caba1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 7/7/2018 at 2:55 AM, elijah said: Its astonishing how great Madonna is and how horrible all her choices of collaborators have been. Its absolutely shocking. Miley doesn't make an exception. The only credible collaboration has been Bedtime Story. The artists I think she would have sounded great with (stylistically, musically etc.) are MJ, Depeche Mode, George Michael. do we count Pet Shop Boys one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, caba1 said: do we count Pet Shop Boys one of them? Definitely. I much prefer that follow up to Confessions to have been an album produced by them and Stuart as it was rumored heavily, before t and t got involved:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesshot Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 She missed a lot of opportunities for hits with collabs over the years. That is why I don't get her being called a vampire or other shit. She could have and maybe should have been feat on so many collabs over the years to get and maintain chart dominance. She didn't. We know she does what she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caba1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, elijah said: Definitely. I much prefer that follow up to Confessions to have been an album produced by them and Stuart as it was rumored heavily, before t and t got involved:( i read that they did songs for her back in 2007 but the direction changed and she decided to focus on that r&b/hip hop style. Same happened with Mirwais who said that his songs were scrapped i think EDIT: oh i forgot about Moby. He said he didn't have time to work with her. That would have been interesting but we had Music instead which give us Mirwais productions so i think we are ok lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, caba1 said: i read that they did songs for her back in 2007 but the direction changed and she decided to focus on that r&b/hip hop style. Same happened with Mirwais who said that his songs were scrapped i think EDIT: oh i forgot about Moby. He said he didn't have time to work with her. That would have been interesting but we had Music instead which give us Mirwais productions so i think we are ok lol Moby was a bit of a fad so I don’t rate him nowhere as high as Pet Shop Boys collab or the other artists I mentioned. I always felt like M is a timeless artist and it always felt like she was trashing her legacy when collaborating with artists like Britney or Minaj. I always thought a collaboration with Morcheeba or another Massive Attack one would have been amazing. I want you was great, even if a non success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthecat Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, caba1 said: i read that they did songs for her back in 2007 but the direction changed and she decided to focus on that r&b/hip hop style. Same happened with Mirwais who said that his songs were scrapped i think EDIT: oh i forgot about Moby. He said he didn't have time to work with her. That would have been interesting but we had Music instead which give us Mirwais productions so i think we are ok lol It breaks my heart to think that collaboration was almost going to happen. Their albums with Stuart Price albums are wonderful, they do proper grown-up pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I hope she collaborates with Miley. First, because I love Miley, and second because I wanna see you all stupid hoes seethe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, elijah said: Definitely. I much prefer that follow up to Confessions to have been an album produced by them and Stuart as it was rumored heavily, before t and t got involved:( Justin Timberlake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 For the record I love Miley and I’m ok with this rumor being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Django said: I hope she collaborates with Miley. First, because I love Miley, and second because I wanna see you all stupid hoes seethe. Same. Just to all piss you off. And add Migos to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul8323 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, runa said: Same. Just to all piss you off. And add Migos to the list. And I hope that Nicki Minaj does all of the singing and M has only a featured rap on every song. Haha.... Oh the meltdown. M can make any kind of album that she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 This is the most boring, least exciting rumour ever, and 4 years too late. Even another collab with Nicki Minaj is more exciting than this. Why is there even a separate thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaything Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Django said: and second because I wanna see you all stupid hoes seethe. I guess that falls into the same stupid category as „Madonna is wearing grillz for 5 years because she wants to piss off her entitled fans“. Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthecat Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 .........well I hope Madonna’s vocals don’t even feature on her new album! And we get bonus DVD of her interviewing Kim Kardashian about beauty secrets!!! with bonus comedy skit features from TheFatJew!!! .....just to piss you all off and see the meltdowns!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, Plaything said: I guess that falls into the same stupid category as „Madonna is wearing grillz for 5 years because she wants to piss off her entitled fans“. Yawn... She wore them cause she wanted to, and she does what she wants. You can yawn all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaything Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Django said: She wore them cause she wanted to, and she does what she wants. You can yawn all you want. Yeah whatever, it’s childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Plaything said: Yeah whatever, it’s childish I don't think she cares about your opinion. And she shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeTuoni Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Django said: I don't think she cares about your opinion. And she shouldn't. Has anyone ever thought madonna cared for their opinion? And for that very reason we should refrain from expressing our opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, FeTuoni said: Has anyone ever thought madonna cared for their opinion? And for that very reason we should refrain from expressing our opinions? If you are expressing the same old tired opinion for over 5 years then yes, refrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
functions_X Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 17 hours ago, jamesshot said: She missed a lot of opportunities for hits with collabs over the years. That is why I don't get her being called a vampire or other shit. She could have and maybe should have been feat on so many collabs over the years to get and maintain chart dominance. She didn't. We know she does what she wants. I disagree completely, I think the problem is that she's collaborating with the hottest trend of the moment thinking she might gain something from it, and in the end nothing happens because all these people are basically one hit wonders... She rarely collaborated with quality artists, usually it's some trendy new artist at their commercial peak. The list is seemingly endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caba1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 14 hours ago, elijah said: Moby was a bit of a fad so I don’t rate him nowhere as high as Pet Shop Boys collab or the other artists I mentioned. I always felt like M is a timeless artist and it always felt like she was trashing her legacy when collaborating with artists like Britney or Minaj. I always thought a collaboration with Morcheeba or another Massive Attack one would have been amazing. I want you was great, even if a non success... But he was on his peak at the moment. So we'll never know. I'm happy with her work with Britney. It's one of her most iconic moments and introduced her to a new generation. Probably the last generation that gave her attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'm sure if the Miley collaboration winds up happening. it will most likely be a good track. I think this way even though Miley isn't a great or interesting artist. Something about Madonna makes me enjoy almost all her musical output.... I do want Madonna to seek out better artists for inspiration instead of the mostly very mainstream crap. i recognize it's a matter of taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeTuoni Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Django said: If you are expressing the same old tired opinion for over 5 years then yes, refrain. Maybe you should refrain from being a nasty person. Who are you to censor me or anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idro Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Django said: She wore them cause she wanted to, and she does what she wants. You can yawn all you want. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 11:24 AM, elijah said: I always felt like M is a timeless artist and it always felt like she was trashing her legacy when collaborating with artists like Britney or Minaj. I always thought a collaboration with Morcheeba or another Massive Attack one would have been amazing. I want you was great, even if a non success... YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 hours ago, FeTuoni said: Maybe you should refrain from being a nasty person. Who are you to censor me or anyone else? I am just expressing my opinion. You can continue saying whatever you want and I'll keep saying whatever I want. I don't have the power to censor anyone but if I have to hear your opinion, you'll hear mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 13 hours ago, caba1 said: But he was on his peak at the moment. So we'll never know. I'm happy with her work with Britney. It's one of her most iconic moments and introduced her to a new generation. Probably the last generation that gave her attention. Actually I think the work with Britney damaged her image/legacy rather than be of any help. MATM was far from any success everywhere. The VMA with Britney was drawing attention to Madonna, but not to her music. It showed her in unflattering light and as "uncool" and trying to attach herself to a young hip trashy girl (beyond her level). I think Madonna and Stuart Price introduced Madonna to a new generation via COADF. Even with 0 radio support in USA, COADF was a huge undeniable success, even in dear old USA. It was that good. It was glorious time to be a fan in Europe. Felt like a second Ray Of Light, almost. And it had 0 to do with Britney. It was all tnx to Madonna, Stuart and arguably, ABBA :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeTuoni Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, Django said: I am just expressing my opinion. You can continue saying whatever you want and I'll keep saying whatever I want. I don't have the power to censor anyone but if I have to hear your opinion, you'll hear mine. Never said I wouldn’t... after all, we’re in a discussion forum to exchange ideas, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
functions_X Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 hours ago, elijah said: Actually I think the work with Britney damaged her image/legacy rather than be of any help. MATM was far from any success everywhere. The VMA with Britney was drawing attention to Madonna, but not to her music. It showed her in unflattering light and as "uncool" and trying to attach herself to a young hip trashy girl (beyond her level). I think Madonna and Stuart Price introduced Madonna to a new generation via COADF. Even with 0 radio support in USA, COADF was a huge undeniable success, even in dear old USA. It was that good. It was glorious time to be a fan in Europe. Felt like a second Ray Of Light, almost. And it had 0 to do with Britney. It was all tnx to Madonna, Stuart and arguably, ABBA :). I think the VMA show with Britney was definitely a high moment for M at that point, it was a HUGE deal.... but MATM did nothing for her... not a major hit, not a good song, not an improvement (not even for Britney, especially with Toxic happening next), a total useless nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Madonna + Depeche Mode A vision of Heaven Local starlettes, Disney rejects and NON artists Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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