Apples388 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Well, "Leebert", it's difficult to take you seriously when you have the Titanic film poster as your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebert Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Well, "Leebert", it's difficult to take you seriously when you have the Titanic film poster as your avatar. What can I say, I'm a sucker for sinking ships! That said, what my taste in movies has to do with my ability to have an opinion on Madonna is beyond me but whatever floats your boat (pun intended!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I don't have an issue with WHAT she wears but WHY she feels she needs to wear it. Maybe she wants to wear that (if she even is.) It's a sporting event and her song has a cheerleading theme. It's a tad predictable imo, that's my only objection, but I have no issue with Madonna dressing young and/or sexy. I used to think it was inappropriate and she should act her age but Madonna herself has changed my mind about that. Quotes like this for example.... "Not only does society suffer from racism and sexism but it also suffers from ageism. Once you reach a certain age you're not allowed to be adventurous, you're not allowed to be sexual. I mean, is there a rule? Are you supposed to just die?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 What can I say, I'm a sucker for sinking ships! That said, what my taste in movies has to do with my ability to have an opinion on Madonna is beyond me but whatever floats your boat (pun intended!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebert Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Maybe she wants to wear that (if she even is.) It's a sporting event and her song has a cheerleading theme. It's a tad predictable imo, that's my only objection, but I have no issue with Madonna dressing young and/or sexy. I used to think it was inappropriate and she should act her age but Madonna herself has changed my mind about that. Quotes like this for example.... I agree with you, really I do, I couldn't care what she wears or how young her fella is, but unfortunately we live in a society that isn't always as open minded and if she dresses like a highschool cheerleader, she will be ridiculed. Now..if Madonna genuinely didn't care what people think then I wouldn't have an issue, I'd say fair do love, good on you! But the simple truth is she's been despearately trying to appeal to a younger audience for the last few years so she obviously does care. Without being inside her head we can't really be sure if she dresses the way she does because she wants to or if she feels she has to in order to remain relevant and succesful within the 'pop' world, therefore reinforcing the built in agesism this society displays by suggesting that youth is desirable and ageing is repulsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I agree with you, really I do, I couldn't care what she wears or how young her fella is, but unfortunately we live in a society that isn't always as open minded and if she dresses like a highschool cheerleader, she will be ridiculed. Now..if Madonna genuinely didn't care what people think then I wouldn't have an issue, I'd say fair do love, good on you! But the simple truth is she's been despearately trying to appeal to a younger audience for the last few years so she obviously does care. Without being inside her head we can't really be sure if she dresses the way she does because she wants to or if she feels she has to in order to remain relevant and succesful within the 'pop' world, therefore reinforcing the built in agesism this society displays by suggesting that youth is desirable and ageing is repulsive. Sounds like you have an issue with how she dresses. Do tell how she should dress to show that aging is desirable and not repulsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeMo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Cheerleaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebert Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Sounds like you have an issue with how she dresses. Do tell how she should dress to show that aging is desirable and not repulsive. Well not dressing like a 15 year old school girl would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I agree with you, really I do, I couldn't care what she wears or how young her fella is, but unfortunately we live in a society that isn't always as open minded and if she dresses like a highschool cheerleader, she will be ridiculed. Now..if Madonna genuinely didn't care what people think then I wouldn't have an issue, I'd say fair do love, good on you! But the simple truth is she's been despearately trying to appeal to a younger audience for the last few years so she obviously does care. Without being inside her head we can't really be sure if she dresses the way she does because she wants to or if she feels she has to in order to remain relevant and succesful within the 'pop' world, therefore reinforcing the built in agesism this society displays by suggesting that youth is desirable and ageing is repulsive. I don't agree. Firstly, as much as Madonna does things to try and stay "relevant" I think she's made her points of view on the matter abundantly clear which indicates that a big part of what she is doing is a finger up at ageism. The notion that she's displaying herself as a sex object to be popular makes no sense. It's more about pushing boundaries, as it has always been with her. If she stops pushing boundaries and starts conforming, that's when she'll become irrelevant. There is no way she's reinforcing ageism, she's just proving that it exists by evoking a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I don't agree. Firstly, as much as Madonna does things to try and stay "relevant" I think she's made her points of view on the matter abundantly clear which indicates that a big part of what she is doing is a finger up at ageism. The notion that she's displaying herself as a sex object to be popular makes no sense. It's more about pushing boundaries, as it has always been with her. If she stops pushing boundaries and starts conforming, that's when she'll become irrelevant. There is no way she's reinforcing ageism, she's just proving that it exists by evoking a response. Agree. And right now, it's pretty clear that she's fighting ageism, and once again opening the path for the younger pop female stars. Madonna "Not only does society suffer from racism and sexism, it also suffers from ageism. Once you reach a certain age you're not allowed to be adventurous, you're not allowed to be sexual. I mean, is there a rule? Are you supposed to just die? I've never been a conformist." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 From Lighthouse (Madonnatribe Forum): I just got the bulletin from The AP Wire and i did sign up for live coverage for us all to enjoy here, as this event is not broadcast on TV.The AP says they'll have writers, photographers and video from the event. I signed up for all three. Images will be delivered in real time. Madonna will preview what's coming up in her show and take questions. Final date and time is TBA, for now it looks like to be on Friday, Feb. 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebert Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I don't agree. Firstly, as much as Madonna does things to try and stay "relevant" I think she's made her points of view on the matter abundantly clear which indicates that a big part of what she is doing is a finger up at ageism. The notion that she's displaying herself as a sex object to be popular makes no sense. It's more about pushing boundaries, as it has always been with her. If she stops pushing boundaries and starts conforming, that's when she'll become irrelevant. There is no way she's reinforcing ageism, she's just proving that it exists by evoking a response. Actually, you make a good point! It's not that I have a problem with the way she dresses, and let's remember I was only referring to the cheerleading outfit that she MIGHT be wearing, it's that I know what's going to come if she does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Actually, you make a good point! It's not that I have a problem with the way she dresses, and let's remember I was only referring to the cheerleading outfit that she MIGHT be wearing, it's that I know what's going to come if she does. Saying "but by God, if I so much as get a whiff or a cheerleading outfit on her I will throw something at the TV" sounds like you're the first person to have an issue if she does. That actually sounds ageist. She's 53 and she shouldn't wear a cheerleader outfit. If she does, I'll throw something at the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Actually, you make a good point! It's not that I have a problem with the way she dresses, and let's remember I was only referring to the cheerleading outfit that she MIGHT be wearing, it's that I know what's going to come if she does. Well it's the same as people worrying about her being critisised for her singing abilities. She's never done a major event and being slated for it because she always brings it with a great performance. Yes there will be haters saying negative things, but I can't imagine the overall buzz being negative. Everything about it we've heard so far sounds like the biggest one off performance she's ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Saying "but by God, if I so much as get a whiff or a cheerleading outfit on her I will throw something at the TV" sounds like you're the first person to have an issue if she does. That actually sounds ageist. She's 53 and she shouldn't wear a cheerleader outfit. If she does, I'll throw something at the TV. Perhaps he doesn't want Madonna to be ridiculed. Meanwhile Madonna herself continues not caring for the 30th year in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leebert Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Perhaps he doesn't want Madonna to be ridiculed. Meanwhile Madonna herself continues not caring for the 30th year in a row Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oh please, i doubt that Madonna will sing live in a big event like that. She will have pre-recorded live vocals and will move a lot dancing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'd be surprised if she didn't sing live (at least for most of it)- I'm sure she wouldn't want to give Sir Elton much ammo. She's going to have a lot of dancers, whatnot, who probably will do much of the dancing in and of itself. She may use prerecorded music, though, unless she just has a couple of basic band members up there. Then again, it's usually the non-spectacle performers who sing live, so who knows. I just don't think M would want to have a lip-synch cloud hanging over her performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutten Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'd be surprised if she didn't sing live (at least for most of it)- I'm sure she wouldn't want to give Sir Elton much ammo. She's going to have a lot of dancers, whatnot, who probably will do much of the dancing in and of itself. She may use prerecorded music, though, unless she just has a couple of basic band members up there. Then again, it's usually the non-spectacle performers who sing live, so who knows. I just don't think M would want to have a lip-synch cloud hanging over her performance. Brian Frasier-Moore (Drummer from S&S) posted on his Facebook that he was part of the show. Seems like she's gonna use her tour band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Brian Frasier-Moore (Drummer from S&S) posted on his Facebook that he was part of the show. Seems like she's gonna use her tour band. Monte Pittman too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has she ever sung VOGUE live? If he hasn't, she has to do that LIVE at the Superbowl, it's not that hard to sing even if you're posing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ditaluver Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 did you not see S&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I really like that Hard Candy wrestling look except for her hair. Her hair ruins what could have otherwise been a photo I'd love. IT IS NOT WRESTLING!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 IT IS BOXING!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 did you not see S&S oh my bad... it's just that the S&S DVD audio is quite so polished it sounded pre-recorded... I hope she sounds a little like that live at the Superbowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Good- hopefully the sound will be good and we can hear actual playing from whatever band members take part. Though there probably will be some sort of playback music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Isn't the sound from the superbowl broadcast usually kinda shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreeyen Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 IT IS NOT WRESTLING!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 IT IS BOXING!!!!! LMAO true. I don't know why I put wrestling. The only reason I wouldn't want Madonna in a cheerleading outfit is because they're ugly and tacky. I would love for her to wear a look that will become iconic, not something that already has a sort of iconography to it. Like the Hung Up leotard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Leotards already had iconography to them. Fame, flashdance, the seventies etc. Madonna is an expert with postmodern references. She even managed to reference herself several times. Her postmodern referencing of MTV vma 1984 at the 2003 vmas was pure genius. I get annoyed with that wrestling thing as a common misconception Hipster. No offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Madonna will probably do the masculine to whatever the theme is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Madonna will probably do the masculine to whatever the theme is Not necessarily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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