do so)! It's definitely not your fault (obviously). It's a huge shame, though, that other than the members of this forum, no one else knows what else you've said about it (the "judge for yourself" comments etc.). I'm sorry if you thought I was trying to paint you in a negative light - I was just bringing the situation to your attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dicktracy Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Dress You Up and Material Girl sound amazing!! Lucky Star's new version so much better than the TIC version (those not buying the CD may want to at least buy this version). Holiday, Like A Prayer and Into the Groove are perfect. And I love that the Everybody edit doesn't butcher the c'mons in the beginning. Can't hear any problems with Music. Express Yourself is awkward by I can live with it. Erotica sounds good HOWEVER that ridiculous error at 3:30 is shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thanks Mattress - I was going to pick up the double CD but given the SHODDINESS of the compilation I'll just download the essential tracks. Even in the new phase of her career as a heritage act Madonna's product is MESSY to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeMo Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Great now Mattress has to apologize for actually being perceptive and knowing his shit. I guess in this Madonna era EVERY COPY COUNTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 And while, I don't think Mattress intended to cause a "negative buzz", he certainly has done so. Let me guess, you will be blaming Mattress if it's not a huge success? He just posted the FACTS. Any "negative buzz" is the fault of the people who produced the CD, it wouldn't have gone unnoticed by the hardcore fans if Mattress said nothing. Personally, I already bought the CD and enjoyed it, loved the sequencing of the tracks. I really don't care if the CD does well (makes no difference to my life), but I don't think a thread on a Madonna internet forum is going to have much if any impact on how the album does. Oh and I will be replacing certain tracks on my itunes with better versions because I don't really want jumpy versions of Erotica, Cherish, Music etc. Who would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I had my head phones on. Great head phones too. Bose! Don't hear the fade of American Life's ending. The birds are the first I hear. mine neither... my speakers is in full blast already, it's definitely not the one from American Life album that they used... i listened to the AL album in between AL and H... it's clearly different, I am with you on this one neut... and for Express Yourself, I can remember hearing this version... I know they have this Video Version that I use to see on MTV where they use an album-like intro then mixed with the TIC version... and the cut in between was the way it was in the video that I saw 20 years ago... I remember it quite well and being disappointed with it as well for I love the part that was cut off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Erotica sounds good HOWEVER that ridiculous error at 3:30 is shameful. I agree, this is the ultimate and shameless editing error of this compilation... as for DYU, they intended to do that, but I am just wondering, for what? spare 2-3 secs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hard pedro Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I bought a copy here in Brazil, and there's the same errors, including the one in Music... a shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Oh and I will be replacing certain tracks on my itunes with better versions because I don't really want jumpy versions of Erotica, Cherish, Music etc. Who would? agree... the booklet is the saving grace of this mishandled compilation... i like the picture discs as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroco Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 BTW - much prefer the edit of 4M. Makes me actually like the song. Agree the Erotica mess up around 3min 30 sec is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ditaluver Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I only hear birds in Hollywood as well. I played it over and over on my headphones and never could pick up the end of AL. the only issue Im having is with Erotica and the lyrics problem in Cherish. Express Y is sort of awkward but I can see past that. Revolver needs to be much louder, for christ sakes, PDP is louder. Finally saw some promo posters in NY. Im looking forward to my purchase! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 in the most important shop chain of spain,El corte inglés, they have the double album and a very few of the other one, it´s logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 celebration - its absolute perfection. by far her best compilation. im really sorry for those who arent going to give this a chance. youre fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I only hear birds in Hollywood as well. I played it over and over on my headphones and never could pick up the end of AL. the only issue Im having is with Erotica and the lyrics problem in Cherish. Express Y is sort of awkward but I can see past that. Revolver needs to be much louder, for christ sakes, PDP is louder. Finally saw some promo posters in NY. Im looking forward to my purchase! me too. im cool with the whole thing. i love everything about it. the tracklisting, even some of the mixes/edits. i laugh at the beginning of express yourself. that ZHOOOOOOOOOOOOO sound. great way to exit warner. i really hope they continue to distribute her even when she goes over to live nation. what other record company has pushed an artist so late in their career that their last 4 albums go NUMBER ONE internationally, simultaneously in 38-43 countries!!!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 p.s. love the beginning of dress you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickens Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 BTW - much prefer the edit of 4M. Makes me actually like the song. I totally agree, and I will be glad to have the edit in CD form, finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 ...and Pud's blatant damage control rolls on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Ever since I saw the title of this thread I've been singing "Come join the party.......IT'S A RETARDATION" to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj: Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 i really hope they continue to distribute her even when she goes over to live nation. what other record company has pushed an artist so late in their career that their last 4 albums go NUMBER ONE internationally, simultaneously in 38-43 countries!!!???? Exactly, people complain too much. It's a great compilation, one of the best ever, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 ...and Pud's blatant damage control rolls on... no, not at all. in fact, i cant believe how utterly wrong you were in your assessment. or maybe your fast draw inaccurate review had me expecting the worst. i was very disappointed when i read your review becausei was looking very forward to this. so i was pleasantly (and thankfully) surprised and others will be too. i really couldnt have asked for a better greatest hits. xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 i really couldnt have asked for a better greatest hits. Same here!!! ALL the complaints about the selected songs in the past 2 months was wrong IMO. This tracklist is BEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I'm sorry Pud but Mattress wasn't inaccuarate at all.Music is fucked up, and Erotica too.Revolver, as we know, is another fucked up song on it.The same goes for the Holltwood intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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