avoid the cliche Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well apparently Z100 dropped the song from their playlist. The last play was this past Sunday @ 12:37 am. If this is the case airplay will continue to decrease rapidly. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 No they played L4L everyday apparently...I called yesterday and they told me they had just played it an hour before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why do radio stations drop the song? Because it's not doing well? If they don't play it, keep ignoring requests of course it won't do well. I hope it's not true. Enough with the fucking rolling effect, as if they needed more excuses to not play a new Madonna song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigokane Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 There was a payola deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I can't with the passive agressive titles on this thread. What payola deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 i know, fuck that user! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigokane Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I can't with the passive agressive titles on this thread. What payola deal? When the record label pays radio stations to play the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Dancing With The Stars for the cd release and second single launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iasonas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It was some sort of a deal, just not very strict. There was some flexibility. Do you think all iHeart radio programmers around the country woke up two Saturdays ago and decided they were going to add LFL on their stations all together at the same time? It was an automated add. A corporate decision that had an expiration date from the very beginning. None of those adds was genuine. No wonder why other companies apart from Cumulus did not touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 When the record label pays radio stations to play the song. Erm, I know what a payola deal is. I meant what payola deal is this user talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 imo, but i know i'm wrong, this payola thing is bullshit...if there was a payola it would have worked differently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 imo, but i know i'm wrong, this payola thing is bullshit...if there was a payola it would have worked differently..... GMAYL had payola and the song was inescapable for a few days. This one has enjoyed scattered play at best in some stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 GMAYL had a radio deal to spin it for three days every hour and LFL did not have that for some odd reason....there would have been way more play if it were a payola scheme....it probably just got a call from one of the bosses or ceo's that hold a share in iheartradio. who changed the title? a new comer? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollhouse Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I guess people really aren't feeling the song? I don't get it though. It's as good as anything else on Top 40, and its distinctly unique. It doesn't help that DJs are so automatically ageist against Madonna these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 She should make an interview on Heart Radio. Why no radio, like BBC2 give her a whole hour or two where she'll talk about music and select the records they play ? That would be something new. EDIt : she already did that with Jo Whiley....that's when she talked about When doves cry....but 2 hours of this would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietromaximoff Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 who's listenning to radios? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It was some sort of a deal, just not very strict. There was some flexibility. Do you think all iHeart radio programmers around the country woke up two Saturdays ago and decided they were going to add LFL on their stations all together at the same time? It was an automated add. A corporate decision that had an expiration date from the very beginning. None of those adds was genuine. No wonder why other companies apart from Cumulus did not touch it.It's funny how you previously said this wasn't a deal, and now you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Is there a sales thread? How many sales have there been with the preorder in the US? WW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 who's listenning to radios? Please. Broadcast radio accounted for 52% of all listening time, or just over two hours per day. That figure includes time spent listening to online simulcasts from AM or FM stations. Broadcast radio's place as most favored audio format isn't a surprise. About 92% of Americans age 12 and over listen to broadcast radio, according to Arbitron. Owned music accounted for 20% of listening. Included in this category are CDs, digital downloads, vinyl LPs and, presumably, even cassette tapes. CD listening comprised "a significant" part of the owned music category, according to Edison Research President Larry Rosin. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/6121619/how-and-how-much-america-listens-have-been-measured-for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moka Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It was not payola... Federal law and FCC rules require that employees of broadcast stations, program producers, program suppliers and others who, in exchange for airing material, have accepted or agreed to receive payments, services or other valuable consideration must disclose this fact. The GMAYL deal was announced in a press release by Clear Channel, nothing for LFL. It was only a radio push, not payola... Source : http://www.fcc.gov/guides/payola-rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm sure there was some sort of deal, but it obviously wasn't a straightforward "payola" situation like GMAYL. My guess is that Interscope bundled LFL along with a few other new artists/songs in a package. Not sure what the stations got in return, maybe the guarantee of artists performing at summer radio shows, Jingle Balls, etc. or something different. But there was likely no exchange of money for play. Either way, if people are interested in the song, it would continue on its own. There are lots of other factors at play though - and a 56 year old woman is just not going to enjoy those other factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adirondak Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think Madonna should do a really avant grade album, something that wouldn't get played on radio anyways - then license the songs for commercials, film, popular video games and explore other ways to get the music out there. Madonna shouldn't have to beg for a spot on radio. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 i love how people insist with this payola without proofs or even clues "ok..let's make a payola...play this song randomly sometimes during the day...but not too much please...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniotorres Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think Madonna should do a really avant grade album, something that wouldn't get played on radio anyways - then license the songs for commercials, film, popular video games and explore other ways to get the music out there. Madonna shouldn't have to beg for a spot on radio. Period. Total agreement! I have been thinking and screaming for the same thing. She has to know this and is just being stubborn and don't want to license her music!! She had better get over it,it's the reality of the times even groups with airplay do this. And the days being called sell out is long behind us. I understand professional integrity but damn! She must embrace the reality of her situation, her radio days are over and again explore other mediums to make people aware of her Music,period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 i love how people insist with this payola without proofs or even clues "ok..let's make a payola...play this song randomly sometimes during the day...but not too much please...." Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all. I don't believe it. If payola was paid, they should get a refund. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realityisalways Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Why is a Madonna forum promoting the idea that Madonna used Payola when there isn't any receipts? Wow if these are her fans imagine her haters... It's called a rolling effect it happens to every song, the negative updates are normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensch Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just put in all my requests for today! I'm trying NOT to do Twitter and facebook everyday but did my web/text requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Could this affect RH first week? BREAKING NEWS Effective immediately in all iTunes stores worldwide, pre-orders will no longer impact an album's first day chart rank. Its position will be based on the album's performance that day and albums will need to climb up the charts the same way a non-pre-order album would. This also applies to Instant Grat tracks -- the tracks that download immediately when an album is pre-ordered. Note that pre-order albums can still chart prior to release, but on release day, only new sales and "Complete My Album" sales will impact the album's chart position. On the Instant Grat front, tracks sold à la carte will count towards the Top Songs chart, but tracks delivered as part of the pre-order will not -- they're considered part of the album sale. This logic also applies to Single track pre-orders. The update essentially resolves the issue of albums being counted twice in iTunes' charts: once at the time of pre-order and once at the time of fulfillment. As such, it's a more accurate representation of user behavior. Soundscan charts are not affected -- pre-orders still count towards first-week sales there -- and pre-orders are still a valuable way to direct your fans to a point-of-purchase as soon as they hear about your music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 i think just the massive amount of pre orders that suddenly count in one day, but of course the sales are the same and all numbers are counted together. thats what it seems like anyway. but wait a second, does that mean that if this rule was happening when living for love came out, it wouldn't struggle this much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Could this affect RH first week? BREAKING NEWS Effective immediately in all iTunes stores worldwide, pre-orders will no longer impact an album's first day chart rank. Its position will be based on the album's performance that day and albums will need to climb up the charts the same way a non-pre-order album would. This also applies to Instant Grat tracks -- the tracks that download immediately when an album is pre-ordered. Note that pre-order albums can still chart prior to release, but on release day, only new sales and "Complete My Album" sales will impact the album's chart position. On the Instant Grat front, tracks sold à la carte will count towards the Top Songs chart, but tracks delivered as part of the pre-order will not -- they're considered part of the album sale. This logic also applies to Single track pre-orders. The update essentially resolves the issue of albums being counted twice in iTunes' charts: once at the time of pre-order and once at the time of fulfillment. As such, it's a more accurate representation of user behavior. Soundscan charts are not affected -- pre-orders still count towards first-week sales there -- and pre-orders are still a valuable way to direct your fans to a point-of-purchase as soon as they hear about your music. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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