Pink Matter Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Back when the movie came out I was a teenager and me and my friends loved it, we loved Madonna and Ruppert Now if I'd have to chose my favourite Madonna movie it would be Desperately seeing Susan, I think :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkspur Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 And man, Madonna cannot act But on a more serious note, the plot was actually touching and I can say that I cried at the end How do others feel about this film, besides Madonna's non-existent acting? No need to cross out your real feelings for Madonna. Express Yourself. Regarding The Next Best Thing I agree with others about not liking the way it changes in the middle of the film. The story is weak and depressing and I don't much like her charactor as the movie progresses. Madonna has been wonderful in several films...Desperately Seeking Susan, Evita, A League Of Their Own, Dick Tracy...I think when Madonna can relate to a role on some level she is wonderful. Although I think the movie is somewhat weak I enjoy Who's that Girl mostly because of Madonna's performance in it. I believe that Warren Beatty mentioned something about Madonna's "choices" in films and Sean said something about her ability as an actress as untapped. I think I agree with both. Madonna has not always made the best choices film wise. There are all kinds of acting methods...some actors can only pull a role off if what they are conveying is close to their heart. Some can become any charactor and make them believable. I think Madonna is stubborn when it comes to acting. As a director I haven't seen her first film but W.E. totally has her heart in the idea of that kind of love story. I think the movie is about the love story and I think Madonna values unconditional love. I believe that's why the film works for her. It's a good film but has not been critiqued fairly by some and they know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whatatramp Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 f*ck it I'm gonna watch TNBT tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Madonna was fantastic in Dangerous game although the movie was depressing and second rate. I loved her in Desperately Seeking Susan, Evita, Dick Tracey and a League of their own. I agree with Larkspur that when the role suits her and she can relate to it, she is great. However, some of her performances in other movies leave a lot to be desired. I hated Swept away. Shanghai Surprise was dreadful and she looked terrified ( although I thought she looked incredibly beautiful ) and she just did not act well at in in the Next best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Nobody's denying her lack of skills in the acting department (although she was pretty good in Evita and pretty awesome in ALOTO and Dangerous Game). But Swept Away is my favorite guilty pleasure of her acting career! She's hilarious in it TNBT... meh; it was good when it came out but I can't watch it these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I LOVE Madonna but her acting is sometimes off. How can you guys not see that? The Will and Grace episodes are up there in the most cringe. The WHOLE of TNBT, shanghai surprise, shocking. We all know her best acting project is ALOTO! those you mention: yes. those are obvious. but when it comes to the other movies I find her just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkspur Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Madonna was fantastic in Dangerous game although the movie was depressing and second rate. I loved her in Desperately Seeking Susan, Evita, Dick Tracey and a League of their own. I agree with Larkspur that when the role suits her and she can relate to it, she is great. However, some of her performances in other movies leave a lot to be desired. I hated Swept away. Shanghai Surprise was dreadful and she looked terrified ( although I thought she looked incredibly beautiful ) and she just did not act well at in in the Next best thing. You mentioned also about Madonna looking terrified in Shanhai Surprise. I think she lacks confidence sometimes in films and it shows. I have heard people say Madonna is arrogant but I don't think she is arrogant at all. I think if she had more confidence she would even amaze herself as to what she is capable of doing. I believe that in other areas as well. Not that I don't think Madonna is confident, I just don't think she always feels that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Shanghai surprise when's she's in the duck pen and had to cry. Terrible. Swept Away when she's walking on the stony beach. You can see her thinking. She's so wooden at times. Even at the end of 'like a prayer' when she's had to mouth ' he didn't do it''. This is so true. Its amazing to me how she can be so wooden when it comes to acting with words, but when it comes to acting through song whether in Evita or her music videos, she couldn't come across more real and authentic even if she wanted to. Like has been said though, she has had her moments where she was great like in A League of Their Own. I think working off of Rosie probably put her more at ease and not so stuck in her head as well since they both clicked so well. Allowed her to be more comfortable and free. Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Poor Ivy. Who asks for a refund at a movie? What a joy to be around!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Poor Ivy. Who asks for a refund at a movie? What a joy to be around!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Wasn't it Dennis Hopper who said Madonna needed to be roughed up on a set to deliver a good performance, something like "Unless you get rough with her, you'll get nothing out of her on a film set"? She was indeed quite wonderful in Dangerous Game/Snake Eyes. I always felt Madonna wasn't a bad actress, just an actress lost in the wrong era: she probably would have been the number 1 actress in the 1920s. Those amazing eyes and slightly over-the top, not-so-subtle, appliqué acting would have made her just perfect for that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I read an interview with Lori Petty ( ALOTO and now Orange Is The New Black ) today and she said.. "Working with Madge on A League of Their Own: “That was the height of all Madonna-ness. She was the hardest-working woman I’ve ever met. She’d get up in the morning, run eight miles, and then come to work. She was never a diva. Ever. And she gave me a very nice vibrator for a wrap gift.” http://www.celebitchy.com/370323/lori_petty_on_hollywood_ageism_if_i_was_a_dude_id_have_johnny_depps_island/ Love how so many years later people STILL ask actors and actresses in interviews "What was it like to work with Madonna?" when they were in whatever project with her. Tom Hanks. Massive star. Why not ask her was it was like to work with Tom Hanks? Geena Davis? Eh. Why ask about her. This goes with what I said awhile ago. How Madonna is those one of a kind people who has bared their heart and soul for decades, yet there is still this huge mysterious other worldly quality about her that leads people to want to know MORE AND MORE. A true one of a kind mega star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think she's marvelous. Drew Barrymore is no better an actress nor is Sharon Stone or Melanie Griffith. THE END. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think she's marvelous. Drew Barrymore is no better an actress nor is Sharon Stone or Melanie Griffith. Agreed about Barrymore and especially Griffith, but Sharon Stone's rare moments of brilliance are beyond what Madonna's ever delivered on screen imo. What she did in Scorsese's CASINO was astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It basically is a Lifetime movie (one even had a similar plot before TNBT was released). And, one of her worst acting performances- as she recited the lines, it was how it would sound if she were trying to memorize them in her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Poor Ivy. Who asks for a refund at a movie? What a joy to be around!!!! We were tidley but boy did that movie cure that. The only other time I asked for a refund was during bridesmaids, the cinema lights come on half way during the movie, we all complain to the attendant, nothing is done and then they decide to switch the lights off when the movie finishes so we are all ( about 8 ) exiting the cinema in the dark, morons! The most unforgivable thing about the TNBT was that she sacrificed her Ray of Light / Bedtime Story tour for that piece of shit! FORSHAME Madonna FORSHAME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Terrible terrible movie : bad acting from everybody, bad script, awful direction. She should have toured for Ray of Light instead of this shit. I remember watching it in a theater and feeling like i was watching a car crash with someone i love inside of it AND terrible embarrasment by empathy. Of all the projects she was linked to post Evita why did she chose this one ? She's not a bad actress, she's good when she's in an ensemble cast and not the lead. Never make a movie with as a favour to a friend (Who's that girl, The next best thing) never make a movie with your husband (Shangai surprise, Swept away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think she's marvelous. Drew Barrymore is no better an actress nor is Sharon Stone or Melanie Griffith. Madonna just has a bad rap. Even Drew Barrymore's cameo in Scream blows most off Madge's filmography out the water. Imagine Madonna in Working Girl? Think Nikki Finn in a business suit. Painful. I don't believe a MEGASTAR can ever be a proper actress - able to transform completely and convincingly into another persona. Nor should a MEGASTAR even try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 omg....PUD WHACKER? EROTICA ERA? YESSSS TO BOTH!!! SLAYYYY DADDY! YAAAAS MAMA!!! SLAY YOURSELF BITCH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Even Drew Barrymore's cameo in Scream blows most off Madge's filmography out the water. Imagine Madonna in Working Girl? Think Nikki Finn in a business suit. Painful. I don't believe a MEGASTAR can ever be a proper actress - able to transform completely and convincingly into another persona. Nor should a MEGASTAR even try. imagine drews marble mouth as Susan in DSS. imagine melanies baby talk and constant clearing of her throat as Mae in ALOTO. imagine drew or melanie as EVITA. imagine either of them as sarah jennings in DG. YAAAS MAMA! SLAY YOURSELF BITCH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 THE END. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnino Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 At the time I don't think anyone expected to go from EVITA to.... *hides behind plantpot* "He's REEEALLY doing it. He's LEEEAVING ME!!! " *blink blnk blink* Not to mention being lit like.... Oh MADGE! Couldn't have said it better myself. Good idea. Bad movie. I tried watching it without sound and it improved M's believability immensely. Try it. I don't know why though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 anyway, this is about ABBIE REYNOLDS!!! SHHHHH!!! HUSH HUSH HUSH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnino Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Come to think about it... the script was crap hence if you don't know what they're saying, it seems more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasqual Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 there s no excuse for this movie or many others thats she did... rupert is not bad in the movie even movie is really bad anyway...there are three movies that are good....more than good...seeking susan + a league of their own + evita no matter what others say this is only worth to mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Her best scenes from Swept Away were when she was drunk. When the character demands to be serious that's where she fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY PIG Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 dreadful film and her acting was APPALLING absolutely cringe worthy. Such a shame she chose this crock of shit after her performance in Evita (a film i will never watch again but I can appreciate she was great in it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 imagine drews marble mouth as Susan in DSS. imagine melanies baby talk and constant clearing of her throat as Mae in ALOTO. imagine drew or melanie as EVITA. imagine either of them as sarah jennings in DG. Imagine Shelly Winters as Little Orphan Annie, imagine Madonna not playing.....Madonna etc One bad actress's inability to play another bad actress's best roles just means...they're bad actresses. Drew and Melanie don't for one minute pop into my head when I think of a good actress. But yes, those four roles are the same ones I use to champion Madonna's screen work too. All range from good to excellent. Doesn't make Madonna a good actress though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugbyguy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'd be lost without Madonna's movies, I love them all. Each one of them brings back so many memories for me, of Madonna's life and my own. I enjoy studying her acting performances and watching her in her many era's. I can be objective and yes she has had her moments but she has also had some great moments. She was great in BOE, she carried that entire film, a few crap lines here and there but she was totally believable. DG is exactly the same, she's amazing and I love every scene, she's in. She saves that film from being a totally epic distaste and is the most interesting person in it. I love 1993 Madonna, so unquestionably cool and beautiful. Evita is phenomenal, I can barely find a fault in it tho I think it would have been better if she had played Eva the way she really was. Madonna really softened her up and went a bit overboard with humanising her but she was in major damage control mode. If she'd made the film in 1991 as planned, it would have been a totally different story. Her acting and emoting however is flawless. She's weak in ALOTO and Four Rooms but is also quite charming and engaging as Mae Modabito. Once again she's the most interesting person in that film and saves it from being a nostalgic Lifetime rerun. She's also weak as Abbie in TNBT but I've always had a soft spot for that film. Once again it brings up great memories and it was a fantastic time to be a fan. I saw it at the movies and the audience seemed to really like it and found it quite funny. There were also quite a lot of people in the cinema for it too. Madonna is life in Swept Away and her acting for the most part is strong and engaging. Once again she carries the whole film and there's truly only a couple of cringe moments from her. It's funny, in all her hit films where she's in a supporting role, I find her quite weak but in her bombs I seem to like her acting a whole lot more. The musical numbers in DT are divine and her beauty is astonishing. Some of her scenes are quite good, others are a bit mute and unremarkable. DSS is faultless, need I say anymore. Just perfect. Shanghai Surprise is a bad film that she's generally pretty bad in tho as usual she has a few good moments and looks absolutely gorgeous. She should never have agreed to do this film, same with Who's That Girl which is just a pointless piece of fluff but I do love her in the film and she seems comfortable and in control for the most part. You really do fall in love with Nikki by the end of it which was no doubt the whole point of the script. It's possibly a bit over long though, same with Evita. Both could do with a good edit of about 10 minutes. I think that just about covers things, if I missed anything, that's probably not such a bad thing. Would love to see her try acting again, in a few good supporting roles but no lead characters. I feel that was her biggest mistake in a lot of her choices. Madonna was no doubt aware of the magnitude and scale of her celebrity and probably no doubt, if a little arrogantly chose leading roles because of the size of her celebrity, no doubt thinking she would be able to carry a film(s) based on that celebrity. She should have built her film career slowly with supporting roles instead of jumping straight into lead roles in the 80's and then failing to learn from those early mistakes and making the same mistakes all over again in the 90's and 00's no doubt as a direct result of her success in DSS and again with Evita. She was perhaps but understandably over confident and followed both successful stints up with two bombs. Please act again M, I'm sure many of us miss seeing you up on the big screen every couple of years or so :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Let's face it no one is a Madonna fan because of her acting career. DSS is her best movie, it's everything. Everything about it is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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