Nightshade Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I don't hate 4 Minutes but it's right up there with Me Against The Music in terms of "PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME I AM RELEVANT I SWEAR" ... and that's evident in the music since Madonna is pretty much a footnote on her own song. It was Justin Timberlake and Timbaland's song let's face it. Madonna's still using other stars to draw in youthful people - she is doing it with GMAYL. I agree that "4 Minutes" definitely has the Timbo sound, but I think it is a pretty strong hit single to lead off an album with. It just sounds huge. "Hung Up" was huge in Europe and "4 Minutes" was huge in America. I am not sure that GMAYL is going to be huge in either place. It doesn't feel like an epic song to me. We can go back and forth on this all day. I realize most people in here don't like "4 Minutes" so I'm not going to convince anyone, but "GMAYL" just doesn't feel like a strong lead single to me.
Ai Papi Si. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Madonna's still using other stars to draw in youthful people - she is doing it with GMAYL. I agree that "4 Minutes" definitely has the Timbo sound, but I think it is a pretty strong hit single to lead off an album with. It just sounds huge. "Hung Up" was huge in Europe and "4 Minutes" was huge in America. I am not sure that GMAYL is going to be huge in either place. It doesn't feel like an epic song to me. We can go back and forth on this all day. I realize most people in here don't like "4 Minutes" so I'm not going to convince anyone, but "GMAYL" just doesn't feel like a strong lead single to me. Oh i never denied that GMAYL has the same star power to help it - HOWEVER, flop or not, it's Madonna's song and Nicki Minaj and MIA barely feature 10 seconds between them. The song feels more like a Madonna song and I like it when she succeeds - or flops - on her own merit. 4 Minutes just feels like someone else's song and no one really calls it a classic at this point. if GMAYL did well (it may not but oh well) I think it would definitely be remembered as a MADONNA song.
Supernatural Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 GMAYL at least makes sense, since it wouldn't have worked at all alone- cheerleader chanting and all- I guess she could have asked Jody Watley and Taylor Dayne instead of todays young stars...
TRVC Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Oh i never denied that GMAYL has the same star power to help it - HOWEVER, flop or not, it's Madonna's song and Nicki Minaj and MIA barely feature 10 seconds between them. The song feels more like a Madonna song and I like it when she succeeds - or flops - on her own merit. 4 Minutes just feels like someone else's song and no one really calls it a classic at this point. if GMAYL did well (it may not but oh well) I think it would definitely be remembered as a MADONNA song. alright 12:51, this thread isn't gonna go the way anyone wants it to, so you should close it too LOL
Ai Papi Si. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I closed Tiger's thread becuz it was a disaster. Try not to cry or flap your wrists too much Trevquisha!
loowee Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 4 Minutes was a better lead single while GMAYL is a better song. That's it.
Ai Papi Si. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 4 Minutes was a better lead single while GMAYL is a better song. That's it. I agree. Not a popular sentiment, but I agree.
Nightshade Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 What a wonderful thread of opinions and not truths.
loowee Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I feel like GMAYL isn't supposed to be taken seriously - it's nothing more than a fun and cheeky song that tells the world that Madonna is back. I can imagine fans still listening to this cute little record in 2020 while 4 Minutes will be remembered as a Justin/Timbaland song featuring M-DULLa. I'm not here for that reductive Timbaland production with those cringe-worthy lyrics.
Ai Papi Si. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 You're gonna love MDNA Lampshade. GMAYL will just be a blip on your radar, trust.
ryan Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 4 Minutes isn't too far off from a typical Madonna song. Yea, "typical Madonna" and 4 Minutes shouldn't go in the same sentence, but Madonna is known for her hooks and baselines. She's a master at creating pop songs, and 4 minutes has that. You can't deny that the beat is somewhat sick. And lyrically, it's all up Madonna's alley. We know she's been working x amount of years to create the right "social awareness" song (History, Keep The Trance, It's So Cool, Hey Poop) I think what killed 4 Minutes was that it was a JT collab, and the hard Timbaland beats. It hasn't aged well at all, and the reception among fans certainly played a big role on that. I do love GMAYL. It's upbeat, positive, catchy, different, that breakdown is phenomenal and the bass just loves to shake up the room. It does have that classic Madonna quality to it, but it's missing something. It's missing that oomph like other Madonna songs, I can't really explain it though. It needs a co-production credit by WO. The production doesnt sound completed imo.
Nightshade Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 You're gonna love MDNA Lampshade. GMAYL will just be a blip on your radar, trust. My hat is off to you, 12:51. And yeah, I am pretty sure MDNA will still rock my socks off. I don't dislike "GMAYL" the same way I loathed "American Life" as a lead single, so things aren't that bad.
Starman Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Also while 4M brought the best work timbaland could do GMAYL is weak comparing to Hello/ ready 2 go and others solveig tracks
GregVsMatt Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I closed Tiger's thread becuz it was a disaster. In hindsight I agree I meant well but should have waited a few months.
GregVsMatt Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I'm excited about the album, the covers alone will attract buyers
horn Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Oh i never denied that GMAYL has the same star power to help it - HOWEVER, flop or not, it's Madonna's song and Nicki Minaj and MIA barely feature 10 seconds between them. The song feels more like a Madonna song and I like it when she succeeds - or flops - on her own merit. 4 Minutes just feels like someone else's song and no one really calls it a classic at this point. if GMAYL did well (it may not but oh well) I think it would definitely be remembered as a MADONNA song. THIS
Vetiver Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 No one has commented on the Solveig interview ... wich is the other song that was intended to be lead single?? TUTR??
SkyHigh76 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Madonna's still using other stars to draw in youthful people - she is doing it with GMAYL. I agree that "4 Minutes" definitely has the Timbo sound, but I think it is a pretty strong hit single to lead off an album with. It just sounds huge. "Hung Up" was huge in Europe and "4 Minutes" was huge in America. I am not sure that GMAYL is going to be huge in either place. It doesn't feel like an epic song to me. We can go back and forth on this all day. I realize most people in here don't like "4 Minutes" so I'm not going to convince anyone, but "GMAYL" just doesn't feel like a strong lead single to me. I agree."4 Minutes" was a much better 'first single' than GMAYL.It has a BIG,aggressive sound that was tailor-made for radio.I like GMAYL but I can see why it's not having the same commercial impact.
Case39 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I agree."4 Minutes" was a much better 'first single' than GMAYL.It has a BIG,aggressive sound that was tailor-made for radio.I like GMAYL but I can see why it's not having the same commercial impact. I totally agree
Nessie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 None of those singles are iconic enough. End of story.
Narendra Sen Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I loved 4 Minutes from the 1st time I heard it. I agree with what NS and SH76 said. I can't say the same thing about GMAYL. Sure, the song is supposed to be fun, superficial ect but something is missing. The video is so amazing but it can't hide the fact that the song is just mediocre, especially for Madonna's standards. And don't even get me started on the lyrics I couldn't care less about chart positions and I know the quality doesn't matter when we're talking about #1s, but let's face it, the song is not going anywhere near the top spot, especially when Clarkson's Stronger is around. No wonder that song kept Luvin' from reaching the 1st position on iTunes; I would've bought it too. People buy shit music, yes, but they also happen to buy good music from time to time, otherwise Vadge wouldn't have 12 #1s.
Mensch Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Madonnarama.com posted a clip of Nicky Romero's remix of GMAYL ...it sounds promising.
jonski43 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Madonnarama.com posted a clip of Nicky Romero's remix of GMAYL ...it sounds promising. I can never get on their site now
Mensch Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I can never get on their site now It's alive clip, but I like it. Check this link
runaway Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Ow.... NOW Everybody Loves 4 Minutes.. Ok. Right. Next.
GregVsMatt Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 It's alive clip, but I like it. Check this link love it
iasonas Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 The floppage of the song around the world is quite embarrassing! It is at no45 in Australia and at no40 in the UK to name a few! Only in North America it's doing something. But even in the US where we had the payola, huge billboards even in rural Nebraska and Alabama and the Super Bowl, it is out of the top10 on i-tunes already. Even in third world eastern european countries where even her fart can hit no1 the song is bombing. I haven't met a single person who likes it. 4 minutes might not have been what us fags like but it was a killer track and it hit no1 around the world. Hung Up was a killer too.
Guest bluejean Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I hope there's a more electro remix that keeps the original tempo.
Monkey Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 The floppage of the song around the world is quite embarrassing! It is at no45 in Australia and at no40 in the UK to name a few! Only in North America it's doing something. But even in the US where we had the payola, huge billboards even in rural Nebraska and Alabama and the Super Bowl, it is out of the top10 on i-tunes already. Even in third world eastern european countries where even her fart can hit no1 the song is bombing. I haven't met a single person who likes it. 4 minutes might not have been what us fags like but it was a killer track and it hit no1 around the world. Hung Up was a killer too. This
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