karbatal Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 So Madonna was impressed with Andre Betts (my fav parts of Erotica are his works, instead of Pettibone's ones) and wanted to follow that direction for Bedtime Stories. It seems that the situation forced to look for well known producers and hit makers and the result was a SUPERB album, in my opinon. But i always wondered how would have Madonna sounded in 1994 with Andre Betts and just found an album that he composed and produced in 1993. The girl is Carole Davis and it's pure magic. Classy, beautiful, some whispered songs, some 'talked' songs... I can clearly imagine Madonna singing some of these, instead of, for example, 'I'd Rather Be Your Lover' or 'Don't Stop". http://youtu.be/xF-ppO1Qm5Y
nimos Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Maybe I'm in the minority, but I was never a big fan of his tracks on Erotica, in the context of the album. I think it would have been a better album, and not overlong as it as, without them, as the change of style is too jarring. Although it would have been nice to hear the songs as part of another project perhaps...
elijah Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 love this, reminds me a little bit of Enigma. Cool. Though I dont see it as being a smash, but it would ve been better transition to ROL...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 His songs are my fave ones! Love his work!
Mattress Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 "Secret Garden" and "Waiting" are fantastic. The contrast between his jazzy, hip hop tracks and Shep's dance and pop balladry keeps the album interesting.
ryan Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Were they supposed to work together for BS? I'm confused... Anyway, he's stuff was the best of Erotica, he brought out a different side of M we had never saw. It's a shame cause Shep had the majority of the spotlight for that album and era. We never really heard much about the recording process with Andre and M, or I just haven't came across any articles from that time yet...
vocalism Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 ^ I've never heard anything about that, but I've said it would have been great a couple of times on here, including in some thread yesterday or the day before.
HolidayGuy Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Erotica may have been stronger, overall, with more Betts tracks. But, it is what it is. I would have liked to see more work with him.
Mad_On_Her Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I thought Bedtime Stories initially was meant to be another Pettibone collaboration. I don't remember hearing anything Betts being involved in it.
karbatal Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 I read in Nightshade's timeline that she was into following the path that she had explored with Bett: more r'n'b, ""I started writing this album with Shep," she explains, "but I felt like I was writing the same kind of music over and over again. I was more interested in going back to the music that I originally started with which is R & B." "May 2: Reports say that Madonna’s work with Babyface and Dallas Austin continues the vein of hiphop and R&B that she experimented with on Erotica with André Betts" But i guess i read a bit more further and assumed that she didn't call Betts because he was too unknown or less commercial than she needed.
realityisalways Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Where Life Begins, Waiting and Secret Garden are top notch. Waiting is a masterpiece IMO. Andre Betts gave the Erotica album a soul.
Nightshade Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I read in Nightshade's timeline that she was into following the path that she had explored with Bett: more r'n'b, ""I started writing this album with Shep," she explains, "but I felt like I was writing the same kind of music over and over again. I was more interested in going back to the music that I originally started with which is R & B." "May 2: Reports say that Madonna’s work with Babyface and Dallas Austin continues the vein of hiphop and R&B that she experimented with on Erotica with André Betts" But i guess i read a bit more further and assumed that she didn't call Betts because he was too unknown or less commercial than she needed. Yeah, I think she enjoyed working with Betts but after the career crisis that followed Erotica, I agree...she probably thought she needed a more commercially appealing sound. You can see a similar strategy that followed American Life.
San Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Where Life Begins, Waiting and Secret Garden are top notch. Waiting is a masterpiece IMO. Andre Betts gave the Erotica album a soul. I love all of these! In fact Secret Garden is one of my most favourite songs...it's beautiful!Erotica is my favourite album!
DIRTY PIG Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Secret Garden and Waiting are the two best songs on the album for me.
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 HIS TRACKS ARE THE STAND-OUTS OF A MAGNIFICIENT ALBUM (WELL...THE ABSOLUTE BESTS ARE EROTICA AND DEEPER AND DEEPER, BUT STILL...), BUT A WHOLE BETTS ALBUM I DUNNO....
VogueMusic Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 If he's still making music, I'd love to see them work together again. As said above, his work on Erotica gives the album soul (not to say Shep's work didn't). Amazing work. My favorite Madonna album.
runa Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 with Bad Girl, WAITING is my favorite song on Erotica.
vocalism Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 "Secret Garden" is my favorite song on the album. "Erotica" sort of feels like an Andre Betts track too.
realityisalways Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Yeah, I think she enjoyed working with Betts but after the career crisis that followed Erotica, I agree...she probably thought she needed a more commercially appealing sound. You can see a similar strategy that followed American Life. Does that mean that she will try to go even more commercial after MDNA?
karbatal Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 It's no the same case. MDNA was not a flop as big as Erotica o AL, because she went from hero to zero in both cases, and in MDNA case she went from meh to whatevah
horn Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I like "Secret Garden" but having an entire album full of Secret Garden?! No thanks.
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 It's no the same case. MDNA was not a flop as big as Erotica o AL, because she went from hero to zero in both cases, and in MDNA case she went from meh to whatevah
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 This flop thread is made even funnier by the comments made about Shep producing Waiting in the other thread.
karbatal Posted January 10, 2014 Author Posted January 10, 2014 with Bad Girl, WAITING is my favorite song on Erotica. Waiting is maybe one of my all time favs!
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