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New war in Europe, courtesy of Putin


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2 hours ago, promise to try said:

it´s weird, because I have also read the opposite, that he wants a sease of fire...it´s so difficult to know what´s happening nowadays

I don't think that a ceacefire is possible because that requires admission of defeat from Zelenski given the fact that Russia now controls a large part of Ukraine

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On 5/17/2023 at 12:02 PM, Raider of the lost Ark said:

Have normal Russian people experienced an hardships? Well, except for having to live in this rotten state. 

They're so used to living in and being treated like shit by their government. And they're very obedient and will continue to keep their head bowed down to their Kremlin leader, brainwashed or not.

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14 hours ago, promise to try said:

it´s weird, because I have also read the opposite, that he wants a sease of fire...it´s so difficult to know what´s happening nowadays

It's all a simulation of goodwill from Putin part. Afterwards he'll be saying "Look, i tried to make peace and stop useless bloodshed but Zelenski refused and chose to continue putting on the line the lives of many innocent people".

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On 5/17/2023 at 8:55 PM, karbatal said:

I understand. But sanctions against the well being of population have never worked. There is not a single example of success. Cuba, Iran, Venezuela…. People suffering poverty and the regime is still there. Sanctions against Russia should be against oligarchs and those funding Putin.

 

Right. Or just go further back and open any history book on Napoleon‘s sanctions against Great Britain. It backfired badly.

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am I the only one that thinks that the west will sign a pact with Puttin, and that we are going to leave Ukraine alone? or even worse, that we are going to let Puttin do all the dirty job, and later we are all going to scrumble Ukraine between EU-USA-Russia?

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On 5/27/2024 at 11:01 PM, Kilt said:

It's all a simulation of goodwill from Putin part. Afterwards he'll be saying "Look, i tried to make peace and stop useless bloodshed but Zelenski refused and chose to continue putting on the line the lives of many innocent people".

That's kind of an absurd position when you have invaded another sovereign country, whose territory now you are ocuping. At present, no-one cares what Putin says, because no-one believe what he says.

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On 5/27/2024 at 10:39 AM, sotos8 said:

I don't think that a ceacefire is possible because that requires admission of defeat from Zelenski given the fact that Russia now controls a large part of Ukraine

Its not just that: I mean whose president wont get crucified for giving up 20 percent of a country's territory through "peaceful" negotiations? Also, this could very well be a ceasefire so that RU gets some years to recuperate and then invade another part of Ukraine and/or other Eastern European country?

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The Russian air attacks in broad daylight to hospitals is absolutely disgusting.

Horrifying I wish we would all just stand up to Putin once and for all!

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On 6/12/2024 at 6:59 AM, promise to try said:

am I the only one that thinks that the west will sign a pact with Puttin, and that we are going to leave Ukraine alone? or even worse, that we are going to let Puttin do all the dirty job, and later we are all going to scrumble Ukraine between EU-USA-Russia?

 I doubt that.

NATO are all standing firm against Putin and it continues to send more rounds of military weapons are being sent in to fight him.

I think this will only end when someone wins.

Russia will either take Ukraine fully or Putin will withdraw.

I think it will drag on until this happens. 

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4 hours ago, Confessit said:

NATO membership for Ukraine could happen by the end of the year 

not if trump wins, it seems...

anyways, I think it´s not a wise idea to have all those countries that have borders with Russia being in the nATo.I get why putin is not happy with that. Is like having the USSR having its misils in Cuba or Mexico, the USA wouldn´t be happy with that.

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