Guest animalinstinct Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I always loved The Guardian. Such a well written piece. It make me so angry when I see other women writing on social media that Madonna should just retire or give it up. Shouldn’t women be looking out for other women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 YES! great article and yes madonna is still making people have discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, Lolasmommy said: Great article BUT I’ve got to thinking...why doesn’t Cher or Dolly Parton face the same animosity as Madonna? i mean Cher & Dolly are both over 70 & still making music/performing whilst still running around in skimpy outfits & keen on maintaining the same beauty looks they had in their youth plus continued surgery... Cher & Dolly don’t get half the shit Madonna does and are generally well loved by all Because Madonna is a provocateur All the others never truly questioned the place of women in the world the way Madonna has. Madonna is hated by the old patriarchal world that it's increasingly slipping away, trying to make one last attempt at self-perpretation Cher or Dolly Parton were never political and confrontational in the capacity Madonna has always been That's why they rarely every got challenged or downright insulted. You couple that with how long she's been around and you get Dolly Parton or Cher never had a WTG/BAT Madonna phase in their respective careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 This article was a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I also think that Cher and Dolly went through those long wilderness years where nobody was interested and their careers flopped. Then they become national treasures and nostalgia acts. Madonna's never disappeared and yes, she's very provocative so people want to see her fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Coffin Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, jonski43 said: I also think that Cher and Dolly went through those long wilderness years where nobody was interested and their careers flopped. Then they become national treasures and nostalgia acts. Madonna's never disappeared and yes, she's very provocative so people want to see her fail. +10000 true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 My favorite quote from the article: "The fact she is still annoying people by doing the job she has been doing for 35 years would suggest she’s a long way from being irrelevant." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiganstarlet Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 13 hours ago, jonski43 said: Guardian journalists (and their readers) are some of the worst for low key sexism, ageism etc It’s true, the majority of the comments are disappointing. Many falling over themselves to reference her age and diminish her talents but trying to be pseudo intellectual and still remain woke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Coffin Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, cardiganstarlet said: It’s true, the majority of the comments are disappointing. Many falling over themselves to reference her age and diminish her talents but trying to be pseudo intellectual and still remain woke. But still, the article is THERE, so these cunts have been made to know that not everyone in the world sings the same ugly tune as them when it comes to Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 15 hours ago, karbatal said: I think she'll have the last laugh. But only if she keeps releasing quality work. When quality is on the table, she has a trump. Couldn't agree more. She will always win if the music is good. If Madame X is as great as the reviews say it is, she will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugbyguy Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Lolasmommy said: Great article BUT I’ve got to thinking...why doesn’t Cher or Dolly Parton face the same animosity as Madonna? i mean Cher & Dolly are both over 70 & still making music/performing whilst still running around in skimpy outfits & keen on maintaining the same beauty looks they had in their youth plus continued surgery... Cher & Dolly don’t get half the shit Madonna does and are generally well loved by all Cher was mercilessly mocked in the 90’s but it all changed after Believe and she decided to tie the line and became sort of mainstream and accepted by the masses. She’s become non threatening hence the backlash against her has stopped and she’s now just considered a legend, think Madonna Confessions era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthecat Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I’m amazed The Guardian have published this? They’re usually publishing scathing article about her. Or just proclaiming that Beyonce is the first female to do anything. Anyway, I agree with every single point! ......does this mean maybe soon we’ll get an interview with M where she’s not asked about age, kids, fame, celebrity and relationships etc??! I wish people would ask her about the actual MUSIC, the creative process, writing, production, visuals, fashion etc.....is it too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fever Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 This was around the time of the brief pause in attacks around her birthday, but nonetheless a good defence from Bidisha. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/aug/13/bigger-than-any-man-she-ever-encountered-the-under-appreciated-genius-of-madonna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiganstarlet Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said: But still, the article is THERE, so these cunts have been made to know that not everyone in the world sings the same ugly tune as them when it comes to Madonna. 100 per cent! X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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