Guest Danny86 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 ^Exactly!!!! But that mentality has to change! Its time to start, this is a different time than the past. She needs to step up her game. Why does it have to change now? This is her last album under a regular label, and as others said, she doesn't need to care about CD sales because compared to her huge tour grosses, those sales are irrelevant. It's more important to worry about if we're gonna get a regular Madonna CD-album for the first LN album or not, because by 2011, these sales will be even more irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 She doesn't care about album sales. I think that's obvious, and has been for some time, probably since before "Music" (remember WIFLFAG was single #3, and that effectively killed the album). Well, if she didn't care about album sales then why the abrupt shift from her Mirwais-acoustic techno of American Life (which bombed) to the ultra-glossy ABBA-infected Confessions? Why team up with Timberlake and Timbaland - arguably the best selling popsmiths of the moment? Why admit crying with happiness when your album hits #1 in over 20 countries? I think she cares about album sales, but not so much as to bury herself in a promo schedule like Mariah Carey's. Although part of me wishes she would, she does have three kids too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well, if she didn't care about album sales then why the abrupt shift from her Mirwais-acoustic techno of American Life (which bombed) to the ultra-glossy ABBA-infected Confessions? Why team up with Timberlake and Timbaland - arguably the best selling popsmiths of the moment? Why admit crying with happiness when your album hits #1 in over 20 countries? I think it has to do more with staying relevant, being popular and being played on radio. Of course sales matter, but that's more for her record label, she's probably not allowed to record a totally un-commercial album. But I doubt Madonna personally cares if Hard Candy is 1x or 2x Platinum in the USA. She's more interested in touring and she knows many people will go and see her, so her latest music will be heard that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 bks at Pulse: With 1 day to go here's how Hot 100 Airplay is shaping up before recurrents are removed: No. 1 - Lil Wayne (-4.2 million) No. 2 - Leona (-6.1 million) No. 6 - Rihanna (+4.6 million) No. 8 - Danity Kane (-2.2 million) No. 11 - Keyshia Cole (-0.3 milllion) No. 13 - Usher, Beyonce & Lil Wayne (+0.5 million) No. 14 - Natasha Bedingfield (+4.3 million) No. 15 - Chris Brown (+9.0 million) Forever No. 16 - Chris Brown (-0.1 million) Take You Down No. 17 - Jesse McCartney (+4.6 million) No. 19 - Katy Perry (+9.9 million) No. 22 - Alicia Keys (+4.7 million) No. 24 - Mariah (-3.9 million) No. 29 - Madonna (-9.4 million) No. 78 - Coldplay (+5.6 million) Viva La Vida No. 163 - Pussycat Dolls (+3.3 million) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iasonas Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 ^Auch Madonna Bravo Katy Perry and Natasha!! Pussycat Dolls will flop?? Is the song good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 ^Why don't you go to YouTube and watch the Pussycat Dolls video? That's what I do for songs I've never heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtzlplk Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 hello... it was just last week when we had slow sales pace for HC in the beginning and later surged... don't be too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 NOW IN: 67.83% LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 LIL WAYNE UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 431,514 THA CARTER III -- 2 PLIES SLIP-N-SLIDE 142,971 DEFINITION OF REAL 2 3 NOW 28 CAPITOL 85,697 VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 4 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 71,655 HERE I STAND 5 5 JOURNEY FRONTIERS 69,695 REVELATION 1 6 DISTURBED REPRISE 57,393 INDESTRUCTIBLE -- 7 N.E.R.D. INTERSCOPE 48,272 SEEING SOUNDS 12 8 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 23,844 SPIRIT 6 9 ASHANTI UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 23,092 DECLARATION -- 10 MONTGOMERY GENTRY SBMG NASHVILLE 22,276 BACK WHEN I KNEW IT ALL -- 13 ALANIS MORISSETTE MAVERICK/REPRISE 20,301 FLAVORS OF ENTANGLEMENT 15 39 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 9,847 Lil Wayne is still way far from the predicted million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 NOW IN: 77.39% LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 LIL WAYNE UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 529,027 THA CARTER III -- 2 PLIES SLIP-N-SLIDE 146,256 DEFINITION OF REAL 2 3 NOW 28 CAPITOL 85,697 VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 4 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 75,706 HERE I STAND 5 5 JOURNEY FRONTIERS 69,695 REVELATION 1 6 DISTURBED REPRISE 64,197 INDESTRUCTIBLE -- 7 N.E.R.D. INTERSCOPE 63,536 SEEING SOUNDS -- 8 ALANIS MORISSETTE MAVERICK/REPRISE 36,034 FLAVORS OF ENTANGLEMENT -- 9 MY MORNING JACKET ATO 28,753 EVIL URGES 7 10 SEX & THE CITY NEW LINE 27,922 SOUNDTRACK 15 38 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 11,277 HARD CANDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nothingfails0603 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Lil Wayne seems to be coming up short of the one million. To be honest, I am surprised he is doing so well while Alanis is doing so badly. I do not know one person who likes Lil Wayne more than Alanis. Her album was the "major release" of the week to me, not his crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexz Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Lil Wayne seems to be coming up short of the one million. To be honest, I am surprised he is doing so well while Alanis is doing so badly. I do not know one person who likes Lil Wayne more than Alanis. Her album was the "major release" of the week to me, not his crap. That's gay world for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 CHART DATE: 06/16/2008 NOW IN: FINAL LW TW artist / album label power index % change -- 1 LIL WAYNE UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 969,235 -- THA CARTER III -- 2 PLIES SLIP-N-SLIDE 208,772 -- DEFINITION OF REAL 2 3 NOW 28 CAPITOL 130,579 -29% VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 4 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 102,348 -27% HERE I STAND 1 5 DISTURBED REPRISE 100,109 -60% INDESTRUCTIBLE 5 6 JOURNEY FRONTIERS 94,648 -12% REVELATION -- 7 N.E.R.D. INTERSCOPE 81,767 -- SEEING SOUNDS -- 8 ALANIS MORISSETTE MAVERICK/REPRISE 70,239 -- FLAVORS OF ENTANGLEMENT -- 9 MY MORNING JACKET ATO 43,360 -- EVIL URGES 4 10 WEEZER DGC/INTERSCOPE 40,691 -69% WEEZER (RED ALBUM) 9 11 3 DOORS DOWN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 37,821 -21% 3 DOORS DOWN 16 12 FRANK SINATRA REPRISE 35,520 +21% NOTHING BUT THE BEST 7 13 SEX & THE CITY NEW LINE 34,622 -41% SOUNDTRACK 12 14 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 33,112 0% SPIRIT 14 15 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 30,147 0% TAYLOR SWIFT 17 16 DUFFY MERCURY 30,042 +3% ROCKFERRY 6 17 ASHANTI UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 29,747 -67% DECLARATION 18 18 TOBY KEITH UME/SHOW DOG 29,220 +17% 35 BIGGEST HITS 22 19 KID ROCK ATLANTIC 28,482 +27% ROCK N ROLL JESUS 11 20 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 28,047 -21% E=MC2 -- 21 MONTGOMERY GENTRY SBMG NASHVILLE 26,853 -- BACK WHEN I KNEW IT ALL -- 22 EMMYLOU HARRIS NONESUCH 26,254 -- ALL I INTENDED TO BE 10 23 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/ZLG 24,202 -37% EXCLUSIVE 21 24 DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE ATLANTIC 22,737 -3% NARROW STAIRS -- 25 JAKOB DYLAN COLUMBIA 22,290 -- SEEING THINGS -- 26 TOTAL CLUB HITS THRIVE 22,131 -- THRIVEMIX (VARIOUS ARTISTS) 25 27 NEIL DIAMOND COLUMBIA 22,078 +14% HOME BEFORE DARK 19 28 BUN B RAP-A-LOT/ATLANTIC 21,815 -10% II TRILL 8 29 JEWEL BIG MACHINE 21,661 -56% PERFECTLY CLEAR -- 30 ICARLY NICKELODOEN 20,240 -- MUSIC FROM & INSPIRED BY THE HIT 23 31 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 19,523 -13% WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS 35 32 JACK JOHNSON BRUSHFIRE/UNIV REPUBLIC 18,755 +36% SLEEP THROUGH THE STATIC 29 33 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 18,488 +14% CARNIVAL RIDE 47 34 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 18,462 +62% TROUBADOUR 20 35 NOW CLASSIC ROCK CAPITOL 17,889 -25% VARIOUS ARTISTS 15 36 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 17,156 -43% HARD CANDY 42 37 ALAN JACKSON ARISTA NASHVILLE 16,672 +36% GOOD TIME 27 38 FLOBOTS UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 16,477 -5% FIGHT WITH TOOLS 45 39 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/SBMG NASHVILLE 16,140 +36% JUST WHO I AM: POETS & PIRATES 26 40 NOW 27 SBMG/COMMERICAL MUSIC GRP 15,739 -9% VARIOUS ARTISTS 28 41 JULIANNE HOUGH MERCURY NASHVILLE 15,608 -8% JULIANNE HOUGH 36 42 AL GREEN BLUE NOTE/BNLG 15,454 +12% LAY IT DOWN -- 43 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 15,404 -- ULTIMATE HITS 38 44 RICK ROSS DEF JAM/IDJMG 15,028 +17% TRILLA 34 45 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 14,765 +4% COCO 41 46 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 14,681 +19% POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE 40 47 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 14,482 +16% ENJOY THE RIDE 31 48 JUNO RHINO 14,429 -7% SOUNDTRACK 24 49 DISNEYMANIA 6 WALT DISNEY RECORDS 14,332 -30% VARIOUS ARTISTS 48 50 BRAD PAISLEY ARISTA NASHVILLE 13,822 +25% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nothingfails0603 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 yay!!!! 70k is MUCH better than 45-50k. Granted, it's sad that Alanis' days of #1 debuts are behind her, but 70k is closer to Sheryl Crow's last album than Tori/Bjork. Why did HC have such a collapse this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattcho Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Why did HC have such a collapse this week? Good question, especially with the LP set released (good for a few thousand units). Well, she definitely didn't get the Father's Day bump that most albums received. - Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigham Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 4M's airplay has had major declines this past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nothingfails0603 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 the success of the new Journey album surprises me I know they are one of the most beloved bands of the 1980's and that Greatest Hits album continues to sell in major quantities. But, I remember the albums they released with the lead singer who replaced Steve Perry (who was the voice of Journey as far as most people are concerned) were outright bombs that didn't even make the top 40. Yet this album with another new lead singer is selling very well and had one of the smallest second week drops on record in the past year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattcho Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) the success of the new Journey album surprises me I know they are one of the most beloved bands of the 1980's and that Greatest Hits album continues to sell in major quantities. But, I remember the albums they released with the lead singer who replaced Steve Perry (who was the voice of Journey as far as most people are concerned) were outright bombs that didn't even make the top 40. Yet this album with another new lead singer is selling very well and had one of the smallest second week drops on record in the past year? It's a bargain. 2 CDs + 1 DVD for something like $15. One of the CDs is of greatest hits, albeit with the new singer (who has an amazingly identical voice to Steve Perry's). I'm glad to see any 80s artist/band make a comeback. I have a soft spot for everything 80s. These Wal-Mart deals, for the artists, can't be beat. Rather than making royalties, the artist gets a flat fee for a certain amount of pressed units. Wal-Mart takes the risk. - Matt Edited June 17, 2008 by mattcho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 HITS numbers were 2K+ higher than SS last week, so we'll see what happens this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ouch at HC sales. I guess the album is pretty much done in the US/UK. She will be lucky to sell 3 million in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Maybe the album will see a small bump from Get Smart which comes out this weekend. Isn't "4 Minutes" featured in the film? I realize that is probably wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 We don't know if it's done- if sales drops aren't as large from here on out, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Jesus the album took a hit this week. Keep your fingers crossed for Give It 2 Me cause thats the only hope right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexz Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Oh dear at Skin's signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 its going to be VERY close to AL #s . It *all* come down to IF GI2M has any impact. If it does, HC clearly will blow AL US#s aside. If not than ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexz Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 She didn't work with US top hit makers on American Life, though. Hard Candy's obligation is to perform better. It has chart-wise but not sales-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 She didn't work with US top hit makers on American Life, though. Hard Candy's obligation is to perform better. It has chart-wise but not sales-wise. Yet it spawned her soon-to-be best selling US single! That's pretty much enough for those so called "obligations". By the way, shouldn't you be more worried about Mariah, who needs to do 6 million again, because she worked with the same people, so it would be her obligation to at least match that, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Oh dear at Skin's signature. I have had this sig for like 10 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I have had this sig for like 10 years now. lol. ya, I was like WTF?? dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I was thinking Hard Candy would probably be poison for fathers day shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I was thinking Hard Candy would probably be poison for fathers day shopping. I think if anything 4 Minutes has run its course. I heard it like CRAZY on the radio for weeks on end and now I hear it every so often. Like I said. Its all up to GI2M to give the album a boost again. On a sidenote, if Kid Rocks album can fly back up the charts again like it seems to be doing, anyones album can cause its been out for awhile now. I guess his latest single (the one that sounds like Sweet Home Alabama) is really hitting a nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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