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That's fanbase only so it really does prove just how much the UK is OVER Madonna.

So you're suggesting that Madonna's fan base should be large enough to guarantee her a #1 single? I guess that's an admission of your non-fandom, since you have declared very loudly that you will not be buying this single (or pretty much anything else she releases these days) :dramatic: I would bet anything that Oasis has more than just 8 000 UK fans and Madonna certainly has more than 5000. Well over 300k have bought HC.

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Didn't GI2M peak in the top 10 airplay (or, right outside of it)?

In any event, it's unlikely that the UK is over Madge- if it were, 4M wouldn't have been as successful as it was. Unlike the USA, the Timbas participation likely had less to do with its large success compared to the USA.

Sure, MA is a chart disappointment, but I'm sure the next *new* Madge single will score pretty well in the UK digital realm.

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So you're suggesting that Madonna's fan base should be large enough to guarantee her a #1 single? I guess that's an admission of your non-fandom, since you have declared very loudly that you will not be buying this single (or pretty much anything else she releases these days) :dramatic: I would bet anything that Oasis has more than just 8 000 UK fans and Madonna certainly has more than 5000. Well over 300k have bought HC.

madonna's fanbase has always been large enough to secure a top20 placing for singles that were doomed way before their release- just take a look at some of her weakest singles to date. one more chance, human nature, oh father, love profusion, drowned world-grand song but still a poor choice of a single-all debuted high because of the fanbase and experienced major second week drops, meaning they hadn't connected to the public at all. miles aways also proved to be a song nobody cares about, the major difference is that not even the fanbase are now willing to back it, hence the shockingly low position. instead of blaming the fans that didn't buy it, blame madonna's attitude for that matter. if a considerable portion of the uk fans wanted to support this single, or even the last one, then chart positions would have been way different, as give it 2 me could have easily scrapped the top5 and miles away should have a chance in peaking within the top20.

the truth is, 4 minutes may have been a big crossover hit, but the song itself, tha album and more importantly her lame attitude alienated too many of the british fans-i won't even mention the impact of the wembley disaster, that was the final nail in the coffin.

even in a chart climate where digital sales matter way more than physical sales, she should have had a lead compared to other acts. look at oasis, they're irrelevant in these days, yet they manage one top10 after the other. some years ago they'd be scoring top3 hits yet with the digital age they've succumbed to top10 placings, which is not bad. what defines a bad situation is for the biggest chart act of the past 25 years struggling to make the top40.

by the way, i don't comprehend people accusing warners over the lack of a video. surely it's not the company's executives that should have appeared on the video rather than the artist herself. she obviously didn't give a toss about it cause she was too busy touring, but then touring has never stopped countless other acts from filming a video for their latest single which, even more importantly, is supposed to promote its parent album during the all mighty holiday season.

in other words, the -remaining- fans have woken up. if she does not care, then why should they do so?

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madonna's fanbase has always been large enough to secure a top20 placing for singles that were doomed way before their release- just take a look at some of her weakest singles to date. one more chance, human nature, oh father, love profusion, drowned world-grand song but still a poor choice of a single-all debuted high because of the fanbase and experienced major second week drops, meaning they hadn't connected to the public at all. miles aways also proved to be a song nobody cares about, the major difference is that not even the fanbase are now willing to back it, hence the shockingly low position. instead of blaming the fans that didn't buy it, blame madonna's attitude for that matter. if a considerable portion of the uk fans wanted to support this single, or even the last one, then chart positions would have been way different, as give it 2 me could have easily scrapped the top5 and miles away should have a chance in peaking within the top20.

No matter how many times you're gonna repeat that, the chart does not work like that anymore. Just because those singles went to top 20, they weren't any bigger than "Miles Away". Fanbases aren't in charge on the charts anymore, just accept that.

Funny how everyone can cry on what a tragic position "MA" got in the UK, but already forgot that because of the chance of the chart climate, she got her longest running top 10 hit and one of her longest running #1s with "4 Minutes" just earlier this year...

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Album sales up to Wednesday

1 TAKE THAT (204.6k) *massive*

2 KILLERS (47.6k)

3 BRITNEY SPEARS (35.9k)

4 LEONA LEWIS (35.9k) (54 copies behind)

5 KINGS OF LEON (27.5k)

And single-wise

1 LEONA LEWIS 85,539

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There's a picture disc :shock:

I am sure there is a picture disc somewhere but actually can't find it online now. It was announced on Madonnatribe that in the UK only a 2 track and a picture disc (5k - very optimistic) would be available. HMV are only showing a 12".

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I am sure there is a picture disc somewhere but actually can't find it online now. It was announced on Madonnatribe that in the UK only a 2 track and a picture disc (5k - very optimistic) would be available. HMV are only showing a 12".

I got 2 days ago in Italy the picture disc

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Album sales up to Wednesday

1 TAKE THAT (204.6k) *massive*

2 KILLERS (47.6k)

3 BRITNEY SPEARS (35.9k)

4 LEONA LEWIS (35.9k) (54 copies behind)

5 KINGS OF LEON (27.5k)

And single-wise

1 LEONA LEWIS 85,539

awww, poor Alexz, I mean Brit/Jesus :lol::demonic:

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her lame attitude alienated too many of the british fans-i won't even mention the impact of the wembley disaster, that was the final nail in the coffin.

:clap:

She wowed fans with her 8 shows at Wembley Arena on the CT and then manages to alienate most of them on SS......

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4 Minutes is Madonna's second-biggest-selling single this decade... When the history books are written, the 00s will be known as the decade of the novelty song and the reality act. Look at that pitiful Top Ten... But also, when all is said and done, US acts have no real claim over major sales in this country. The majority of the big sellers are all British-born.

Top 200 Singles of the 00s in the UK

(Up to & Including 1.12.08)

1. Will Young - Evergreen/Anything Is Possible 1,800,000

2. Gareth Gates - Unchained Melody 1,400,000

3. Shaggy - It Wasn't Me 1,190,000

4. Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas 1,140,000

5. Tony Christie - Is This The Way To Amarillo 1,135,000

6. Kylie Minogue - I Can't Get You Out Of My Head 1,100,000

7. Shayne Ward - That's My Goal 1,081,000

8. Hear'Say - Pure & Simple 1,075,000

9. Bob The Builder - Can We Fix It 1,009,000

10. Atomic Kitten - Whole Again 960,000

11. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy 940,000

*12. Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love 925,700

13. Leona Lewis - A Moment Like This 840,000

*14. Enrique Iglesias - Hero 785,300

15. DJ Otzi - Hey Baby 776,000

16. Westlife - Uptown Girl 760,000

17. Nelly & Kelly Rowland - Dilemma 750,000/700,000?

18. Eminem ft Dido - Stan 750,000

19. S Club7 - Don't Stop Moving 740,000

20. All Saints - Pure Shores 720,000

21. Baha Men - Who Let The Dogs Out 707,000

22. Elvis vs JXL - A Little Less Conversation 695,000

*23. X Factor Finalists – Hero 674,420

24. Sonique - Feels So Good 650,000

25. Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love 628,000

26. S Club 7 - Never Had A Dream Come True 620,000

27. Robbie Williams - Rock DJ 615,000

28. Shakira - Whenever Wherever 615,000

*29. Rihanna - Umbrella 609,000

30. James Blunt - You're Beautiful 606,000

31. Girls Alound - Sound Of The Underground 605,000

32. Shaggy -Angel 589,000

33. Las Ketchup - Ketchup Song 583,000

34. Spiller ft Sophie Ellis Bexter - Groovejet (Why Does It Feel So Good) 583,000

35. Gareth Gates -Anyone Of Us (Stupid Mistake) 575,000

36. Eamon - f*** It (I Don't Want U Back) 569,000

37. Michael Andrews Ft Gary Jules - Mad World 569,000

*38. Shakira - Hips Don't Lie 569,000

39. Leann Rimes - Can't Fight The Moonlight 560,000

40. Gareth Gates Ft The Kumars - Spirit In The Sky 558,000

41. Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag 553,000

42. Crazy Frog - Axel F 550,000

*43. Take That - Rule The World 547,400

44. Fragma - Tocas Miracle 533,000 (Not including 2008 remix sales)

45. Daniel Bedingfield - Gotta Get Thru This 530,000

46. Mika - Grace Kelly 528,000

47. Eminem - Without Me 527,000

*48. Nickelback - Rockstar 527,200

49. Afroman - Because I Got High 521,000

*50. Duffy - Mercy 518,150

51. Madonna - Hung Up 517,000

52. Eminem - Lose Yourself 516,000

*53. Will Young - Leave Right Now 516,000

54. R Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 505,000

*55. Take That - Patience 503,000

56. Liberty X - Just A Little 501,000

57. Scissor Sisters - I Don't Feel Like Dancin 500,000

58. Daniel Bedingfield - If You're Not The One 494,000

59. Ronan Keating - If Tomorrow Never Comes 493,000

60. Nickelback - How You Remind Me 491,000

61. Craig David - Fill Me In 490,000

*62. Mark Ronson & Amy Winehouse- Valerie 490,000

63. Pussycat Dolls - Don't Cha 488,000

64. S Club 7 - Reach 485,000

*65. Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars 482,600

*66. Leon Jackson - When You Believe 480,500

67. Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood 477,000

68. DJ Pied Piper & The M.O.C. - Do You Really Like It? 476,000

*69. DJ Sammy - Heaven 471,000

70. Kelly and Ozzy Osbourne - Changes 471,000

71. Christina Aguilera/Mya/ Pink & Lil Kim- Lady Marmalade 465,000

72. Gabrielle - Rise 458,000

73. Eminem - The Real Slim Shady 457,000

74. Modjo - Lady 456,000

*75. Timbaland & One Republic - Apologize 452,250

*76. Estelle feat. Kanye West – American Boy 450,825

77. Nizlopi - JCB Song 450,000

*78. Sugababes - About You Now 450,000

*79. Katy Perry – I kissed a girl 443825

*80. Basshunter – Now You’re Gone 439,500

81. Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again 439,000

82. Destiny's Child - Independent Women 438,000

83. Geri Halliwell - It's Raining Men 426,000

*84. Madonna and Justin Timberlake – Four minutes 425,500

85. Craig David - 7 Days 419,500

*86. Sam Sparro – Black & Gold 419,300

87. Bloodhound Gang - Bad Touch 410,000

88. Atomic Kitten - The Tide Is High 409,000

89. Eric Prydz - Call On Me 408,000

90. Scooter - The Logical Song 407,000

91. Holly Valance - Kiss Kiss 406,000

92. McFly - Youve Got A Friend / All About You 404,000

93. Melanie C ft. Lisa Lopes - Never Be The Same Again 403,000

94. Sugababes - Push The Button 403,000

95. Madonna - Music 401,000

96. Timbaland Ft Keri Hilson & D.O.E - The Way I Are 399,000

97. True Steppers ft. Dane Bowers & Victoria Beckham - Out Of Your Mind 394,000

98. Ronan Keating - Life Is A Rollercoaster 391,000

99. Westlife - What Makes A Man 390,000

100. Akon - Lonely 388,500

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awww, poor Alexz, I mean Brit/Jesus :lol::demonic:

Why? It's doing fine by Britney standards and it will most likely outsell Blackout's opening shrug.gif

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HMV London has a load of the pic disc now. They were late getting them in stock. What a fiasco this whole release is.

I heard MA once on Radio 1 and twice as the backing to a news report. She needs two years off to get herself together!

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said it once and will say it again... the '00s by FAR produced the biggest crapfest of music of *any* decade lol. looking at most of those songs above (aside from some of those M songs and a handful of others), even the UK wasnt immune

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1. Will Young - Evergreen/Anything Is Possible 1,800,000

2. Gareth Gates - Unchained Melody 1,400,000

3. Shaggy - It Wasn't Me 1,190,000

4. Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas 1,140,000

5. Tony Christie - Is This The Way To Amarillo 1,135,000

6. Kylie Minogue - I Can't Get You Out Of My Head 1,100,000

7. Shayne Ward - That's My Goal 1,081,000

8. Hear'Say - Pure & Simple 1,075,000

9. Bob The Builder - Can We Fix It 1,009,000

10. Atomic Kitten - Whole Again 960,000

That top 10 is truly tragic, isn't?

Bolded ones are specially awful.

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MY RESPONSE IN CAPITALS............

1. Will Young - Evergreen/Anything Is Possible 1,800,000..........I BARELY REMEMBER THIS....HARD TO IMAGINE IT SOLD NEARLY 2 MILLION......BOTH WILLYOUNG AND GARETH GATES PUT LEONA, SHANE WAD TO SHAME BECAUSE THEY SOLD 1.8MILL, 1.2MILL WITHOUT A XMAS MARKET AND LESS PUBLICITY........

2. Gareth Gates - Unchained Melody 1,400,000

3. Shaggy - It Wasn't Me 1,190,000............WOW NO3? THIS WAS ACE...WHERE IS HE NOW?

6. Kylie Minogue - I Can't Get You Out Of My Head 1,100,000 CANT BELIEVE THIS WAS OUT 7 YEARS AGO...KYLIE ON A HIGH......

7. Shayne Ward - That's My Goal 1,081,000 HORRIBLE BUT IM SURPRISED THIS SOLD MORE THAN BOTH LEONA SONG

8. Hear'Say - Pure & Simple 1,075,000 EVEN THIS OUTSOLD THE LEONATHATTOO WITHOUT A XMAS MARKET..........WHERE ARE THEY ALL NOW?

10. Atomic Kitten - Whole Again 960,000 THIS SO HIGH EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NO1 IN JAN/FEB?

11. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy 940,000 IS THIS THE HIGHEST PLACED "CREDIBLE" SONG HERE?

*12. Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love 925,700 THIS OUTSOLD HER DEBUT?

13. Leona Lewis - A Moment Like This 840,000

*14. Enrique Iglesias - Hero 785,300 I REMEMBER SEEING THIS VIDEOAT A FRIENDS HOUSE....IS IT ALMOST 7 YEARS OLD TOO?

15. DJ Otzi - Hey Baby 776,000 CRAP

16. Westlife - Uptown Girl 760,000 THIS SHITE SOLD THIS MUCH?

17. Nelly & Kelly Rowland - Dilemma 750,000/700,000?

18. Eminem ft Dido - Stan 750,000

19. S Club7 - Don't Stop Moving 740,000

20. All Saints - Pure Shores 720,000 NEARLY 9 YEARS OLD I GUESS? AMAZING SONG.....

21. Baha Men - Who Let The Dogs Out 707,000 THESE GUYS WERE KINDA SEXY RIGHT?

22. Elvis vs JXL - A Little Less Conversation 695,000 I HATES THIS

*23. X Factor Finalists – Hero 674,420 2 HEROS IN THE TOP100.....THIS SONG IS CRAP

24. Sonique - Feels So Good 650,000 ANOTHER CREIDBLE SONG IN THE LIST.....HARD TO BELIEVE THIS WAS BIG IN THE USA BEFORE THE UK....

25. Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love 628,000

26. S Club 7 - Never Had A Dream Come True 620,000

27. Robbie Williams - Rock DJ 615,000 ONE OF HIS BEST EVER

28. Shakira - Whenever Wherever 615,000 GREAT, UNIQUE SONG....BUT ITS HIGHER THAN HER LONG LAST NO1...

*29. Rihanna - Umbrella 609,000 SO LONG AT NO1 BUT SO LOW ON TE CHARTS.....GNARLS BARRKELY WAS NO1 FOR 9 WEEKS AND RELEASED ONLY A YEAR BFORE...

30. James Blunt - You're Beautiful 606,000 WHERE IS HE NOW?

31. Girls Alound - Sound Of The Underground 605,000 I HATE THIS SONG TOO

32. Shaggy -Angel 589,000 2 SHAGGY SONGS.......I THINK SHAGGY HAD 4 NO1'S INT HE UK RIGHT? OH CAROLINA, BOOMBASTIC, ANGEL, IT WAS NT ME RIGHT?

33. Las Ketchup - Ketchup Song 583,000 I KNOW ITS CHEESEY BUT I LOVE THIS SONG

34. Spiller ft Sophie Ellis Bexter - Groovejet (Why Does It Feel So Good) 583,000 ITS HARD TO IMAGINE THIS TIMELESS CLASSIC IS OVER 8 YEARS OLD..... I WONT FORGET THAT SUMMER.....AND THEN THAT BATTLE WITH POSH SPICE....

35. Gareth Gates -Anyone Of Us (Stupid Mistake) 575,000

36. Eamon - f*** It (I Don't Want U Back) 569,000

37. Michael Andrews Ft Gary Jules - Mad World 569,000

*38. Shakira - Hips Don't Lie 569,000 OUTSOLD BY HER HER NON NO1....IT WAS ON CHART FOR AGES BUT IMSURPRISED ITSLOW AS THIS...

39. Leann Rimes - Can't Fight The Moonlight 560,000 THIS WAS NO1 FOR JUST A WEEK RIGHT?

40. Gareth Gates Ft The Kumars - Spirit In The Sky 558,000

41. Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag 553,000 I LOVED THIS SONG.....I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT...

42. Crazy Frog - Axel F 550,000

*43. Take That - Rule The World 547,400 THS OUTSOLD PATIENCE AND IT STILL SELLS? IF IT CONTINUES SELLING AT THIS RATE IT MAY EVEN MOVE UPTO NO 39

44. Fragma - Tocas Miracle 533,000 (Not including 2008 remix sales)

45. Daniel Bedingfield - Gotta Get Thru This 530,000 WHERE IS HE NOW.....HIS SISTER STOLE HIS LIMELIGHT....THIS SONG WAS ACE....

46. Mika - Grace Kelly 528,000

47. Eminem - Without Me 527,000................HE HAS QUITE A FEW SONGS HERE....

*48. Nickelback - Rockstar 527,200..........GREAT SONG......IT KEEPS SELLINGWILL IT MOVE UPTO NO 44 AT LEAST?

49. Afroman - Because I Got High 521,000 I CANT BELIEVE I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS TOO LOL

*50. Duffy - Mercy 518,150

51. Madonna - Hung Up 517,000 UP UNTIL A WEEK OR 2 AGO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN NO50.....HOPE IT DOES NT GET LOWER THAN NO 60 BY DECADE END

52. Eminem - Lose Yourself 516,000 3 SONGS?

*53. Will Young - Leave Right Now 516,000

54. R Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 505,000

*55. Take That - Patience 503,000 ITS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT BOTH PATIENCE AND HUNG UP WERE RELEASED WITHIN A YEAR OF EACH OTHER AND BOTH NO1 FOR 3/4 WEEKS ANDTOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE XMAS MARKETS ALTHOUGH PATIENCE WAS ON CHARTS FOR LONGER AND KEEPS RECHARTING YET IT SOLD 14,000 LESS THAN HUNG UP......IT WAS THERE COME BACK SONG TOO

56. Liberty X - Just A Little 501,000 THIS WAS SEXY.....SHAME THE PUBLIC GOT BORED OF THEM...

57. Scissor Sisters - I Don't Feel Like Dancin 500,000

58. Daniel Bedingfield - If You're Not The One 494,000

59. Ronan Keating - If Tomorrow Never Comes 493,000

60. Nickelback - How You Remind Me 491,000 CLASSIC TOO.....CANT BELIEVE NICLEBACK GOT 2 NON NO1'S IN THE TOP 60....

61. Craig David - Fill Me In 490,000 ONCE UPON A TIME HE WAS MASSIVE BUT NOW HE IS NOTHING....WHAT HAPPENEDTO HIM? HE IS SO MINOR NOW.

*62. Mark Ronson & Amy Winehouse- Valerie 490,000 CANT BELIEVE THIS IS SO HIGH....THIS DID NT GET PAST NO3 RIGHT

63. Pussycat Dolls - Don't Cha 488,000#

64. S Club 7 - Reach 485,000

*65. Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars 482,600 IS THIS THE LOWEST PEAKING SONG ON THE CHART?

*66. Leon Jackson - When You Believe 480,500 XFACTOR WINNER 2007 HAS NOT MANAGED TO SHIFT 500,00? EXCELLENT NEWS. SLOWLY THE X-FACTOR HOLD ON THE XMAS CHARTS WILL DIE.............HIS CAREER SEEMS TO BE OVER BEFORE HE HAS EVEN STARTED...

67. Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood 477,000

68. DJ Pied Piper & The M.O.C. - Do You Really Like It? 476,000 iI HATE THIS

*69. DJ Sammy - Heaven 471,000

70. Kelly and Ozzy Osbourne - Changes 471,000

71. Christina Aguilera/Mya/ Pink & Lil Kim- Lady Marmalade 465,000

72. Gabrielle - Rise 458,000

73. Eminem - The Real Slim Shady 457,000 4 SONGS

74. Modjo - Lady 456,000 CLASSIC!

*75. Timbaland & One Republic - Apologize 452,250

*76. Estelle feat. Kanye West – American Boy 450,825

77. Nizlopi - JCB Song 450,000

*78. Sugababes - About You Now 450,000 THIS THEIR BEST SELLING SONG EVER?

*79. Katy Perry – I kissed a girl 443825

*80. Basshunter – Now You’re Gone 439,500

81. Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again 439,000 IM SURPRISED TOXIC ISNT ON THE LIST?

82. Destiny's Child - Independent Women 438,000

83. Geri Halliwell - It's Raining Men 426,000 IS THIS THE FIRST SOLO SPICE SONG?

*84. Madonna and Justin Timberlake – Four minutes 425,500 WILL THIS SURPASS GERI HALLIWELL?

85. Craig David - 7 Days 419,500

*86. Sam Sparro – Black & Gold 419,300 DONE WELL

87. Bloodhound Gang - Bad Touch 410,000 WAS THIS A TOP 10 SONG ?

88. Atomic Kitten - The Tide Is High 409,000 YUCK!

89. Eric Prydz - Call On Me 408,000

90. Scooter - The Logical Song 407,000

91. Holly Valance - Kiss Kiss 406,000 I FORGOT ABOUT HER TOO.......IM SURPRISED SHE MADE IT ON THE LIST.....400,000 IS NT BAD

92. McFly - Youve Got A Friend / All About You 404,000 LOADS OF NO1'S BUT ONLY 1 ON THE LIST...

93. Melanie C ft. Lisa Lopes - Never Be The Same Again 403,000 MORE SOLO SPICE...CANT BELIEVE THIS IS 9 YEARS OLD ALMOST.....THIS TURNED HER ALBUM......HER 2 POP SONGS WERE NO1'S , HER ROCK SONGS DID NT DO WELL YET SHE JUST WANTED TO DO ROCK LOL....

94. Sugababes - Push The Button 403,000

95. Madonna - Music 401,000 I GUESS THIS WILL FALL OFF THE 100....CANT BELIEVE ITS OVER 8 YEARS OLD TOO

96. Timbaland Ft Keri Hilson & D.O.E - The Way I Are 399,000

97. True Steppers ft. Dane Bowers & Victoria Beckham - Out Of Your Mind 394,000 VB HAS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.....ALL THE HYPE AROUND THIS SONG....ALL THAT PROMO.....GOOD SALES....BUT SHE NEVER ACHIEVED THAT SOLO NO1..

98. Ronan Keating - Life Is A Rollercoaster 391,000 ONE OF HIS BETTER SONGS

99. Westlife - What Makes A Man 390,000

100. Akon - Lonely 388,500

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