Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, karbatal said: This. I imagined you nicer. I never said a PR team will control what she says on instagram. Anyone who has been a fan of hers for more than 5 minutes knows better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: I imagined you nicer. I never said a PR team will control what she says on instagram. Anyone who has been a fan of hers for more than 5 minutes knows better. Well I do wonder how she spoils her own PR then.according to you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 The only reason why Madonna may be affected by her Instagram is because other accounts are hyper controlled and used as a promotional tool. And because we live in a era when everyone seems to be offended by someone. A new PR is wonderful to grant positive media and to move things in sync. Not to control accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: I imagined you nicer. I never said a PR team will control what she says on instagram. Anyone who has been a fan of hers for more than 5 minutes knows better. Omg don't be so sensitive, it's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, karbatal said: Well I do wonder how she spoils her own PR then.according to you.. Well simply put she does and says things that piss people off and then the media call her "thirsty" for attention. This is of course nothing new and used to work to her advantage but not so much recently. Non-fans just don't get her and only see the negative media and see her as desperate now. After her publicist retired, Madonna took full control of her image and statements and in my opinion this was not good for her. She was of course always free to say and do what she wanted but it is a fact that after her publicist left, things did't go so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbyebyebaby Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, karbatal said: Well I do wonder how she spoils her own PR then.according to you.. Were you not around in 2018? The Carters Louvre picture, the VMAs speech, the 99 people in a room. Those are just a few things and thats just in 2018. Not to mention calling David the "N" word and the Prince tribute in recent years. That is spoiling your own PR. Its just a fact and doesnt make you a bad fan to admit it. She doesnt have the best news presence. The media and haters loves to drag her down but a lot of that can be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, runa said: Omg don't be so sensitive, it's just ridiculous. Yeah I am overly sensitive, ridiculous and delusional it seems. I hope there is a pill for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said: Were you not around in 2018? The Carters Louvre picture, the VMAs speech, the 99 people in a room. Those are just a few things and thats just in 2018. Not to mention calling David the "N" word and the Prince tribute in recent years. That is spoiling your own PR. Its just a fact and doesnt make you a bad fan to admit it. She doesnt have the best news presence. The media and haters loves to drag her down but a lot of that can be avoided. Sorry but if the world has turned into an absurd place where everybody is offended I don't want Madonna to shut up or change. It's true though that there's a need of positive feedback and surely that's where the new PR team can work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: Well simply put she does and says things that piss people off and then the media call her "thirsty" for attention. This is of course nothing new and used to work to her advantage but not so much recently. Non-fans just don't get her and only see the negative media and see her as desperate now. After her publicist retired, Madonna took full control of her image and statements and in my opinion this was not good for her. She was of course always free to say and do what she wanted but it is a fact that after her publicist left, things did't go so well. Let's hope that she can keep being herself and the new PR team helps bringing the positive. This new era will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said: Were you not around in 2018? The Carters Louvre picture, the VMAs speech, the 99 people in a room. Those are just a few things and thats just in 2018. Not to mention calling David the "N" word and the Prince tribute in recent years. That is spoiling your own PR. Its just a fact and doesnt make you a bad fan to admit it. She doesnt have the best news presence. The media and haters loves to drag her down but a lot of that can be avoided. she never called david the n word. please, let's not make mistakes about that. Im with your sentiment though.. maybe this pr team will help avoid unneeded out of context or misunderstood drama she didnt intent to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyricky Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Bat-Fan said: Well simply put she does and says things that piss people off and then the media call her "thirsty" for attention. This is of course nothing new and used to work to her advantage but not so much recently. Non-fans just don't get her and only see the negative media and see her as desperate now. After her publicist retired, Madonna took full control of her image and statements and in my opinion this was not good for her. She was of course always free to say and do what she wanted but it is a fact that after her publicist left, things did't go so well. they just dont get her but will follow her instagram and hate on her lol ...so i guess madonna is doing something right ...in her mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbyebyebaby Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nikki said: she never called david the n word. please, let's not make mistakes about that. Im with your sentiment though.. maybe this pr team will help avoid unneeded out of context or misunderstood drama she didnt intent to happen Sorry I meant Rocco and of course the more "common" form of the word. Anyway 2019 is shaping up to be a great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyricky Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 the people who hate on her hate on her anyway whats worrying is that they stalk her instagram so if she says something or posts something that can be deemed something racist or anything her haters will jump on the bandwagon to try and bring her down ..they fail ....i cant stand stefani but would i stalk her instagram and throw abuse at her personally on instagram ..no i just hope madonna does not read the comments some of them are pretty disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, trickyricky said: they just dont get her but will follow her instagram and hate on her lol ...so i guess madonna is doing something right ...in her mind They do follow her and and comment in the most nasty way possible, it is sad to say the least, I dont know if M sees it as her doing something right or not but I just hope in the new era people will be more open to her and yes... get her. Anyway I am super excited for this era and I have a good feeling about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systemvalues Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: They do follow her and and comment in the most nasty way possible, it is sad to say the least, I dont know if M sees it as her doing something right or not but I just hope in the new era people will be more open to her and yes... get her. Anyway I am super excited for this era and I have a good feeling about it. I don't get your point.. if " you" are hated and insulted whatever you say or do, what are you supposed to do? Asking people how to live, think and speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-queen Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, trickyricky said: the people who hate on her hate on her anyway whats worrying is that they stalk her instagram so if she says something or posts something that can be deemed something racist or anything her haters will jump on the bandwagon to try and bring her down ..they fail ....i cant stand stefani but would i stalk her instagram and throw abuse at her personally on instagram ..no i just hope madonna does not read the comments some of them are pretty disgusting She’s put up with some kind of opposition all her life now. This wouldn’t phase her that much at all. She’s still going to do what she’s going to do. The love of the fans is greater than the hate of haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Honestly, it has always been like that. In the 80's, the 90's... always. A PR company won't control what dumbass write on social media. That's not why they're hired. There will always have awful comments no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, systemvalues said: I don't get your point.. if " you" are hated and insulted whatever you say or do, what are you supposed to do? Asking people how to live, think and speak? I guess I am hoping she isnt hated or insulted "no matter what she says". But I am guessing alot of this hate comes from other fanbases, like Gaga, so maybe that will never change. Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Targaryen Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Next year is gonna be hard for Madonna. Year 9, end of a cycle.. I wish she would've launced the album this year. But we'll see how it goes. Anything is possible.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Dany Targaryen said: Next year is gonna be hard for Madonna. Year 9, end of a cycle.. I wish she would've launced the album this year. But we'll see how it goes. Anything is possible.. Sorry but... I can't with these superstitions. Imagine having to go though the already too complicated life and thinking "is this the ninth year of the cycle?". And who decided when a cycle stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Some "fans" already not getting Madonna and being deluded in Facebook: " One of the first steps they should take is to completely reset her social media profiles, remove all posts and start over with only professionally shot images and perhaps some personal story posts. I do appreciate the fact that she wants to freely express herself through a social media platform but her badly written posts with low quality random images and bad punctuation/spelling which aren’t really helping her public image that much. Also, those random bathroom selfies and kids and random objects posts better be reserved for Instagram stories than main posts.” Why don't they follow Kylie if they want a pristine and BORING Instagram????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, karbatal said: Some "fans" already not getting Madonna and being deluded in Facebook: " One of the first steps they should take is to completely reset her social media profiles, remove all posts and start over with only professionally shot images and perhaps some personal story posts. I do appreciate the fact that she wants to freely express herself through a social media platform but her badly written posts with low quality random images and bad punctuation/spelling which aren’t really helping her public image that much. Also, those random bathroom selfies and kids and random objects posts better be reserved for Instagram stories than main posts.” Why don't they follow Kylie if they want a pristine and BORING Instagram????? I agree 100000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idro Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, runa said: Honestly, it has always been like that. In the 80's, the 90's... always. A PR company won't control what dumbass write on social media. That's not why they're hired. There will always have awful comments no matter what. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eu4ria Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Pish posh yada yada jk All this news is fun and a great way to bring in the new year. and love hearing about the video director, very interesting choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: I agree 100000% I know. Sorry that I misunderstood you before. I should have read your post more properly. Or are you agreeing with the Facebook post??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, karbatal said: I know. Sorry that I misunderstood you before. I should have read your post more properly. Or are you agreeing with the Facebook post??? I am agreeing with you ☺ I am sorry I am not very good at contstructing my comments, I am not very good at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyricky Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Bat-Fan said: They do follow her and and comment in the most nasty way possible, it is sad to say the least, I dont know if M sees it as her doing something right or not but I just hope in the new era people will be more open to her and yes... get her. Anyway I am super excited for this era and I have a good feeling about it. does it really matter if they are not ...fuck them .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said: I am agreeing with you ☺ I am sorry I am not very good at contstructing my comments, I am not very good at this. I think it's me, I was watching Jason Momoa's Instagram and can't think properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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systemvalues Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Bat-Fan said: I guess I am hoping she isnt hated or insulted "no matter what she says". But I am guessing alot of this hate comes from other fanbases, like Gaga, so maybe that will never change. Time will tell I agree with you on the second part of your sentence.. I don't think M has ever pursued the universal approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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