loomer Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Didn't know she wanted to be on it. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Whitney was an original, but I think allmusic.com has Madonna down as one of her influences, as does Mariah.. they emerged at exactly the same time and her and Mimi's uptempo fare could resemble Madonna (although she certainly didn't invent dance pop or was ground breaking musically when she first came out). Here are two fabulous predecessors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbYVz1wAIsU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Beyonce "deeply involved in the creative process" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 ACTUALLY! ya'll are wrong, myself included prior, lol, but this was the true rule breaker and saw past the bullshit of her time...right until she was old...even when she adopted her rainbow babies... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4kG79YpUQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I love Josephine. And I never expect a topic to stay on ever. But the black madonna comes after madonna. Not before. There are elements everywhere!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Awesome! Love that song. Somebody post Karyn White next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Killer Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Beyonce is the only one that can be compared to Madonna. Charismatic performer, deeply involved in the creative process, a true worldwide household name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 yes, started as a dancer on soul train. then Shalamar. involved in fashion, had street cred. so much, in fact, i believe she was the only american(?) invited to Band Aid Do They Know Its Christmas. Kool and the Gang were there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt420 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm telling you all, it was Cheyne! Apparently, her song Call Me Mr. Telephone started getting heavy spins by DJ Mark Kamins at Danceteria. The video was filmed at Danceteria and featured some regulars....much like Everybody. The songs biggest success was on the Dance chart. Plus she even sounds like Madonna and she sported a semi ragamuffin kind of image as well. It's all about Queen Cheyne! Madonna HAD to step up her game in 1985 because of Ebony Queen Cheyne!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'm telling you all, it was Cheyne! Apparently, her song Call Me Mr. Telephone started getting heavy spins by DJ Mark Kamins at Danceteria. The video was filmed at Danceteria and featured some regulars....much like Everybody. The songs biggest success was on the Dance chart. Plus she even sounds like Madonna and she sported a semi ragamuffin kind of image as well. It's all about Queen Cheyne! Madonna HAD to step up her game in 1985 because of Ebony Queen Cheyne!!! Yup and Cheyne was poised to be the black Madonna and did Into the Groove with Kamins before Madonna snatched it back off her. She's now a country singer living in London. She was a little snippy to me on youtube, insisting that she didn't like dance music and liked "real music" like The Clash and Los Lobos, as if I hadn't heard what "real music" was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hahahahahahah You're nuts. (Though i had the same fight with David Was after he said nasty things during Superbowl and i had to point out it all came from her not wanting "Shake your head" to be released with her vocals. He said that it did not matter since it was a worldwide smash and i had to show him the receipts : it was like top 20 in Japan. He stopped the conversation right there) It was massive in the UK at the time. Wasn't it a hit in the US? It still gets played and is regarded as a nineties classic here. As for Black Madonna... JW had zero career in the UK apart from a couple of minor hits so it's JJ that's closest in terms of output. I know JJ isn't popular here but she is had a great run in the UK in comparison to many other artists. I know Whitney was probably more successful but she was more of a one trick pony where as a least Janet could mime and dance! Grace Jones is more avant garde I would say. oh yeah and I forgot this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Anyone citing Cheyne must think horribly of madonna. Nobody knows who she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Beyaki being creative im dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Anyone citing Cheyne must think horribly of madonna. Nobody knows who she is. Doesn't everyone know her here only because she was meant to be given Into The Groove but M kept it for herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Doesn't everyone know her here only because she was meant to be given Into The Groove but M kept it for herself? yeah exactly. when i say The Black Madonna i would think people would choose someone with some popularity. some influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Call Me Mr Telephone is pretty cool tho, #1 on the all important club chart. It's very Madonna-esque as kurt said. It's actually a cover of an Italo disco song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Adina Howard got some Madonna comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Minnie Ripperton. Madonna has stolen much from her with very little credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Minnie Ripperton. Madonna has stolen much from her with very little credit.Ivy, you are a scream. Minnie Ripperton 😂😆So funny as I only heard her on the kitchen radio at work last week and was singing along to Loving you is easy cause you're beautiful. Luckily for me, nobody else heard me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamazooJay Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Why is it so hard for Madonna fans to recognize Janet Jackson in any way, shape, or form? Regardless of your personal opinion she had a huge presence on the radio, Mtv, and in pop culture in general. You ask any r&b star that's currently out there, Beyoncé, Rhianna, Ciara, and they'll say Madonna & Janet were a huge influence on them. So, I say Janet. Hands down. Donna Sunmer and Grace Jones are iconic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHakaLH Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Why is it so hard for Madonna fans to recognize Janet Jackson in any way, shape, or form? Regardless of your personal opinion she had a huge presence on the radio, Mtv, and in pop culture in general. You ask any r&b star that's currently out there, Beyoncé, Rhianna, Ciara, and they'll say Madonna & Janet were a huge influence on them. So, I say Janet. Hands down. Donna Sunmer and Grace Jones are iconic as well. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonoka Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Hillary Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IsaacHarris Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 In terms of longevity & impact on style/ trends/ culture, I'd have to say Mary J Blige. What M is to POP, Mary is to R&B/ Hip Hop; she's essentially become the template for the younger bitches that came after her in that genre (Keyshia Cole, Faith Evans, Aaliyah, SWV, Total, Kelly Price, Ciara, K Michelle, Missy Elliot, post-1999 J.Lo & Mariah, etc.) And like Madonna, she gets better with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaron Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Niki Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerGirl Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Kanye West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Maxine Nightingale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eroticerotic Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think Whitney no? I feel like there were articles about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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