karbatal Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, horn said: I guess you've got your answer. Sorry, I am dense today. I don't understand what you mean. Media I'm seeing is reporting on the racist murder, the useless behaviour of Trump, the protests... Black people having a positive image. What else is missing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horn Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, karbatal said: Sorry, I am dense today. I don't understand what you mean. Media I'm seeing is reporting on the racist murder, the useless behaviour of Trump, the protests... Black people having a positive image. What else is missing? They send national guards in just 1 day of protest. Just look at how merciless these national guards are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, horn said: They send national guards in just 1 day of protest. Just look at how merciless these national guards are. I thought. you were referring to the media coverage. Anyway, we both agree. about the other things Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I've just seen in Twitter this video... I am so appalled And only a couple of weeks ago, those white supremacist were carrying guns and entering government buildings and nobody even touch them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Junior Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 The Whole Foods store I work at in downtown Manhattan had a couple windows cracked last night but it fared better than other stores nearby. A CVS store close by had all of its windows completely smashed. An Adidas store and North Face store nearby were looted. If there’s rioting again tonight hopefully I’m out of work before then! ETA: They’re letting us leave a couple hours early tonight. Most of the businesses in the area are boarding up their windows today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtzlplk Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 The four policemen idiots were already fired and charged for murder, what else do they want? They torch and loot stores, what for? Did they ever think of ordinary people working on those stores who will lose days of income because of what they did? These rallyists are being infiltrated by destabilizers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nikki Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 that's weird... at first I thought it was deliberate, but he was honking a long time almost as if to warn that he couldn't break. idk what to make of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eroticerotic Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I don't think George Floyd would have wanted black businesses, black cops, or black cities to be harmed, caught in the crossfires. Apparently also in Dallas, there was a stack of bricks neatly placed on pallets for protestors to use? The focus needs to go back to why racism still exists and towards putting those cops in jail for murder, and also what can be done to remove cops like that from service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 hours ago, mtzlplk said: The four policemen idiots were already fired and charged for murder, what else do they want? They torch and loot stores, what for? Did they ever think of ordinary people working on those stores who will lose days of income because of what they did? These rallyists are being infiltrated by destabilizers. Are you nuts? Are you aware that today or tomorrow another person will be murdered by sheer racist fear as so many before? Gay rights wouldn't started being considered until some brave women and men started rioting. Well in fact HUMAN RIGHTS didn't start until brave French started a revolution. Enough with the mild society. Frankly, that's the reason why we all are poorer and out labour rights are going to the pits. Because we're asleep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 hours ago, eroticerotic said: I don't think George Floyd would have wanted black businesses, black cops, or black cities to be harmed, caught in the crossfires. Apparently also in Dallas, there was a stack of bricks neatly placed on pallets for protestors to use? The focus needs to go back to why racism still exists and towards putting those cops in jail for murder, and also what can be done to remove cops like that from service. If I were killed by racist policemen I would want the world to burn. He is DEAD. He can no longer ever fulfill any dream. Do you think he would care of an Adidas store? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaz Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, karbatal said: If I were killed by racist policemen I would want the world to burn. Get some help. Really. You should not want peaceful people to suffer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jaz said: Get some help. Really. You would be so content and satisfied, it seems. Maybe you need help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaz Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I would never want the world to burn for the horrific actions of one person. You want the WORLD TO BURN. YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS. SICK. Justice needs to be served. Not the World To Burn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaz said: I would never want the world to burn for the horrific actions of one person. You want the WORLD TO BURN. YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS. SICK. Justice needs to be served. Not the World To Burn. I have wanted for 10 years the world to burn and make a revolution because this society is going to the pits since nobody moved. I am the proud son of a worker who turned cars down and used fire to get better working rights. I would do the same. Understood? No leave me alone because I don't know who you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Ugh these newbies being woke... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kim Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jaz said: I would never want the world to burn for the horrific actions of one person. You want the WORLD TO BURN. YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS. SICK. Justice needs to be served. Not the World To Burn. The world IS burning bub. What are YOU doing to stop it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaz Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, karbatal said: Ugh these newbies being woke... Been on this forum longer than you. Unless you were here before Dotmusic days, which I doubt. Also, maybe you didn't mean you supported literal fires. I hope not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nonoka Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 15 hours ago, mtzlplk said: The four policemen idiots were already fired and charged for murder, what else do they want? They torch and loot stores, what for? Did they ever think of ordinary people working on those stores who will lose days of income because of what they did? These rallyists are being infiltrated by destabilizers. Yes, I agree with you on that point. Again, as with many recent issues, it seems to me like many are only thinking in black or white patterns. It's either "You must totally support all forms of protests" or the exact opposite. Sorry, but what does any of this in the below clips have to do with fighting against racial inequality? Protesting a crime by committing a crime yourself, as robbery and theft clearly is? And it's not just the big chain stores that got robbed and looted, as clearly seen here. Again, what does destroying the property - and in many cases therefore the livelihood - of innocent people have to do with protesting the actual issues that are at hand? Having said that, it should be noted that the majority of people are not acting like this, as with most protests in recent years (also from what I've observed here in Europe), it's the minority consisting of anarchists and criminal looters, who often latch on any protest so they can act out these things without having to fear condemnation. There are plenty of clips over social media proving majority of protests are not looking like this (as with the videos posted above by other members). I fully support everyone standing up and marching against the systemic racism and police brutality, and I understand a certain extent of chaos and rioting is to be expected in huge protests like these, but people who are responsible for producing scenes like these above, I will never support. Sorry, not sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaz Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Kim said: The world IS burning bub. What are YOU doing to stop it? You don't know me, but I love your posts. I just don't think that burning shit helps things. Is that crazy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jaz said: Been on this forum longer than you. Unless you were here before Dotmusic days, which I doubt. Also, maybe you didn't mean you supported literal fires. I hope not. You enjoy your 40 hours working week because some people filled the streets with blood. I wish labour fight were thought in schools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaz Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I wish you the best (being honest). You don't know me or my work (or lack of). I still wish you the best. I won't reply to you again in this thread. I hope you can find peace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genevieve Vavance Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I was waiting for something like that to happen for a long time, the power of the PEOPLE enought with social injustice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jaz said: I wish you the best (being honest). You don't know me or my work (or lack of). I still wish you the best. I won't reply to you again in this thread. I hope you can find peace. Thanks for your kind words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karbatal Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Genevieve Vavance said: I was waiting for something like that to happen for a long time, the power of the PEOPLE enought with social injustice The elites live absolutely scared of masses. They know that it's about time there's another revolution. I don't know when it will be, but it'll happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Junior Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 15 hours ago, mtzlplk said: The four policemen idiots were already fired and charged for murder, what else do they want? They torch and loot stores, what for? Did they ever think of ordinary people working on those stores who will lose days of income because of what they did? These rallyists are being infiltrated by destabilizers. This is far more than just George Floyd. That’s just the the tip of the iceberg. The numerous cases of police brutality and racism recently and which has been going on since like...forever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genevieve Vavance Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, karbatal said: The elites live absolutely scared of masses. They know that it's about time there's another revolution. I don't know when it will be, but it'll happen. Trump will be Louis XVI and Melanomia Marie Antoinette Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lasky Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Revisiting this important interview which Anderson Cooper interviewed Madonna back in 2013... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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