Dannylex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I know. I can read. And I still don't like it.That doesn't make him a dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 ok, this doesn´t suprise me coming from Mike Tyson, he´s not known for his huge culture, sensitivity and intelligence. Actually, what surpises me is madonna having him on her album,I mwan, didn´t he hit her wife back in the day??? and saying that hityler /musollinni were charismatic, is like saying that OJ Simpson had a huge control of his body movements chill out. he didn't say anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systemvalues Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I agree with you..he didn't endorse them..and being charismatic and being good people are 2 different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkspur Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 You know I have often wondered how so many people can be so mislead by people with evil intentions. Some people do have the ability to have great influence over people. Whether they choose to use that ability for the betterment of the world or desctruction of it is the choice that comes from what is inside their heart. The ability to persuade and influence people in itself is neutral as far as what is right and wrong. On the surface and responding quickly I can say "wtf talking about Mussolini?!?" and I am certainly hard pressed to discuss what someone else believes to be a kind of abilty he had but we do have to understand how so many people can be so taken in. I know really nothing about Mike Tyson or why this is pertinent to the theme of the album but will wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glindathegood Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 You know I have often wondered how so many people can be so mislead by people with evil intentions. Some people do have the ability to have great influence over people. Whether they choose to use that ability for the betterment of the world or desctruction of it is the choice that comes from what is inside their heart. The ability to persuade and influence people in itself is neutral as far as what is right and wrong. On the surface and responding quickly I can say "wtf talking about Mussolini?!?" and I am certainly hard pressed to discuss what someone else believes to be a kind of abilty he had but we do have to understand how so many people can be so taken in. I know really nothing about Mike Tyson or why this is pertinent to the theme of the album but will wait and see. I guess it's like those religious cult leaders you read about. They say things that are utterly ridiculous, but they get so many otherwise intelligent people to believe them and follow them and do insane things like move away from all their friends and family to some commune and even have sex with the cult leader. It's all because they have this amazing charisma and people become so entranced and they stop thinking for themselves and become blind followers. I guess the point is as you said if you have that special charisma and rhetorical speaking ability you have to be really responsible and use it for the good for the world and to help people not destroy them. Or maybe it's encouraging people to always think for themselves and not be tricked by some charismatic person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I agree with you..he didn't endorse them..and being charismatic and being good people are 2 different thingshe didn't hit robyn gibbens??and I don't think he has said something that is not true,but it's not appropiate.and madonna knows who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systemvalues Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I didn't defend his behaviour.. I just tried to "look" at what he said about mussolini in the interview.. Madonna is attracted by boxers..he loves Alì..maybe he called Tyson because he is the nearest thing to Cassius Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallbagsAtDawn Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I can't wait to hear Mike's beautiful speaking voice on the song! Lol that's what I was thinking - what the hell!! We'll just have to wait and see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I didn't defend his behaviour.. I just tried to "look" at what he said about mussolini in the interview.. Madonna is attracted by boxers..he loves Alì..maybe he called Tyson because he is the nearest thing to Cassius Clay M loves monster cocks. That's the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The strangest thing to me is that out of all the possible models of charisma in world history he chose a dictator as his inspiration for a rap/adlib on a Madonna record. I mean what the fuck? Not only dictators and mass murderers are charismatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 It's dangerous, and I could see us returning to Salem witch trial behavior, but ironically caused this time by liberals and overly pc policing instead of bigotry and conservatism! BOOM. This is what I've been saying. We've basically already returned to this behavior...if anything, we never left it. Someone is always having the finger pointed at them for bullshit reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 M loves monster cocks. That's the reason. bahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallino89 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Tyson told that he was inspired to Mussolini during the recording session with Madonna... what the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 BOOM. This is what I've been saying. We've basically already returned to this behavior...if anything, we never left it. Someone is always having the finger pointed at them for bullshit reasons. its becoming increasingly rediculous by the minute. social media just made even eazier to spread the hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I just watched his 2008 Doco. Interesting guy with many demons. I'm more curious than concerned to hear his contribution after watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boki_D Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm surprised she would include a convicted rapist on her track.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXIII Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Can Mike Tyson not learn from his crime and past and better himself as a person? Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm surprised she would include a convicted rapist on her track.... 5 post of bullshit. Proud of yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moka Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 5 post of bullshit. Proud of yourself? You're right, this is probably another ugly monster undercover. I say : FLUSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qans1990 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I know. I can read. And I still don't like it. I understand what MerGirl is saying... she didn't twist what Tyson said or question his right to say it, just voiced that she didn't like his choice of a model of Iconic-ness. That's obviously her right to feel and express. I think the below post sums it up best. The strangest thing to me is that out of all the possible models of charisma in world history he chose a dictator as his inspiration for a rap/adlib on a Madonna record. I mean what the fuck? Not only dictators and mass murderers are charismatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollap Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm surprised she would include a convicted rapist on her track.... *Dickhead alert* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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