HolidayGuy Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The other discussion thread (that started as a poll on who was going to get the DVD) has vanisahed (or maybe it was merged into something else). Anyhow, I've now watched the entire DVD. What a ride. And pretty great quality, contrary to other reports (it really must have been an Euro thing). What is clear- and something that M even has owned up to- is that overall, she is not as into making videos as she once was. Watching "Hollywood" through "Celebration" showcases that. How many clips has frolicked on the floor (and ended up there at video's end)? "4 Minutes" was a better effort, but even it pales in comparison to her classic clips- there's just something unsettling about watching M gyrate about and having those "glamour shots" that just about every other video contains (the flesh-eating virus theme at least somewhat separated it from other videos). Even the fact that the majority of the last 10 clips are pretty pedestrian doesn't detract from the delicious glory of watching her cream-of-the-crop clips (even including the soundtrack ones), and revling in her incomprable output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I remember in 1991 or so when she did that infamous interview with TV Guide (where she bashed Evansville, Indiana), she said that Prince's latest videos [at the time] were "lazy" - or something to that effect. It's funny how the same can be said of her now. She does have some real pieces of art on this compilation though. I am still grateful to have them all in one package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Interesting you mention Prince. Overall, his videos were cheap. There are no real epic videos of his equivalent to Like A Prayer, Express Yourself or Bedtime Story and some are just downright awful. Alphabet St looks like it was made in a 'make your own pop video' booth at a fair. Cream and Gett Off were quite impressive but his output pales into insignificance to Madonna's. Overall, budgets have been slashed on videos but that shouldn't stop creativity. Hollywood is a great video (to a V. average song). Hung Up and Sorry were themed well but since then her videos have just become more generic. She has a fantastic body of work that will stand the test of time. Better than Jackson's bloated affairs. I'm hoping now she will take a year off and come back with a storming video, single and album. I just think she needs to rest and find some new inspiration and people to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_On_Her Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The current videos look laughable in comparison to the classics. Im surprised that warners included so many newer lazy videos with the wonderful classics makes them look even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What is clear- and something that M even has owned up to- is that overall, she is not as into making videos as she once was Unless it's a back drop for the tour when they're largely upto her usual standard. I still ain't bought this and won't until the NTSC issue is addressed by Warners. It's such a shame that the whole project is a mess because she'll never have an enduring, staple seller that emcompasses her entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renee205 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 This had never been mentioned in the last thread about the video collection but I gotta give it up to Warner's for a really very good remastering of the audio for these collection. Every synth every chimes and bells are heard distinctly. The depth in the sound is really so fucking good. Worth buying really...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Essentuial clips like "Oh Father," "Bad Girl," "Drowned World" and "Nothing Really Matters" thankfully are on the two other home video releases, so, really, we've got everything we need on DVD of her non-tour video releases- even "This Used to Be My Playground," you can get on A League of Their Own special edition DVD. "You Must Love Me" remains elusive on North American shores, but it's just her next to a piano and movie clips, so no big loss there. Now, we wait for elusive tours to be issued on DVD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyDietrich Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I love the DVD, it's one of the best things I've bought since... forever. Love it love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Where can i get this? they didnt release it in belgium for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_On_Her Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I adore the DVD I think its fab and definitely the best compliation of Madonna's ever released. I havent even bothered with the cd collection and I wont THAT looks like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisy_Boy Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Thankfully in Portugal "You Must Love Me" is on "EVITA" DVD and also "This Used To Be My Playground" is on regular edition of "A League of Their Own". I do think that bad quality of DVD in Europe it's because it's NTSC when DVDs and TVs are PAL. I don't know why have they done that... quite strange... Has anyone seen a PAL release anywhere in the world? I would love to own it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest missy bi_tch Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Viewing You'll See, I feel the emotions in me running high and the song brilliantly shows Madonna's depth and emotions... Soaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Has anyone seen a PAL release anywhere in the world? I would love to own it... No, it doesn't exist. Every copy is the same region-free NTSC DVD. Given how low sales are, not surprised they did it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeMo Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 No, it doesn't exist. Every copy is the same region-free NTSC DVD. Given how low sales are, not surprised they did it like that. They're completely justified in half assing the career retrospective of one of the biggest video artists ever. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afrolito Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 So WB never bothered to release a PAL version of the DVD in Europe?....A market where she's actually still celebrated on the charts? That's fucked up, but I'm not really surprised. I don't blame Madonna, it's WB that just doesn't give a fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Most of the players/tvs have no issue with this. It's not an argument that she's celebrated on European charts, if the DVD itself sold around only 10k in the UK, which is the biggest market. In some countries the sales might be around 1000 copies only, but Warner still should have made a PAL version for a handful of people like that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 The PAL - NTSC debate is a non issue 2 me. I have a problem with the colour saturation, interlacing & the fucked up contrast in certain shots.. It's not like u have 2 make an effort 2 notice these things so I wonder what copies people own who say everything is fine. Which doesn't mean I don't enjoy this collection, I'm just dissapointed about the technical aspects of these 'remasters'. Content-wise..Only Get Together is truly embarrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisy_Boy Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I see lack of detail and saturation, probably due to NTSC system... Actually Pal have more lines and better defenition than NTSC and that's probably why in Europe we notice the lack of quality of the DVD... it's the first NTSC DVD I own... and I own more than 300 DVDs... The TV is quite new but not the DVD player... though they are multisystem they are PAL optimised. Every other DVD I own (including Madonna DVDs) are PAL and quality it's a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacHarris Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 So, I FINALLY Found the DVD in F.Y.E. I'm In Love. This woman is A Video God!!! I Might Melt The Discs Before the Night is Over. And The Quality looks Fab. to Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 This thread is endless. I love it, I can find an issue about this shitty release everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subhuman Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Content-wise..Only Get Together is truly embarrasing. The ICON version is awful, the regular version should've been included instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini1313 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Im satisfied with the content but to be totaly honest...im very DISAPPOINTED in the QUALITY. If you watch the VIDEO COLLECTION 93:99 ....the HQ was 100x better. all of the videos on the 93:99 were all crystal clear. the CELEBRATION compilation seems inferior. ive always been a stickler for clarity...and someone posted before that WARNER condesned the files so that they could fit as many as possible on each DVD....therefore, compromising picture quality. fuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian John Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm pretty finicky when it comes to picture quality on DVDs, and I have no issues with Celebration. Yes, there are a few brief moments where the clips show their age, but nothing horrible and nothing that I wouldn't expect from 25 year old music videos shot on videotape. Either way, they look better than I've ever seen them, and for that I am very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglg426 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well if i ever find it anywhere , I guess I could comment. I wont buy it online, not paying s/h. Checked Wal-Mart and Best Buy again today , STILL nothing !! ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini1313 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm pretty finicky when it comes to picture quality on DVDs, and I have no issues with Celebration. Yes, there are a few brief moments where the clips show their age, but nothing horrible and nothing that I wouldn't expect from 25 year old music videos shot on videotape. Either way, they look better than I've ever seen them, and for that I am very happy. compare the CELEBRATION RAIN to the 93:99 RAIN *big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacHarris Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 The Only "Flaw" I Found in the CELEBRATION DVD is the huge Absence of 'Bad Girl' I Mean, It is One of Her Best 90's Videos!!! The Quality Really Looks Fine, on My FlatScreen. I Found No Major Problems There. I Never Bought 93:99, So Yeah... No Comment there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 The DVD quality is brilliant. Didn't come across any of those problems ppl on this board had whinned about. Comparing one DVD with another DVD? I rather save my time for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Maybe Canada also had issues, cause "Rain" looked A-OK to me. The only clips that looked a little grainy were the first couple or so, and that's no surprise because of their age. I remember when someone posted that still of "Sorry," but the DVD looks nothing like that- it's sharp for that video (the still must have been from a Euro copy). I don't get, though, why WB would not release proper formats for different countries- it did it before with the other home video releases, no? So why not now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennylu Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) Well if i ever find it anywhere , I guess I could comment. I wont buy it online, not paying s/h. Checked Wal-Mart and Best Buy again today , STILL nothing !! ugh Have you tried Target? Plenty here in Rockland County, NY since Day 1, and was on sale for $20 even last week... Edited October 26, 2009 by lennylu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 What is clear- and something that M even has owned up to- is that overall, she is not as into making videos as she once was. Watching "Hollywood" through "Celebration" showcases that. How many clips has frolicked on the floor (and ended up there at video's end)? When I watched the DVD it stood out to me how much she likes being on the floor (a common lyric for her, but literally)... are you saying it happens a lot in recent videos? It starts in Burning Up and never stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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