Cindystime Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2720046/Madonna-ruthless-diva-Michael-Jackson-weak-Manager-Ron-Weisner-biggest-pop-stars-planet.html I wonder what Madonna's side of the story is. A lot of people have said this guy was a known alcoholic, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeMySoul Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This is an old story. There was a thread about it a month or so ago. Daily Mail yet again dragging up old stories about Madonna as per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindystime Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Pop Music Gadfly says there is another side to the story between the two: http://www.****adfly.com/2014/08/10/truth-manager-ron-weisner-madonna/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Weisner says that once Michael launched his solo career he became like a surrogate parent to the superstar, accompanying him on trips to Disneyland and pandering to his every whim, including once being dragged out of bed to go to watch Liberace perform. Madonna was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The fucking idiot thing is SO M though. Remember when she went OFF on those smoking queens at her sound check? "Like I'm a stupid fucking idiot" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasteinmen Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 ^lol that made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 That shoot is when that lion tried to eat her Of course she's a bitch. That's why she's never become a victim to vultures. People are too scared to fuck with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 madonna told this guy where to go and he's never forgotten it...resentful fuck she has her side - is it cuz the crew didnt do their jobs properly. or was she just being the boss of the entire show, cuz u know, she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le smoking Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 idg why there are so many reports on her being a bitch on the set of LAV. Shouldn't she have been nice to the crew, knowing that this was the song/video that would really catapult her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloane Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 madonna told this guy where to go and he's never forgotten it...resentful fuck... That's what I think, too. It does reek of bitterness. M's a bitch, let's face it, but it really does seem to be amplified bc she's a woman. Just my hunch. You can't tell me guys are ruthless and ambitious too, but we don't hear about that. He also shot himself in the foot when he called George Michael a "huge talent" and that Michael wanted to be white bc he hated his father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeAPrayer Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I think it says something that Freddy was willing to stick with Madonna for years, and was willing to walk away himself from this business partner he had known pre-Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Give her a break, I think it is well documented that Madonna has her period during that time. Maybe she wasn't feeling good and was under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 There's a lion trying to eat her. Shut the fuck up Ron Eisner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Well he kind of suggests she was like that in general but that she was extra cunty on that occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Mary Lambert: "They told us, if anyone had their period the lion would eat them...this was an all women crew...'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Honestly, if Madonna was a man, people would NEVER make a huge deal out of it. But no, since she's a woman in control, people act as if she's the devil Of course she's a bit of a bitch, so what? It helped her career and a LOT of artists are like that, Madonna is far from being the only one. But no, she's a woman and more importantly: she's Madonna. So people are bashing her over the littlest things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 she did work with Mary Lambert again, didn't she? If M was so horrible, I don't think that would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shine Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 As she said it herself back then, she was known as a difficult artist after all : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Coffin Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 ^^Amazing video! Thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 As she said it herself back then, she was known as a difficult artist after all : She looks so beautiful. Great footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whatatramp Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMoody Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I love reading stories like this....to quote Luis in Truth or Dare: "She can be mean sometimes, I mean, we all can. I love it when she's mean." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 AWESOME GIF :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Pop Music Gadfly says there is another side to the story between the two: http://www.****adfly.com/2014/08/10/truth-manager-ron-weisner-madonna/ Great article! Everyone should read this. As for this, when she says difficult artist, isn't it in terms of what to do with her as Nile Rogers said warners didn't know what to do with her and didn't think she'd be a hit. . As she said it herself back then, she was known as a difficult artist after all : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 what do you mean? i thought nile rodgers said he swore her album with him would sell millions (way more than they thought) and he was right.. i think he (and most people in the business) always thought she'd be a hit from the moment they met her because she has "it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 what do you mean? i thought nile rodgers said he swore her album with him would sell millions (way more than they thought) and he was right.. i think he (and most people in the business) always thought she'd be a hit from the moment they met her because she has "it". Nikki, I think maybe they were talking about Madonna when she was first signed to Sire records. Seymour Stein adored her from the start but the bosses at Warner were unsure as she was seen as more of a dance act and at that time music with more of a rock type style was popular - ie Pat Benatar and Blondie. They did not even put her pictures on her record covers and get her to do promotion initially. Which they now admit was a massive mistake as visually she was so appealing and charismatic. When Mary Lambert was chosen to direct Borderline, she did not know what Madonna looked like. She said when she met her, she was so stunning and had cat-like eyes. Warners did not have instant faith in Madonna and she was considered by them a "low-priority" artist. Unbelievable to think of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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