Alexz Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I've never heard of a city named Scotland? Where is it? Varsovie also sounds very interesting... did you mean Warsaw? You know exactly what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gintonic Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 from wikipedia Drowned World Tour gross 76,792,245 million USD Re-Invention World Tour gross 124,790,787 million USD Madonna's Sticky & Sweet 08 tour become the sixth largest grossing tour of all time following:- 1. Rolling Stones' (558 million USD) for the 2005-7 Bigger Bang tour with 144 shows. 2. U2's (389 million USD) for the 2005-6 Vertigo tour with 133 concerts. 3. The Police's (350 million USD) for their 151-concert 2007-8 reunion tour. 4. Rolling Stones' (320 million USD) gross for its 1994-5 The Voodoo Lounge Tour for 128 shows. 5. Rolling Stones' (312 million USD) gross from their 2002-3 Licks tour with over 121 shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt420 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Madonna's Sticky & Sweet 08 tour become the sixth largest grossing tour of all time following:- 1. Rolling Stones' (558 million USD) for the 2005-7 Bigger Bang tour with 144 shows. 2. U2's (389 million USD) for the 2005-6 Vertigo tour with 133 concerts. 3. The Police's (350 million USD) for their 151-concert 2007-8 reunion tour. 4. Rolling Stones' (320 million USD) gross for its 1994-5 The Voodoo Lounge Tour for 128 shows. 5. Rolling Stones' (312 million USD) gross from their 2002-3 Licks tour with over 121 shows. So she will indeed hold the title for solo artist with the highest grossing tour. NICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I think both tour and album will be 2010 next time around, actually. LiveNation will probably have a little trick up their sleeve that way - as in release the album the exact same week the tour kicks off, thus minimising useless album promo for M (which we know she doesn't enjoy) and maximising exposure for the album and the tour. Two birds with one stone. They'll probably also sell the new album at the show as well. OMG I should work for LiveNation. OH GAWD!!! The whole crowd won't even be able to relate to 50% of the songs... It's true that some of the people that went to the concert may not even own hard candy and haven't heard it til the concert but imagine if all of crowd don't even know the song she is singing... I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 OH GAWD!!! The whole crowd won't even be able to relate to 50% of the songs... It's true that some of the people that went to the concert may not even own hard candy and haven't heard it til the concert but imagine if all of crowd don't even know the song she is singing... I don't think so... I'm not saying 'release the album on the same day as the tour kicks off', but within weeks (maybe a month) of each other. Let's face it, when she does those little promo shows most people know all the words to the songs before the album's been out because it has leaked. Maybe they could arrange an advance digital release of the album or something. Anyway, it can work out and I'm sure LiveNation will be doing something along those lines. She simply doesn't sell as many records anymore, so it's time to shake up the game. You all need to chill out a minute and think about what I'm suggesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 well maybe they should release a song a few months before, ala Live to tell (or Kylie when she was with SAW), and then a "lead" single with a fast second/third one, ala womanizer/Circus,Violet hill/Viva la vida or If I were a boy/all the single ladies...and a month or two later, the tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebastard Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Sure she doesn't sell that many records anymore but who does? The hottest acts right now are selling a little bit more lol She's in the top 10 selling albums of 2008 worldwide with Hardy Candy & Confessions sold great just 2 years ago in a better time. Panic mode isn't necessary. Who gives a flying f*ck about album sales Madonna doesn't when she's raking it in the touring biz(hundreds of millions of dollars). All she needs is to release *1* hit or mega hit and boom her next tour will be a huge success That's the new game. P.S Aside from say 5 acts who are enjoying good numbers like say Rihanna,Britney, Coldplay their worldwide sales aren't that great and that's because of the overall market as we know. Madonna's Hard Candy is a success for 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 $280M gross from a world tour is like selling 28M copies worldwide if averaged at $10US per album... nowadays, worlwide top-selling albums rake 6-8M copies, that's just $60M-$80M, and that is really hard to achieve nowadays... if record companies would want high single sales and album sales, i'd still go with the idea of releasing 3-4 singles before the actual album is released... i mean, let's say she already has 3 good songs recorded, release it (2010) Feb, May, August then the 4th single coincides with the album release in the 4th quarter of 2010, then tour.... Fans will still buy that I am sure... nowadays, it's hard to have great numbers for the 2nd singles and above because it's already downloadable upon the album release that usually follows the first single release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 it seems that we are going back to the 60´s, when the albums were ony a compilation of singles plus some fillers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heartmadonna. Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 im so happy for her! but i cant believe this was the tour to break the records, shes always coming back stronger and harder each album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'm not saying 'release the album on the same day as the tour kicks off', but within weeks (maybe a month) of each other. Let's face it, when she does those little promo shows most people know all the words to the songs before the album's been out because it has leaked. Yeah, but those promo shows bring out the hardcore fans - not really a group that would goose album sales since it is likely they are first day buyers anyway. Anyway, it can work out and I'm sure LiveNation will be doing something along those lines. She simply doesn't sell as many records anymore, so it's time to shake up the game. Well, she still had the second best opening week worldwide of the year. I am not sure how touring *immediately* would change that much, in fact, I am not sure what kind of impact it would have at all. She can still reach more people by doing TV promo (potentially millions of viewers worldwide via the Internet) during an album's initial promo than by 2 or 3 concerts a week (even if they are stadium shows). Not only that, but considering it takes a good 3 months to prepare for a tour, we would probably be guaranteed absolutely NO album launch promotion if she was sequestered in a dance rehearsal studio right before a release date. I think the logistics for such a plan would be difficult to implement with the effects you are hoping they will achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitch Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Is it the Michael Jackson history tour? No, that one grossed about $160+ million. I remember vaguely hearing it's some country singer, if I'm not mistaken. Well, when Billboard will release its final numbers and will make an article about M breaking the record, they would probably state whose record she broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahedum Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Is it the Michael Jackson history tour? From Wikipedia history tour gross 163 million USD Bruce Springsteen Magic tour gross 235 million USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 it seems that we are going back to the 60´s, when the albums were ony a compilation of singles plus some fillers I have no idea that's how they do it in the 60s... but if it means going back to that style to get good reception for your 3-4 initial singles then why not... I'd want to read what is HG's, BR's, thebigham's, Hafo's (and other chart geeks) take on this idea, it's always nice to hear their insights on this matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrozenLight Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 SOUTH AMERICAN GROSSES!! Look at Argentina (it's higher than the Paris gross!!) 1 Madonna, Paul Oakenfold Estadio River Plate Buenos Aires, Argentina Dec. 4-5, 7-8, 2008 $18,274,292 263,693 / 263,693 4 / 4 $181.36, $27.35 Live Nation Global Touring/Time For Fun 2 Madonna Estadio Nacional Santiago, Chile Dec. 10-11, 2008 $11,385,499 146,242 / 146,242 2 / 2 $314.87, $35.33 Live Nation Global Touring/Time For Fun 3 Madonna, Paul Oakenfold Foro Sol Mexico City, Mexico Nov. 29-30, 2008 $10,428,743 104,270 / 104,270 2 / 2 $296.44, $20.85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrozenLight Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The means that there was an average of 66K people per date in Buenos Aires and 73K each night in Santiago!! Incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hafo Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Wow! Look at the average gross in Mexico City! Almost same gross as Santiago with 40,000 less people! Doing the maths, had she played for the same audience as in Buenos Aires, gross would be close to $26M! Brazil sales will be impressive... For 8 dates in Latin America: Gross - $40.088.534 Attendance - 514.205 To date: Gross - $247.670.064 Attendance - 2.033.652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrozenLight Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It's amazing that over a quater million people went to see her in one single city!! It's mindblowing!! And I agree that she could have easily sold out 4 stadium dates in Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrozenLight Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I wonder if Sao Paulo will have a higher gross than Buenos Aires (though she has 3 dates in Sao Paulo but the stadium is bigger). I'm thinking Rio will gross around $12 million and Sao Paulo anywhere from $15 to $20 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Live nation report: 2,350,282 million fans and sold over (USD)280,000,000 in tickets. So,To date: Gross - $247.670.064 Attendance - 2.033.652 The Brazilian audience: 316.630 tickets and a $32M gross IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitch Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Madonna Rules The World, Too Tuesday, 30 December 2008 Madonna not only topped North American ticket sales in 2008 but duplicated the feat worldwide as well, grossing $281.6 million with 2.34 million tickets sold across the globe. Celine Dion was second, as she was in the North American Pollstar tally, with totals of $236.6 million and 1.8 million ducats moved. Bon Jovi racked up $176 million from 1.83 million fans, fellow New Jersian Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band followed with $166 million grossed from 1.64 million turnstiles rung, and The Police rounded out the Top 5 with $120.6 million and 1.13 million tickets sold. The rest of Pollstar?s Worldwide Top 10 is filled out by Neil Diamond with $94.8 million in grosses; Eagles, $86.6 million; André Rieu, $76.9 million; Kenny Chesney, $72.2 million and Coldplay, $71.9 million. How did 2008 numbers stack up against 2007? Glad you asked. Madge edged Sting and the boys, 2007?s top worldwide tour, in total tickets sold. The Police topped last year?s list with 2.23 million. http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive.../30/633301.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boytoyville Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 ^ Fantastic. Well there you have it. Celine came in at a distant second. Interesting that they included the numbers not reported to billboard. There we have it once and for all Madonna killed her tour gross with 73 less shows as I predicted she would months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Amazing #s! And HAHA @ the foolish fans here and on other forums who said awhile ago that it wouldn't be worthwhile for her to tour in "3rd world" Latin America! Can't wait for Brazil's stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 WELL DONE to OUR QUEEN M-Do$$a must go to Latin America again for the next tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Amazing figures! Its easy to see why she probably skipped Australia in favour of Latin America. She will definitely include Latin Ameria on the next tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Do you realize that Celine will top Sticky&Sweet according to Pollstar? -Sticky&Sweet Tour: $281.6 million with 2.34 million tickets sold across the globe. COMPLETED. -Taking Chances Tour: $236.6 million and 1.8 million ducats moved. 25 SHOWS LEFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Do you realize that Celine will top Sticky&Sweet according to Pollstar? -Sticky&Sweet Tour: $281.6 million with 2.34 million tickets sold across the globe. COMPLETED. -Taking Chances Tour: $236.6 million and 1.8 million ducats moved. 25 SHOWS LEFT. It's the first time Pollstar reveals worldwide numbers, everyone always used the Billboard boxscores before, so I don't know how it's going to be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hafo Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Not to convert this into a Celine thread, but here's the info. Mods, feel free to move this to another thread if deemed necessary. Gross for Celine's shows in the US have averaged $1.5M - 19 of her concerts are scheduled in the US so that'd be $27 million. Total: $263M. The remaining 6 shows are in Canada - Windsor, Quebec City and Montreal. Average in Canada is $2.5 million, so that'd put her in the $279M vicinity. Some of her gross in the US may be lower because of the markets she's visiting, and not sure about the capacity of the Windsor and Quebec City venues. However, she was massive in Montreal. So it's a matter to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUR2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It's the first time Pollstar reveals worldwide numbers, everyone always used the Billboard boxscores before, so I don't know how it's going to be dealt with. Pollstar suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUR2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Jan 3, 2009 Sprint Center Kansas City, USA Jan 5, 2009 American Airlines Center Dallas, USA Jan 7, 2009 AT&T Center San Antonio, USA Jan 9, 2009 Toyota Center Houston, USA Jan 10, 2009 New Orleans Arena New Orleans, USA Jan 13, 2009 Sommet Center Nashville, USA Jan 15, 2009 BJCC Arena Birmingham, USA Jan 17, 2009 Philips Arena Atlanta, USA Jan 20, 2009 RBC Center Raleigh, USA Jan 23, 2009 American Airlines Arena Miami, USA Jan 28, 2009 St. Pete Times Forum Tampa, USA Jan 30, 2009 BankAtlantic Center Fort Lauderdale, USA Jan 31, 2009 Coliseo De Puerto Rico San Juan, Puerto Rico Feb 2, 2009 BOK Center Tulsa, USA Feb 4, 2009 Scottrade Center St. Louis, USA Feb. 7, 2009 The Colosseum at Caesars Windsor, Canada Feb 9, 2009 Pepsi Coliseum Quebec City, Canada Feb 10, 2009 Pepsi Coliseum Quebec City, Canada Feb 12, 2009 Bell Centre Montreal, Canada Feb 14, 2009 Bell Centre Montreal, Canada Feb 15, 2009 Bell Centre Montreal, Canada Feb 20, 2009 HP Pavillion San Jose, USA Feb 22, 2009 EnergySolutions Arena Salt Lake City, USA Feb 24, 2009 Pepsi Center Denver, USA Feb 26, 2009 Qwest Center Omaha Omaha, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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