realityisalways Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The newest revolution could be older than you think.Interesting article https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/live-fast-die-old-is-ageism-pop-cultures-final-frontier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realityisalways Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Summary, but the whole thing is worth reading: *Female-oriented ageism is alive and well, discreetly practiced and rarely discussed. *it's hard to find women of a certain age in most fashion magazines, and when they're featured in the tabloid media it always seems to be about 'looking good for their age'.*It's a youth-centric culture that teaches young people to fear age, disdain it, and worse, ridicule it.*Once older women go out there on their own terms, they risk crossing society's elusive borderlines of what's considered 'age-appropriate'.*Age appropriate is a hate term of mine. Why? Because it belittles women older and wiser than the people who use it, as if they were teenage girls in sexually inappropriate hemlines and too much make-up. If I were a woman, I would hate to make it to 50 only to be told I couldn't wear whatever I felt good in. "Sexiness is about attitude and being able to be yourself without judgment from other people,"*Society's criticism of middle-aged women in the spotlight isn't just aimed at appearances, but an overriding view of how they're meant to be behaving.*I can't help but wonder why pop culture's all-important stamp of relevance is exclusively given to young entertainers with no significant cultural or social achievements behind them, when Madonna, who revolutionized gender roles in popular culture, fronted post-70s feminism, and challenged the taboo of sex in the public forum, is being dismissed as 'try-hard' and 'desperate to be young'? *It's the popular notion that people's old age somehow pollutes their legacy, and that your age prohibits you from doing - or wearing or saying - certain things.*Should Madonna shelve her raunchy dance tracks and take to sitting on a bar stool singing ballad medleys, fur-clad and bejeweled like some millennial Marlene Dietrich? She already did that, 25 years ago.*Instead of writing off people like Madonna as desperate to be relevant, we should rejoice in the fact that her youthful disposition will keep her around for longer so she can keep inspiring generations to come.*people over 40 are the rebels of the 2010s: a counter-culture of a new world*The introduction of older women in fashion campaigns this year is a huge step towards to a less ageist social spirit, but it doesn't cancel out the need for a revolution.*At 57, Madonna's current age revolution might just be her greatest gift to future generations of women. And in the words of Marilyn Manson, she'll look hotter than ever doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 nice article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.K Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 great read!One writer that seems to "get" Madonna perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Music Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'm sure no other will achieve what she's making right now, in her 50's. Others seem already to struggle in their 40's... I think it was easier even for male singers to chart and have hits in her 50's some years ago (Elton John, Phill Collins all had hits in the 1990's). Right now they seem to have disappear. Where are the middle age male singers ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le smoking Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Read this article last night and loved it. I can't remember who, but someone said on here a few months ago that this may be the most important, and the most exciting time of her career, and I think it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'm sure no other will achieve what she's making right now, in her 50's. Others seem already to struggle in their 40's... I think it was easier even for male singers to chart and have hits in her 50's some years ago (Elton John, Phill Collins all had hits in the 1990's). Right now they seem to have disappear. Where are the middle age male singers ?! Nobody makes fun of 40 year old entertainers for being too old. People have been calling Madonna an old has been since Erotica. It really started getting ugly around Music. Thanks to Madonna nobody goes through that anymore. The worst that could happen is that they post an unflattering picture. But you don't see skits about Jennifer Lopez being an old granma on a walker trying to be sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 A-fucking-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Great article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Nobody makes fun of 40 year old entertainers for being too old. People have been calling Madonna an old has been since Erotica. It really started getting ugly around Music. Thanks to Madonna nobody goes through that anymore. The worst that could happen is that they post an unflattering picture. But you don't see skits about Jennifer Lopez being an old granma on a walker trying to be sexy. true!!! and is the same about being a mother: I remember the question about being a mother alllll the time! and now you can be a woman and not be obsessed about being a mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanLife95825 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 i think the point is so that others WILL be able to do what she's doing in their 50's. a real queen keeps leading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejean Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 i think the point is so that others WILL be able to do what she's doing in their 50's. a real queen keeps leading! Agreed. Madonna's legacy is still on going. Madonn being able to be a force in popular entertainment despite 'ageing' is one of those things that people will look back at her on with gratitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter9 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 BRAVO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamazooJay Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Great article. I think this is why you've seen current pop stars from Taylor to Britney to Katy to Beyoncé heap praise upon her. They know they'll be facing the same kind of issues at some point in their career. We talk so much about them taking pages from her earlier career, but I think they're watching her even more closely right now. Mostly to see how you evolve as a pop star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Amen to everything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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