Elysium Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Cher has worked long and hard enough and has had so many achievements she does not need to concern herself with what some random online fag thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I was shocked that an interviewer had any questions to ask Kate Bush. Pray tell, what the fuck is genius about Kate Bush (I'm a fan)? Her music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacket Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 what is she doing replying to these tweets from nobodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 what is she doing replying to these tweets from nobodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 What is it with Cher and all the Madonna praising lately? ) Maybe she's always appreciated her and has been quite envy of her. I know that sounds a bit strange since we're talking about Cher, who did it all herself and then some. When she commented (not so nicely in the earlier 90's), I felt a bit of envy coming from her. I felt like she was hoping to buddy up with Madonna and she felt Madonna snubbed her. But yeah, that's obviously buried and under the bridge. People change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Her music. Go and post on a Kate bush forum then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Go and post on a Kate bush forum then... According to your posts it seems like Madonna is the only one who's got talent. Barbra, Cher and other female icons don't matter.... If some musicians don't make catchy songs it doesn't mean they suck and their music is irelevant. Edited October 13, 2013 by mangapop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 In the pre-Madonna era, Babs was also probably the only popular female entertainer that had such creative control over her material and image, YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 it's embarrassing to see Madonna fans acting like Little Monsters on twitter... leave Cher alone. She's great and funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 According to your posts it seems like Madonna is the only one who's got talent. Barbra, Cher and other female icons don't matter.... If some musicians don't make catchy songs it doesn't mean they suck and their music is irelevant. Kate Bush made catchy pop songs and so did Barbra and Cher. That means fuck all either way when it comes to creative genius. I think Kate Bush is a great artist and I like her music but putting her on this pedestal is naive and delusional. She's a mainstream artist. Therefore she is POP. Sorry if that's hard for you to deal with but it's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 it's embarrassing to see Madonna fans acting like Little Monsters on twitter... leave Cher alone. She's great and funny. this is true too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Kate Bush made catchy pop songs and so did Barbra and Cher. That means fuck all either way when it comes to creative genius. I think Kate Bush is a great artist and I like her music but putting her on this pedestal is naive and delusional. She's a mainstream artist. Therefore she is POP. Sorry if that's hard for you to deal with but it's a fact. Well their catchy songs aren't the same catchy songs what other singers are doing now. Kate Bush is art rock artist. Well which female artist is genius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Well their catchy songs aren't the same catchy songs what other singers are doing now. Kate Bush is art rock artist. Well which female artist is genius? Kate Bush is a pop star. End. She is not an art rock artist (there's no such thing). She is an artist belonging to a huge record label, played on mainstream radio and other media and promoted within the general public. The only reason you think she's something else is because she is not exposed to the youth of today as she was exposed to the youth of the eighties. How old are you? A genius musician? That's a very subjective and pointless question but musically neither Madonna or Kate Bush or geniuses despite their huge skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I'm not sure why we are arguing about Kate Bush in this thread, but... Kate Bush is NOT a "pop star", nor was she in the 80's. She's always been referred as an "alternative and progressive rock" artist and was only mainstream to that genre... usually geared towards college students particularly in the 80's... and onwards. She was also one of the first to embrace videos even before the MTV generation. She usually made sophisticated videos before most were doing them. And yes, "ART ROCK" does exist which she has been categorized under.... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/36651/art-rock http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art-rock http://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/art-rock-ma0000002431 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I'm not sure why we are arguing about Kate Bush in this thread, but... Kate Bush is NOT a "pop star", nor was she in the 80's. She's always been referred as an "alternative and progressive rock" artist and was only mainstream to that genre... usually geared towards college students particularly in the 80's... and onwards. She was also one of the first to embrace videos even before the MTV generation. She usually made sophisticated videos before most were doing them. And yes, "ART ROCK" does exist which she has been categorized under.... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/36651/art-rock http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art-rock http://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/art-rock-ma0000002431 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_rock First of all I am English (the same country Kate is from) and here she is considered a mainstream artist. She is featured in popular publication and popular media. She is a pop artist. That's the end of that. Art rock is a genre but there's no such thing as an art rock artist. The term would be art rocker. She is more closely related to progressive rock sonically but it is not a genre that Kate belongs to entirely. Her influences are varied and yet somewhat ambiguous. Genres are fucking pointless anyway and were only designed to MARKET music. The genre of ART ROCK itself is actually rather hypocritical. Somebody willing to extend limitations by defining themselves with a genre? Well, most decent artists can't define themselves that way and it's up to record labels to promote such terms because they appeal to the lowest common denominator record buyer with a small mind. Kate Bush performed on Top of the Pops like four or five times, didn't she? She's a pop artist. It's not up for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacket Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Just called Kate Bush to clarify and she said she is both. End of argument. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 First of all I am English (the same country Kate is from) and here she is considered a mainstream artist. She is featured in popular publication and popular media. She is a pop artist. That's the end of that. Art rock is a genre but there's no such thing as an art rock artist. The term would be art rocker. She is more closely related to progressive rock sonically but it is not a genre that Kate belongs to entirely. Her influences are varied and yet somewhat ambiguous. Genres are fucking pointless anyway and were only designed to MARKET music. The genre of ART ROCK itself is actually rather hypocritical. Somebody willing to extend limitations by defining themselves with a genre? Well, most decent artists can't define themselves that way and it's up to record labels to promote such terms because they appeal to the lowest common denominator record buyer with a small mind. Kate Bush performed on Top of the Pops like four or five times, didn't she? She's a pop artist. It's not up for discussion. Good gawd. You have to so confrontational and RIGHT all the time. No room for discussion because whatever you discuss you're right and no one else isn't. Not only that, you must always insert a dig or a personal insult as well. by the way, you're full of shit! THE END (period)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Good gawd. You have to so confrontational and RIGHT all the time. No room for discussion because whatever you discuss you're right and no one else isn't. Not only that, you must always insert a dig or a personal insult as well. by the way, you're full of shit! THE END (period)! You just now figured that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVC Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Kate Bush is shitty brit singer. 2 good songs maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You just now figured that out? Actually... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Kate Bush is shitty brit singer. 2 good songs maybe Don't forget, she's a POP singer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Good gawd. You have to so confrontational and RIGHT all the time. No room for discussion because whatever you discuss you're right and no one else isn't. Not only that, you must always insert a dig or a personal insult as well. by the way, you're full of shit! THE END (period)! No one else isn't? You do realise that makes absolutely no sense...right? You also realise the hypocrisy of what you just said, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You just now figured that out? I don't always make digs at people. I can discuss like an adult. You stupid little bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Cher has a low IQ, Madonna has a high IQ, but Kate Bush is a fucking Genius ( whether you like it or not!!!). For a 16 year old girl to write the lyrics and music to wuthering heights ( let alone her whole debut album) is pure genius! Name me one other 16 year old to accomplish this ( and don't say Debbie Gibson or Tanita Tikatam because they are both junkie whores). Like Bjork, Kate is an alternative artist who just happens to have had success on the charts! This does not make her or her music Mainstream! P.s I already saw Cher's new album in the bargain bin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 This thread is about the incomparable CHER and her comments/views on Madonna. Let's try to keep it at that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Kate Bush is shitty brit singer. 2 good songs maybe You think so because you like more catchy commercial crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrocks Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 This is one of her best from her new album. Could be a huge hit for her if radio wasn't stuck on playing under 30 crowd. Definitely could be a hit on the Adult Contemporary stations/charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You think so because you like more catchy commercial crap. Oh just shut up already. If you think catchy commercial music is "crap" then why are you a Madonna fan? Do you know that quite a few of her albums are made of catchy commercial music? I bet you think it's "crap" right? This thread is fucking depressing. Let's not turn this place into Exhale guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Oh just shut up already. If you think catchy commercial music is "crap" then why are you a Madonna fan? Do you know that quite a few of her albums are made of catchy commercial music? I bet you think it's "crap" right? This thread is fucking depressing. Let's not turn this place into Exhale guys. The only Madonna album I think is crap and too much commerical is Hard Candy. p.s I don't think taht catchy commercial is always crap, but there is a lot of crap in the 21th century. Anyway, I replied to Trevchambers, who said: "Kate Bush is shitty brit singer. 2 good songs maybe." Which isn't truth. I would say the same thing if some person would say that Madonna is shitty singer and has a few good songs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The only Madonna album I think is crap and too much commerical is Hard Candy. p.s I don't think taht catchy commercial is always crap, but there is a lot of crap in the 21th century. Anyway, I replied to Trevchambers, who said: "Kate Bush is shitty brit singer. 2 good songs maybe." Which isn't truth. I would say the same thing if some person would say that Madonna is shitty singer and has a few good songs.... Ok i see your point. Ignore what i say on the other topic, i talked too fast (even if the bandwagon hate on the Hard Candy album is becoming more and more annoying). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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