Skin Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Why is RHYTHMIC so lukewarm to the song though? Isnt that supposed to be Madonna's playground? Or are they like AC stations, where they jump on a song after its been out awhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tir69 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 we have to thank Z100 for the AudImp gains... they made it their #4 song now... probably because of the concert tickets contest... Z100's Top 3 has more than 90+ spins each... right now MADONNA has 67 spins... I hope KIIS have some tickets for free as well... Thanks Z100 , this not happen with kiis fm , Touch my body is nr 1 on their playlist with 6M in Ai and Bye Bye is around 1.6M , Madonna is only around 2.5M AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ercos Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 any one who already posted this link of sneak previews of HC.. http://www.vh-m.com/madonna/hardcandy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejr. Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Thanks Z100 , this not happen with kiis fm , Touch my body is nr 1 on their playlist with 6M in Ai and Bye Bye is around 1.6M , Madonna is only around 2.5M AI. i wonder y kiis is so inlove with mariah?..and i think that the reason y rhytmic is not fully supportive of 4m is beacause we always talk only bout pop charts...so i guess we have been a little complacent about rhytmic stations...i think that we have to relay the messgae to keep requesting it on rhytmic stations, coz they got a big audience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iasonas Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Do you think that stations in smaller markets look at what z100 is playing? I remember z100 supported first songs like Don't stop the music, U+Ur Hand. I mean they put them top5 on their playlist while the majority of the stations hadn't touched the songs.. Now 4 Minutes is no4. In one day it jumped 4-5 positions due to the competition with the tickets I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 From botoxic: April 17, 2008 Total Spins: 7988 27 at AC 5 at Active Rock 23 at Alternative 626 at Hot AC 5761 at Pop 1209 at Rhythmic 210 at Rhythmic AC 2 at Rock 72 at Latin 53 at Urban Total Impressions: 47.793 million 0.563 at AC 0.023 at Active Rock 0.094 at Alternative 3.021 at Hot AC 35.625 at Pop 5.948 at Rhythmic 1.700 at Rhythmic AC 0.006 at Rock 0.598 at Latin 0.215 at Urban NuStations Yesterday: WOCQ Salisbury ® Hung Up - Day 32 Mon Nov 14 - 788 spins, 4.055 million impressions After 32 days of airplay, 5256 spins, 28.859 million impressions (+65 spins, +0.321 million impressions) 4 Minutes - Day 32 Thu Apr 17 - 1179 spins, 7.26 million impressions (235 stations) After 32 days of airplay, 7988 spins, 47.793 million impressions (+71 spins, +1.192 million impressions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 From bks: With 5 days to go, here's how some of the key songs are shaping up this week on Hot 100 Airplay: No. 1 - Usher (+2.0 million) No. 2 - Mariah (+1.5 million) No. 3 - Jordin (+4.5 million) No. 4 - Ray J (+2.8 million) No. 5 - Lil Wayne (+5.4 million) No. 8 - Leona (+4.4 million) No. 22 - Madonna (+1.6 million) And over on the Streaming chart with 3 days left: No. 1 - Mariah No. 2 - Leona No. 3 - Jordan No. 4 - Madonna No. 5 - Usher No. 7 - Lil Wayne No. 11 - Ray J On the R&B 100, Mariah is trending towards No. 1 right now with Usher at No. 2 (and still increasing) and Jordin jumping into the Top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Work that Z100 M-dolla payola Grandma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixed Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 So we can no longer expect for a number 1 right? chart experts, please manage our expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 If this trend persists it'll be like this by APRIL 22: No. 1 - Usher (+2.0 million) = 146M No. 2 - Mariah (+1.5 million) = 130M No. 3 - Jordin (+4.5 million) = 128M No. 4 - Ray J (+2.8 million) = 126M No. 5 - Lil Wayne (+5.4 million) = 105M?? No. 8 - Leona (+4.4 million) = 95M?? No. 22 - Madonna (+1.6 million) = 46M SHOOT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 4M AI suddenly 'bursts' to 45.5M!!! nice!!! that could possibly end to 48M by Tuesday and thats a #1 potential (along with the 200k plus sales) for 4Minutes!!! is #1 now a possibility???!!! No. Not a #1 possibility this week. Airplay does not weigh as much as you guys seem to think. 1M aud impressions = 1000 sales. Unless 4M starts gaining 20M impressions a week, it's not really going to make much difference in its position. It's all about sales. Sales need to climb a lot with other songs dropping in order for #1 to be a possibility, and the week of the album release is the likeliest time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iMisto Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 No. Not a #1 possibility this week. Airplay does not weigh as much as you guys seem to think. 1M aud impressions = 1000 sales. Unless 4M starts gaining 20M impressions a week, it's not really going to make much difference in its position. It's all about sales. Sales need to climb a lot with other songs dropping in order for #1 to be a possibility, and the week of the album release is the likeliest time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 There's no greater power than the power of Vanity Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 RETARD THAT IS THE CASE IF A CRACKA HAVE TO PUT A NYGGA ON THERE TRACK TO CHART THAN ITS A PROBLEM WITH THE CHARTS DUMB BYTCH AND THE WHITE ARTIST THAT IS CHARTING R NASTY AZZ WIGGERS LIKE SAY FERGIE AND NELLY THOSE HOES HAND WITH NYGGAS TO FIT IN WITH THE GHETTO SO END THAT NON SENSE Are you a poetry major? There's something Emily Bronte-ish about your writings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000mad Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Are you a poetry major? There's something Emily Bronte-ish about your writings. :lmao: :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marsha Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 If this trend persists it'll be like this by APRIL 22: No. 1 - Usher (+2.0 million) = 146M No. 2 - Mariah (+1.5 million) = 130M No. 3 - Jordin (+4.5 million) = 128M No. 4 - Ray J (+2.8 million) = 126M No. 5 - Lil Wayne (+5.4 million) = 105M?? No. 8 - Leona (+4.4 million) = 95M?? No. 22 - Madonna (+1.6 million) = 46M SHOOT!!! 130M and 46M, this gasp is absurd and discredits Airplay. The hot 100 audience souhld be published on Radios&Records's intranet only. And should be called the weekly Hot 100 radio programmers Rot 100, R for Radio. it's not hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebastard Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Z100 NY Friday April 18th 2008 9@9 9. Break The Ice - Britney Spears 8. Sexy Can I - Ray J ft Yung Berg 7. Shake It - Metro Station 6. 4 Minutes - Madonna 5. Leavin - Jesse McCartney 4. Lollipop - Lil' Wayne 3. Forever - Chris Brown 2. Damaged - Danity Kane 1. Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marsha Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 No. Not a #1 possibility this week. Airplay does not weigh as much as you guys seem to think. 1M aud impressions = 1000 sales. Unless 4M starts gaining 20M impressions a week, it's not really going to make much difference in its position. It's all about sales. Sales need to climb a lot with other songs dropping in order for #1 to be a possibility, and the week of the album release is the likeliest time for that. Bad Robot, Airplay seems to weigh much. 150 M AI = 150 points. 150.000 sales = 150 points. Airplay is 50% of the total, no? so it's possible, it's just a theory but, a song selling 0 units with 120M AI sales has a chance to be a Top 10, but a song with no airplay and 40.000 sales can only hope to break top 40. doesn't seem fair. when you buy a song you make a choice, you don't when you're listening a song on radio (request is a joke). so sales should weigh much more in the calcul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted April 19, 2008 Author Share Posted April 19, 2008 Are you a poetry major? There's something Emily Bronte-ish about your writings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madlover033003 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Z100 NY Friday April 18th 2008 9@9 9. Break The Ice - Britney Spears 8. Sexy Can I - Ray J ft Yung Berg 7. Shake It - Metro Station 6. 4 Minutes - Madonna 5. Leavin - Jesse McCartney 4. Lollipop - Lil' Wayne 3. Forever - Chris Brown 2. Damaged - Danity Kane 1. Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis oh no! we need to request more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bad Robot Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Bad Robot, Airplay seems to weigh much. 150 M AI = 150 points. 150.000 sales = 150 points. Airplay is 50% of the total, no? so it's possible, it's just a theory but, a song selling 0 units with 120M AI sales has a chance to be a Top 10, but a song with no airplay and 40.000 sales can only hope to break top 40. doesn't seem fair. when you buy a song you make a choice, you don't when you're listening a song on radio (request is a joke). so sales should weigh much more in the calcul. Airplay does not equal 50% of the total. It equals somewhere between 40-45% probably. Sales make up about 50-55%. Streaming makes up the rest. Airplay has a role clearly but in the case of 4M, it could lose 10M audience impressions in one week and it would only take a 10k gain in sales to offset that. The song is getting about 75-80% of its points from sales, and it will probably stay that way. There's little point in focusing on airplay and requests really. There is NOTHING we can do as individuals regarding that. If you want to make a difference, buy all the remixes separately. That'll take about 2 minutes and maybe $10, and it will do about 1000000x more than all the requesting and streaming people are trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 If you want to make a difference, buy all the remixes separately. That'll take about 2 minutes and maybe $10, and it will do about 1000000x more than all the requesting and streaming people are trying. yes people, this is the way to go... you can request your lungs out at stations but in the end it's stil all up to the radio programmers good luck in convincing them to play 4 M more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Hey Barbiedoll that was HU's peak this song **hasn't** peaked and it's only been 3 weeks.........Get the picture? loves it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroticromance Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 It's amazing to see that one song with 200k downloads for 3 weeks in a row has just the third part of airplay of other songs less successful. This shows how US Radio doesn't represent the common tastes and how payola counts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 This shows how US Radio doesn't represent the common tastes and how payola counts... I really don't think that payola is causing this. Really. If anyone has the promotional budget to buy-off radio, it's Madonna and Warner Bros. There are certain realities at play here - Madonna has been a major superstar for over 20 years (fatigue element), she's almost 50 (age element) and she's a white pop star (race and style elements). I also think a lot of Urban radio programmers see her as part of the "old establishment" and they want to play young, hip acts who their audience identifies with. It's only going to get harder for her as the years pass. I think she's actually doing fantastic at radio. The song has been charting half as long as the other shit in the Top 10 and it made it to the Top 5 about 3x faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eroticromance Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 C'mon, the age is just an excuse. Does it really make difference for you who sings a nice song? Do you change radio station if you realize that the singer doesn't have tits and hips on the cover? Please let's be honest, it's clear that US Radio is just "business". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etips Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 A healthy amount of Madonna’s struggle at radio undoubtedly is age, but most of it IMO is more style, perception, and Madonna herself long falling out of sorts with what is contemporary to the average American radio listener/music buyer. She stayed in euro-dance/electro-pop mode too long, to the point where it made her music seem increasing out of sorts with American tastes and her too eccentric and “niche” a personality for US radio to embrace. I remember back when she was beginning her Drowned World Tour; a local radio station was discussing her coming to town, and the deejay cynically remarked about how she’s “gone techno.” This is most likely the general outlook that many deejays and radio station managers have of her and her music to the point where they don’t think she—stylistically—will fit in with their listener demographic, and so they don’t bother to enthusiastically support it, or at all. For a good while she managed to defy stylistic status quo and still have considerable success with the atypical Ray of Light/Music albums, and the “Beautiful Stranger” and “Die Another Day” singles, but that could only last for so long. And in the meantime, I think Madonna became conceited about what she could get away with because of those successes…and because she was Madonna. Now, even though it seems with this new album that she’s finally returning to the “US top 40” sounding Madonna that she was up until about 1997 (although “Give it 2 Me” may seemingly contradict that), the shadow of her last ten years still colors the general perception of her music…therefore keeping her underdog potential high. IMO, Hard Candy is the album Madonna should have made after Music. I also think that with this album, she should promote (in the US) like crazy. I get the feeling that she and WB thought that, in addition to things like Sunsilks ads/radio interviews, 4M would practically sell itself—with Madonna, JT, and Timbaland all on one track—and it did, but I imagine that if Madonna (and the two Tim’s) had been everywhere promoting it, it would have only helped at radio, sales…and perhaps chart positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 3/17/2008 4.113M AudImps 413 spins 3/18/2008 7.292M AudImps 802 spins --------------------------------------------- 3/19/2008 10.350M AudImp 1246 spins 3/20/2008 13.762M AudImp 1734 spins 3/21/2008 17.341M AudImp 2236 spins 3/22/2008 21.316M AudImp 2825 spins 3/23/2008 24.528M AudImp 3320 spins 3/24/2008 24.657M AudImp 3534 spins 3/25/2008 25.364M AudImp 3796 spins --------------------------------------------- 3/26/2008 26.652M AudImp 4071 spins 3/27/2008 27.908M AudImp 4339 spins 3/28/2008 28.502M AudImp 4555 spins 3/29/2008 29.752M AudImp 4765 spins 3/30/2008 30.560M AudImp 4943 spins 3/31/2008 31.527M AudImp 5159 spins 4/01/2008 32.500M AudImp 5326 spins --------------------------------------------- 4/02/2008 33.352M AudImp 5479 spins 4/03/2008 34.280M AudImp 5622 spins 4/04/2008 35.340M AudImp 5771 spins 4/05/2008 36.495M AudImp 5982 spins 4/06/2008 38.349M AudImp 6255 spins 4/07/2008 39.072M AudImp 6396 spins 4/08/2008 40.175M AudImp 6558 spins --------------------------------------------- 4/09/2008 40.685M AudImp 6714 spins 4/10/2008 40.646M AudImp 6860 spins 4/11/2008 40.825M AudImp 6999 spins 4/12/2008 41.390M AudImp 7093 spins 4/13/2008 42.433M AudImp 7257 spins 4/14/2008 43.272M AudImp 7442 spins 4/15/2008 43.876M AudImp 7566 spins --------------------------------------------- 4/16/2008 44.542M AudImp 7645 spins 4/17/2008 45.495M AudImp 7706 spins 4/18/2008 46.654M AudImp 7834 spins YAY! MADONNA in CHR TOP10, her first since Die Another Day! POP - 144 stations (from yesterday's 144, there are around 140+) MAXED RHYTHMIC - 53 stations (from yesterday's 52, there around 100+ max) HOTAC - 36 stations (from yesterday's 36, there are around 110+ max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iasonas Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 God bless z100!!! It gives the song 6.5M right now! The good thing is that smaller stations follow z100 sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 YAY! MADONNA in CHR TOP10, her first since Die Another Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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