Guest jamesshot Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Some of the reviews seem to miss the point of her lyrics. Her urgency is to be interpreted as urgent so her lyrics reflect that. We are in urgent time all over the globe. This is not the time for subtle lyrics, which she is capable of. Fuck the "critics".
miki Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 i think bruce would prefer to change places with M. he has been lauded by the critics for having released a great album, yet his own fans are like, ' meh , you're exaggerating.'
Mr Ciccone Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Madame X – Record Collector Review Globe-spinning mishmash At its most interesting, Madonna’s first album in four years conjures up a few surprises, not least the tempo-twisting Dark Ballet and its mash-up minimalist piano, vocoder-voiced bridge borrowing from Tchaikovsky’s The Nutcracker and trip-hop undertones. There’s also much to admire in the sweeping Philadelphia soul and Vogue-like chants of God Control, or the noir-esque balladry of I Don’t Search, I Find. It’s hamstrung, however, by an over-reliance on by-the-book Latin motifs, often accompanied by Portuguese or Spanish-language vocals and woolly protest lyrics like, “I’ll be Islam if Islam is hated/I’ll be Israel if they’re incarcerated” (Killers Who Are Partying). Coupled with excursions into pedestrian African tribal rhythms and generic Jamaican dancehall, it gives the impression of a woman pitching jingles for a Benetton commercial. Teny Staunton 3 out of 5 stars https://allaboutmadonna.com/2019/06/madame-x-record-collector-review.php
Shaun Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Unfortunately Record Collector counts. Another shitty mixed review for an extraordinary album.
the-queen Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Napoléon said: Let’s face it - If Miley or Ariana or Gaga released this album it would be hailed as a masterpiece. Fuck these critics. The user rating on Metacritic says it all really. I agree with this. If Taylor released even a Madame X outtake it would be hailed as genius and revolutionary. Madonna has had a good ride with this album so far though. Her work is appreciated fully by us - we know the truth. I Don’t Search I Find, for example, is something only M could do. Nobody touches her.
Shaun Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 The user reviews give a whole new meaning to the lyric “Everybody knows the damn truth.”
smirnoff_ice Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Shaun said: The user reviews give a whole new meaning to the lyric “Everybody knows the damn truth.” Probably my favourite line in the whole album
AnonymouslyInLoveWithM Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 8:07 AM, Shane said: Killers Who Are Partying is an amazing song, and it’s sad to see the pin head logic when it comes to the lyrics. These are the same people who probably post pics on their social media saying “I am Pulse” and “Je suis Charlie” and have zero problem with it. The song is a show of solidarity, and the chorus rebukes any argument that she is trying to BE any of those groups. People’s idiocy in this day and age is astounding. THIS! KWAP is a supreme HIGHLIGHT of the album for me - especially its second half, after she sings about being a woman and then that beautiful music kicks in with her singing, seemingly right in your ear, "God knooows what I am." CHILLS!
articunocc Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Napoléon said: Let’s face it - If Miley or Ariana or Gaga released this album it would be hailed as a masterpiece. Fuck these critics. The user rating on Metacritic says it all really. neh, they ripped Miley's new record and Taylor's new song to shreds *on taylor's case for cringy SJW baiting admittedly, that song is atrocious* ... gaga is also read to filth on metacritic on the regular so there's no surprise there... Ariana and queen B are the true critical darlings, but not everything they release gets 5 star reviews... just *almost* everything
Michael. Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, articunocc said: neh, they ripped Miley's new record and Taylor's new song to shreds *on taylor's case for cringy SJW baiting admittedly, that song is atrocious* ... gaga is also read to filth on metacritic on the regular so there's no surprise there... Ariana and queen B are the true critical darlings, but not everything they release gets 5 star reviews... just *almost* everything I said if they had released Madame X specifically. Not their usual crap which is rightly rated poorly. My point being that Madame X is a masterpiece and the bad reviews are because it’s Madonna and not because of the music itself.
humanracin Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Reviewers seem to either Hate or Love the album, it seems to get either 80 or 50 and below. So overall score is now down to 70.... hope it doesn't fall into the 60s ! And where is the Mojo review ?!
side_streets Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, humanracin said: Reviewers seem to either Hate or Love the album, it seems to get either 80 or 50 and below. So overall score is now down to 70.... hope it doesn't fall into the 60s ! And where is the Mojo review ?! Those who hate the album don't have valid arguments for their hate. I f the album were bad they would drag it to hell and back. This album is on the way to become one of the most important Madonna albums.
Guest jamesshot Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 4 hours ago, humanracin said: Reviewers seem to either Hate or Love the album, it seems to get either 80 or 50 and below. So overall score is now down to 70.... hope it doesn't fall into the 60s ! And where is the Mojo review ?! But that isn't true. Most reviews are very positive. One outright negative one. The ones in the 60's are written as 80 or above but cite a few (in their opinion) questionable lyrical choices and that seems to shave off 20 points. Ridiculous.
rocknrolla Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 I can understand like on MDNA, for example, for deducting a good 10 points for the way the vocals are pitched.
rocknrolla Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, jamesshot said: But that isn't true. Most reviews are very positive. One outright negative one. The ones in the 60's are written as 80 or above but cite a few (in their opinion) questionable lyrical choices and that seems to shave off 20 points. Ridiculous. Plus a great many positive reviews don't "count". I think under 20 should be statistically insignificant
Guest jamesshot Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 I've been over critics for a long time. For one, I love horror movies and critics have always hated them so I have always had a very skeptical eye on critics. When it comes to Madonna, they never review just her work, they review her, and it is tiresome. I can't usually make it through any article on Madonna because I always encounter the usual bullshit. I'm not reading that shit anymore. She survived vicious attempts to take her down yet they keep trying. You can't be more successful than Madonna so they failed.
Rebel Heartbreaker Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 On 19 June 2019 at 9:36 PM, Jazzy Jan said: Cameron Adams from Australia Thanks @Jazzy Jan - great review from Cameron.
the-queen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Decent review there. He respects Madonna as an artist, which is good to see.
Fever Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Anyone read the review in The Quietus? Not going to post it here but it’s pretty damming. And unfair. Basically paints her as a white supremicist and at one point says ‘oh fuck off Madge.’ Not the most professional.
fandonna Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Fever said: Anyone read the review in The Quietus? Not going to post it here but it’s pretty damming. And unfair. Basically paints her as a white supremicist and at one point says ‘oh fuck off Madge.’ Not the most professional. it counts her metacritic is getting worse lol Edited June 21, 2019 by fandonna
Morrigan Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Make sure not to give negative reviews clicks. Just copy and paste them here without the Url Edited June 21, 2019 by Morrigan
Nikki Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 told you.. indie outlets dont like it when a mainstream artist wants to genuinely do good and spread a message.
side_streets Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, fandonna said: it counts her metacritic is getting worse lol Fuck off? Really?
Steve Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 What reviews besides MoJo are missing that count? People magazine? ..........? ..........?
ConfessYourself Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steve said: What reviews besides MoJo are missing that count? People magazine? ..........? ..........? Mojo 80 Quietus 50 (?) Record Collector 60
Shaun Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 “Mouth closed/I don’t want your opinion/Who you talkin’ to?”
Steve Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Shaun said: “Mouth closed/I don’t want your opinion/Who you talkin’ to?”
Steve Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, ConfessYourself said: Mojo 80 Quietus 50 (?) Record Collector 60 Sheesh...Quietus is the pivotal review for the score...keeping 70. she deserves better anyways! MadameMasterpiece
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