Nessie Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, justi5myluv said: Anyone has any theory as to why she sang the way she did in the beginning? Almost like clenching her jaw or mumbling. Does it represent the rage or anger she is trying to suppress? I mean, she sounded like she was singing from the dentist chair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said: I did not like the way she sang the first part at the very beginning. Madonna has one of the most beautiful, clear and emotional voices of any artist ever - something I treasure her for and think she is never rated enough on - and I just don't like her voice sounding like she is mumbling. So many other singers mumble and I always hate it. Otherwise, love the rest of the song and how she sings it throughout the rest of it. I have a feeling that her lips will be sawn (is that the correct verb form?) just like on the album cover. In my opinion she can finally express herself when the euphoric part kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardo Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, karbatal said: I have a feeling that her lips will be sawn (is that the correct verb form?) just like on the album cover. In my opinion she can finally express herself when the euphoric part kicks. exactly. she enunciates so clearly on songs like "extreme occident" so it obviously has purpose and i think it adds to the effect of what she's singing. can't wait for the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-queen Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, karbatal said: I have a feeling that her lips will be sawn (is that the correct verb form?) just like on the album cover. In my opinion she can finally express herself when the euphoric part kicks. Agree. This isn’t an instance of Madonna singing poorly (mumbling) and accepting a bad take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
give-it-2me Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Definitely one of the best on the album I can't wait for the video. I do dislike the way she sings the first verse though but I understand its a creative choice so it's cool. The choir, that build, the way it becomes a disco beat banger I just adore it. I get why it wasn't the first single though it is very different and maybe a little weird to start off the campaign off with she needed some tracks that would appeal to locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idro Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, karbatal said: I have a feeling that her lips will be sawn (is that the correct verb form?) just like on the album cover. In my opinion she can finally express herself when the euphoric part kicks. Yep I guess it s about that instagram post where she had her mouth covered in some kind of a glittered mask...dunno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcutter Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I think the grill-voice at the beginning is also a nod to early autotune techniques heard on some 70s disco songs. The method has been perfected since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamifero Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasu Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Artistically this is a (or maybe the) highpoint of the album, and her whole career. Such a bold and stunning piece of work. I adore the choir, the vintage disco and the whirling strings – I mean WOW! Together with Dark Ballet, it’s like going to a very strange Sunday mass and leaving it feeling ecstatic even though you’re an atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudet Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 6 hours ago, rukydee said: This song takes you from different eras of dance music, from 60s to 70s to 80s to 90s to 00s to 2010s and the future Where do you hear 1960s in GC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geiger83 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 19 hours ago, karbatal said: "It's a weird kind of energyA bizarre thing that happens to beAn abnormal fraternityAnd I feel more than sympathy" I wish this part was longer and was more prominent in the song! It's classic Madonna! Each time I listen to this part I could cry. Really, is so amazing and for me the climax of this album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVX Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I kinda wish this had been the lead single. It’s a lot catchier than Medellin and it represents the album better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geiger83 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, LVX said: I kinda wish this had been the lead single. It’s a lot catchier than Medellin and it represents the album better. I agree, but I think M's team adopted the strategy of reaching different listeners through the first feats (Maluma/ Swae Lee) for streaming purposes and reserved God Control to be released now. I personally think it should have been better to release it as first single and then release the feats. I hope it becomes a hit though Edited June 16, 2019 by Geiger83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I'm still slain by this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 hours ago, nightcutter said: I think the grill-voice at the beginning is also a nod to early autotune techniques heard on some 70s disco songs. The method has been perfected since then. That voice is not because of the grills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priceless Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I agree that this song is a huge artistic accomplishment for Madonna. She combined so many things she does well into one song, it's quite a feat. I personally love the clenched teeth at the beginning of the song, it's a really fresh and different vocal expression for her. It fits perfectly with what she's singing about - she's actually saying that she understands why people get a gun and why people give up. It's very sobering and I love how her anger and sadness sound like they're seeping out of her mouth, very affecting. I also love that she says "it makes me laugh" twice when referring to leaders who say they're trying to help. I think the highlight of the song for me is after she sings "a new democracy" and whispers a repeat of the first verse. We start to hear the choir again from the first part of the song and the way the rhythm interplays with the strong disco beat is utterly fantastic. I think this will be one of those songs with strong replay value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbradleynyc Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Priceless said: I agree that this song is a huge artistic accomplishment for Madonna. She combined so many things she does well into one song, it's quite a feat. I personally love the clenched teeth at the beginning of the song, it's a really fresh and different vocal expression for her. It fits perfectly with what she's singing about - she's actually saying that she understands why people get a gun and why people give up. It's very sobering and I love how her anger and sadness sound like they're seeping out of her mouth, very affecting. I also love that she says "it makes me laugh" twice when referring to leaders who say they're trying to help. I think the highlight of the song for me is after she sings "a new democracy" and whispers a repeat of the first verse. We start to hear the choir again from the first part of the song and the way the rhythm interplays with the strong disco beat is utterly fantastic. I think this will be one of those songs with strong replay value. yeah, the part at the beginning is the most powerful set up for the song. It makes perfect sense--she's incredibly angry and it works beautifully. It's an incredible song--one of the best of her entire career. Just stunning--can't wait to hear it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 12 hours ago, nightcutter said: I think the grill-voice at the beginning is also a nod to early autotune techniques heard on some 70s disco songs. The method has been perfected since then. Yes Loving this track so much Loving the entire album tbh There's a couple of songs that I'd rate 7.5 Everything else is 9 and 10 material in my eyes That's how brilliant, interesting, fresh, experimental, bold this new set is And all accomplished while once again taking risks with her audiences I agree with @karbatal about the stylistic choice in the beginning of the song Transitioning from mumbling to clarity is done on purpose and it represents the journey from doubt and oppression to freedom and enlightenment/celebration Nothing is left to chance with Madame Ciccone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 hours ago, karbatal said: That voice is not because of the grills. Of course it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Geiger83 said: I agree, but I think M's team adopted the strategy of reaching different listeners through the first feats (Maluma/ Swae Lee) for streaming purposes and reserved God Control to be released now. I personally think it should have been better to release it as first single and then release the feats. I hope it becomes a hit though It's obviously a great song and a masterful effort on her part but tbh I don't see this working as a commercial first single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, XXL said: It's obviously a great song and a masterful effort on her part but tbh In don't see this working as a commercial first single Totally agree. One of my favorite but would be a bad choice for a 1st single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 hours ago, karbatal said: That voice is not because of the grills. It's a combination of elements and yes, the grills accentuate the wilful mispronunciation of the opening words They give it that slurring effect, just like the lowered speaking tone etc do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, runa said: Totally agree. One of my favorite but would be a bad choice for a 1st single. A song like HU fits first single material billing, as far as uptempo tracks go. But this one is as experimental as just about most songs on this album. Structurally and stylistically, and it's this experimentation that makes it so good and enthralling but first single material should always mantain some neutrality and a classic pop hook vibe to it, uniformity to it, if it makes sense, the complete change of tone and pace from the beginning to the end of the song makes it anything but uniform, which doesn't mean that it isn't great no less Even Medellin which fits that description more contains some variations from its genre, so I think she did the right thing not releasing God Control as a first single. Her choice of album appetizers was varied but still somewhat kept things mostly within a mainstream sensibility, then fans or casual listeners get to hear the full spectrum of new songs and BAM, instantly blown away by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineaspoe Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 IMO with a nice remix that essentially restructures the song to be a bit more predictable she’d be all set for her Believe moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carey Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Phineaspoe said: IMO with a nice remix that essentially restructures the song to be a bit more predictable she’d be all set for her Believe moment... you're giving the general public too much credit, pretty much every #1 of the last two years has been trash bar a few exceptions. In this climate, god control is too good to do well. radio is filled with rubbish, i'd like her to get that believe moment but having an album this good is way more important to me, it could be debut at #178 and it's still a masterpiece, i don't care if the public are too dull/dumb/dreary to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Phineaspoe said: IMO with a nice remix that essentially restructures the song to be a bit more predictable she’d be all set for her Believe moment... I think Madonna doesn't need or ever needed a "Believe moment" in her career A "Believe moment" would be subpar for a star of Madonna's calibre Misplaced reference imo Madonna has had something as huge as HU when she was 47, she doesn't need to have that disco banger moment for the rest of her life to be the great Madonna that she obviously still is, just like she shouldn't do Ray Of Light part II, III and IV Believe was never HU, Music or any uptempo opener that Madonna's been serving many times in her career. And more importantly some fans seem to forget that Cher has had a very patchy and inconsistent career as far as timelines and charts go. That 1998 success was preceded by almost two decades of drought so it really doesn't count as much as any Madonna worldwide hit because Madonna has released at a constant and frequent pace and 95% of times to great commercial and critical reception, speaking in sheer discographic terms Sorry but every time people bring up Cher's Believe "because she was 53 when it came out" I laugh a bit and scratch my head in disbelief In Italy, like in most other continental Europe countries, if you ask anybody from my generation (I'm in my mid 30s) who Cher is they wouldn't have a clue about it but Madonna is, love her or hate her, a household name whether we're talking teens, 20 year olds and above. It's a completely different ballpark. I don't think she needs ANY Believe moment at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Carey said: radio is filled with rubbish, having an album this good is way more important to me, it could be debut at #178 and it's still a masterpiece, i don't care if the public are too dull/dumb/dreary to get it. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineaspoe Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't think she needs it either, but that she could have one. And it's not about Cher's age imo, but that she was that age AND had been out of the charts for at least eight years. But again, I don't give a either way. It was just an observation. I do hope as many people as possible get to appreciate God Control for the masterpiece that it is, and unlike others I always hold out hope. I was once 20 and fell in love with Madonna singing about soy lattes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urien Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 When do you think the supposed video to this song will get a release? It's too god damn epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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