Dindi Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 As much as I hate rushing to judgement, I feel like the short set list she did at Stonewall might even be a better idea than this rumoured one.
Guest dcbyebyebaby Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, boy skeffington said: She sang Love Makes The World Go Round . Well in the 80s people didnt see LMTWGR as a bad song. Times change and songs become dated. It works for some songs and not for others.
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, boy skeffington said: I think if someone said, “M you need to rethink what you are performing to make it more digestible, popular, less divisive..” her response would be ...”f*ck off I am not interested in your opinion of my show” That’s literally been Madonna since 1983-I think she won’t change. I understand it makes her unpopular and it’s head scratching but that’s always been the way she is as an artist. Well sometimes art can be bad, and maybe you need ppl who understand you and your work to tell you that this ain’t it. Ppl have done this with her before and it has worked. Remember when she wanted to have black face for Hard Candy? Artists need to be given proper feedback from trustworthy sources especially when they’re massive pop stars like Madonna. otherwise they just suck. Ppl will start saying Madonna sucks as a performer now, and we won’t have much recent material to point to to rebut it.
boy skeffington Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said: FFS, you are ridiculous here. Out of 3 songs, two of them were amazing performances of HOLIDAY and INTO THE GROOVE. We have no reasons at all to bash Live Aid. I love it all no bashing from me. But how is the possibility of her performing Jimmy Jimmy different from LMTWGR from a popular perspective. It was a response.
Dindi Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 If she was aware of the altered vocals used on her Eurovision upload, she must at least know how that original performance went........And that also dispels the belief that she "doesn't care what people think."
Apples388 Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 @Mensch can you please talk to visionaaron and ask if he can whisper in her ear? I mean this is some fucked up shit setlist!!
Crystal Coffin Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, boy skeffington said: And the “lazy” recycling of Hung Up choreo and props / ROL Confessions guitar performance would be additional outrage. I did not say anything about these two performances in my post that you quoted. I only talked about LIB. It's the same tactic you did with Nikki to prove a point, where you mentioned "Oh she did sing LMTWGR at Live Aid!". It's all a desperate move to demonstrate that as if "She has always given people reasons to bash her right from the beginning!".
lautert Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, karbatal said: I think we Europeans got such a shock with Eurovision that I can't join the meltdown . I mean Eurovision was Pride multiplied by a thousand and we got raw Casio keyboard. She clearly has another point of view as we do Eurovision was horrible, I understand her message, but it was a completely bad decision if she wanted to promote the album. Imagine if she would have done God Control, they would have praised her a lot, probably Madonna X would have more pre-sales and she would not be struggling to get a number one album in many countries as she's doing now. Just look at SuperBowl, she delivered a nice performance with a message, and thanks to that MDNA tour was huge sucessful in North America. If she keeps going on with this not so good performances, it'll only get the general public away from her.
ratzuo Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Crystal Coffin said: She herself provided the reasons for fans (= people who actually GET her, not haters) to bitch. Especially recently. Yes, I get it after this setlist, I actually might get a bit sick if she does LAP again. But it's just this negativity is never ending and about everything really; I mean, some fans bitch about the eyepatch, not as a performance prop (which indeed might be better if she didn't wear onstage) but as it being "gimmicky" according to some. Yeah, surely the leotard, the cowboy hats and good tooth weren't gimmicky, right? Oh, it's just it's 2019 Madonna we're talking about here.
Nikki Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 maybe some people can let that Aaron makeup guy and that manager know. idk if it'll help but at least we can try. if we don't, there's no chance she will reconsider.
lautert Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ai Papi Si. said: Well sometimes art can be bad, and maybe you need ppl who understand you and your work to tell you that this ain’t it. Ppl have done this with her before and it has worked. Remember when she wanted to have black face for Hard Candy? Artists need to be given proper feedback from trustworthy sources especially when they’re massive pop stars like Madonna. otherwise they just suck. Ppl will start saying Madonna sucks as a performer now, and we won’t have much recent material to point to to rebut it. She has always done art with her performances but in a way that at the same time she could deliver what the general public wants for her. It's jut lately that she seems disconected.
Andra Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Nikki said: maybe some people can let that Aaron makeup guy and that manager know. idk if it'll help but at least we can try. if we don't, there's no chance she wont reconsider. You know nothing is going to change her mind no matter how much we complain on her IG or to Aaron, it's useless.
Nikki Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Andra said: You know nothing is going to change her mind no matter how much we complain on her IG or to Aaron, it's useless. Well, there's still a chance. you never know. they just experienced Eurovision, that should be fresh in their minds..
Dindi Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 People will be BORED by this setlist, not offended. That's the difference. I can see the latter making her perform it out of defiance and pushing people's buttons. But I'm sure bored is not the reception she's aiming for. She is still an entertainer.
Andra Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Nikki said: Well, there's still a chance. you never know. they just experienced Eurovision, that should be fresh in their minds.. Clearly not, given she's just about to do a repeat of it.
Nikki Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Andra said: Clearly not, given she's just about to do a repeat of it. well, im the kind of person who tries anyway, just in case.. otherwise I just get annoyed with myself for not at least giving it a chance..
Nikki Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 by the way, what are the two oldies? or maybe just say one.. we can assume LAP MAY be there, but what's the other song? perhaps if she ends with hung up or vogue (predictable, but it works), it wont be so bad?
zephyralexxx Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Andra said: You know nothing is going to change her mind no matter how much we complain on her IG or to Aaron, it's useless. Yep. Don't even bother... This will make her more determined to perform these 2 songs. It is what it is. I am just a little surprise with the lack of promo. Those who are saying she gave so much this era, yes, it's true, but she didn't give exactly what it was needed. Anyway, I have a sad feeling she is more and more insecure performing live.
zephyralexxx Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 LAP into FUTURE (Eurovision-like), VOGUE into I RISE.
Crystal Coffin Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Andra said: Hopefully Vogue...cause if not then so help me god.. Performing "Vogue" in a Joan of Arc costume?
Nikki Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Crystal Coffin said: Performing "Vogue" in a Joan of Arc costume? costume change?
side_streets Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Nikki said: costume change? Hopefully. And she could skip Future. It's an OK song, but a bit lifless for big outdoor events.
Crystal Coffin Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ai Papi Si. said: Ppl will start saying Madonna sucks as a performer Madame X is an album artist
Sloane Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 55 minutes ago, Dr Lecter said: ......She’s making LAP boring We're about an hour and a half past that.
Sloane Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 If she sings Future at Pride I'm buying a gun and shooting myself.
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Idk why any of us are even shocked anymore? of course Madonna picks the 2 most bland songs from the album to showcase to at a once in a lifetime perf. That’s just her vibe these days. Self sabotage.
Gaudet Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Much ado about... nothing more than a rumor right now. A rumor. No official confirmation yet. A lot of you should step away from the wild wild web until Madame X tour starts.
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