Ai Papi Si. Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 NO hate. Oh Blewjob. If we have heated debates that's fine - that's what forums are for by me but not once did I go personal in here If you wanna see nasty go look at the 10 simultaneous fights that went on in the Brexit thread. Gugugugugu and I didn't go nuts in there, he was referring to whatever else happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Oh Blewjob. If we have heated debates that's fine - that's what forums are for by me but not once did I go personal in here If you wanna see nasty go look at the 10 simultaneous fights that went on in the Brexit thread. Gugugugugu and I didn't go nuts in there, he was referring to whatever else happened I want to see a different kind of nasty actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Do us a favor and show us all your MUNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Do us a favor and show us all your MUNT. Not sure I'd be comfortable sharing it with this many people.... Gotta draw the line somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Alright well imessage me then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Am I in a 2008 time warp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Am I in a 2008 time warp? Yes. Except this time Candy Shop will be the lead single from Hard Candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍦🍨🍧🍩🍭🍩🍭🍩🍭🍩🍭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 How deep is your hole Is it like the ocean Dick devotion Are you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Bernie has convinced the dems to make a nationwide 15 dollar minimum wage part of the democratic party platform officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mauro Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 and Hillary is up 13 points with likely voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 We know how this will turn out. So prepare yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 and Hillary is up 13 points with likely voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 We know how this will turn out. So prepare yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 She was so ugly that day and to add fug on ug!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 OMG. Hector, that mash-up photo kind of reminds me of the original Rose from Keeping up appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Skins going to have a nervous breakdown in November https://www.yahoo.com/news/johannesson-leads-icelands-presidential-vote-partial-result-000003789.html?ref=gs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeakMaker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 How does Americans view Hillary? She's portrayed as some kind of a laughing stock... Not on the same level of Trump I must say. American politics seems to be based on some comedy film lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 They hate her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonluvsmaddy Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Based on favorable vs unfavorable polls, they hate Trump more. Hillary: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeakMaker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Always thought she was the best option against Trump.. Then again anybody against Trump would have a better outcome! If Trump wins the US will be seen as a laughing stock.. I don't know anyone who would take Trump seriously apart from Boris Johnson, maybe.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Based on favorable vs unfavorable polls, they hate Trump more. Hillary: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html Where were all these Hillary supporters 8 years ago?!!! At Lady Gaga concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 How does Americans view Hillary? She's portrayed as some kind of a laughing stock... Not on the same level of Trump I must say. American politics seems to be based on some comedy film lately. Laughingstock where? We are talking a former senator and Secretary of State vs a guy who can't even fund a presidential campaign. She may be hated by many but let's not pretend this is doofus vs. doofus. One of these people actually has a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mauro Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Former Bush Treasury secretary: 'I'll be voting for Hillary Clinton' There goes another one. Hank Paulson, chairman of the Paulson Institute and a former Treasury secretary in George W. Bush’s administration, will neither vote for Donald Trump in November nor abstain, he wrote in an op-ed published Friday in The Washington Post. “I’ll be voting for Hillary Clinton with the hope that she can bring Americans together to do the things necessary to strengthen our economy, our environment and our place in the world,” Paulson wrote. “To my Republican friends: I know I’m not alone.” Paulson is the latest George W. Bush administration official to not only reject the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, but to declare support for Clinton. Former Bush Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told POLITICO last week he would vote for Clinton. With Trump as the party’s standard-bearer, “we are witnessing a populist hijacking of one of the United States’ great political parties,” the former Goldman Sachs CEO wrote. “The GOP, in putting Trump at the top of the ticket, is endorsing a brand of populism rooted in ignorance, prejudice, fear and isolationism. This troubles me deeply as a Republican, but it troubles me even more as an American. Enough is enough. It’s time to put country before party and say it together: Never Trump.” Paulson suggested that Trump’s pledge to do for America what he’s done for his businesses isn’t a promise but rather a threat. “The tactics he has used in running his business wouldn’t work in running a truly successful company, let alone the most powerful nation on Earth,” he continued. “Every good businessman or -woman carefully analyzes all the available facts before making a decision. Trump repeatedly, blatantly and knowingly makes up or gravely distorts facts to support his positions or create populist divisions.” Paulson blasted Trump’s business acumen, highlighting his bankruptcy filings, accusing him of exaggerating his wealth and arguing that his marketing and self-promotion are irrelevant to running a country. He also slammed the real estate mogul’s divisive rhetoric, questioning how such a polarizing figure could unite the country. “Simply put, a Trump presidency is unthinkable,” he wrote, though he maintained that he plans to support conservatives in statehouses and Congress. “They have a big job to do to reinvent and revitalize the Republican Party. They can do so by responding to the fears and frustrations of the American people and uniting them behind some common aspirations, while staying constant to the principles that have made our country great,” he added. “When it comes to the presidency, I will not vote for Donald Trump.” http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/henry-paulson-hillary-clinton-voting-224793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mauro Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 George freakin Will announces that he's leaving the GOP over Trump. George Will leaves Republican party because of Trump George Will is no longer a Republican — and it’s all Donald Trump’s fault, the famed conservative columnist said Sunday. “I left it for the same reason I joined it in 1964 when I voted for Barry Goldwater. I joined it because I was a conservative. But I leave for the same reason, that I’m a conservative,” Will told Fox News Sunday. Will chalked up his departure to Trump’s ascension — along with the Republican party’s embrace of its presidential candidate. “To give you a time line, shortly after Trump became the presumptive nominee, he had a summit meeting with Paul Ryan where they stressed their common principles and their vast shared ground, which is much more important than their differences. I thought that was puzzling doubly so because Paul Ryan still didn’t endorse him,” Will said today. “After Trump went after the Mexican judge from northern Indiana, then Paul Ryan endorsed him. And I decided that, in fact, this is not my party anymore.” Trump retaliated by attacking Will this morning on Twitter. “George Will, one of the most overrated political pundits (who lost his way long ago), has left the Republican Party. He’s made many bad calls,” sad the Republican presidential candidate. Will made the revelation last week in a meeting with the Federalist Society. “I changed my registration to unaffiliated 23 days ago. I hardly made an announcement. I just mentioned this in a meeting with the Federalist Society,” Will said Sunday morning. He even invoked Republican icon Ronald Reagan, who was a Democrat before joining the GOP. “So the long and the short of it is, as Ronald Reagan said when he changed his registration, I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me,” he said. http://nypost.com/2016/06/26/george-will-leaves-republican-party-because-of-trump/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeakMaker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Laughingstock where? We are talking a former senator and Secretary of State vs a guy who can't even fund a presidential campaign. She may be hated by many but let's not pretend this is doofus vs. doofus. One of these people actually has a brain. I didnt believe for one second Hillary Clinton is a laughing stock. I was referring to the media and the perception some Americans have of her. She's an intelligent woman of course but all those scandals and email revelations didn't put her on a good light. Regardless I'd rather have Hillary winning but that's my opinion... Americans might even think I'm crazy and for good measure lol so I can't really put my finger that's why I was asking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I didnt believe for one second Hillary Clinton is a laughing stock. I was referring to the media and the perception some Americans have of her. She's an intelligent woman of course but all those scandals and email revelations didn't put her on a good light. Regardless I'd rather have Hillary winning but that's my opinion... Americans might even think I'm crazy and for good measure lol so I can't really put my finger that's why I was asking...Make no mistake - Americans dislike Clinton for vastly different reasons than they dislike Trump. This goes back decades. She's secretive and weary of the press. The email scandal is another one in her many missteps as a result of her nature which is to withhold. Trump is a bigot who can barely string a sentence together without exposing his tremendous lack of understanding of anything his prospective job requires. People will call Clinton a calculating bitch with overtones of greed and questionable actions, but overall people know she's fit to do the job without blowing up the economy or literally blowing up the planet. I don't think I've ever hated a public figure more than I hate Trump. I look forward to his inevitable humiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeakMaker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 ^ I agree with you. I can't believe he's actually running for president. He opens his mouth and he makes a mistake. Lol who can possibly take the guy seriously? All that money must have shrunk his brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mauro Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Clinton Opens 12-Point Lead on Trump as Two-Thirds See Him as Biased (POLL) Hillary Clinton surged to a broad advantage against Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, capitalizing on Trump’s recent campaign missteps. Two-thirds of Americans see him as biased against groups such as women, minorities or Muslims, and a new high, 64 percent, call Trump unqualified to serve as president. These and other doubts about Trump have produced a sharp 14-point swing in preferences among registered voters, from +2 points for Trump in mid-May, after he clinched the GOP nomination, to +12 points for Clinton now, 51-39 percent. That snaps the race essentially back to where it was in March. See PDF for full results. Adding third-party candidates Gary Johnson (Libertarian) and Jill Stein (Green) to the mix makes no substantive difference: a 10-point Clinton advantage, 47-37-7-3 percent among registered voters. Looking at those who say they’re certain to vote in November likewise produces a very similar result: +11 Clinton in the two-way matchup, +9 in the four-way. The national poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds another apparent impact of Trump’s problems: Perhaps benefitting from comparison, Barack Obama’s job approval rating has gained 5 points, to 56 percent, matching its high since the early days of his presidency. That includes 55 percent approval specifically on handling the economy. Underlying Views Trial heats are hypothetical; they ask which candidate people would support if the election were today – which it isn’t. At least as important are the underlying sentiments informing current preferences, and they show the extent of Trump’s troubles given his recent controversial comments. Among them: • The public by 66-29 percent think he’s unfairly biased against groups such as women, minorities or Muslims. • Americans by 68-28 percent think his comment about Judge Gonzalo Curiel was racist. Regardless of whether or not it was racist, 85 percent say it was inappropriate. • While most Americans disapprove of Clinton’s handling of her email while secretary of state (34-56 percent, approve-disapprove), they’re equally disenchanted with Trump’s handling of questions about Trump University (19-59 percent, with more undecided). • Most generally, the public by 56-36 percent, a 20-point margin, says Trump is standing against their beliefs as opposed to standing up for their beliefs. Clinton, further, receives substantially better marks than Trump’s for her response to the lone-wolf terrorist attack June 12 in Orlando, Florida: Americans by an 18-point margin, 46-28 percent, say Clinton did a better job than Trump overall in responding to the attack. Another result marks a rebuke to Trump in his own party. On June 15, referring to Republican leaders, he said, “Just please be quiet. Don’t talk.” In this survey, however, Republicans and GOP-leaning independents by a wide 62-35 percent say party leaders should speak out when they disagree with Trump, rather than avoid criticizing their likely nominee. Indeed, Trump is supported by just 77 percent of Republican registered voters in the two-way test in this survey, compared with 85 percent in this group last month and, again, essentially back to his in-party support in March. In the four-way trial he’s at 74 percent among Republicans. Results of this poll temper the notion that last week’s Brexit vote in the United Kingdom marks a broader dissatisfaction with the status quo that advantages Trump on this side of the Atlantic. On one hand, nativist sentiment, populism and economic anxiety clearly benefitted Trump in the race for the Republican nomination. On the other, his general election campaign requires broader support – and he’s had a dreadful few weeks. Qualifications, Temperament and Anxiety Doubts about Trump are reflected in yet-sharper questions about his qualifications for office – perhaps the most basic hurdle for a candidate to clear – and continued widespread anxiety about a potential Trump presidency. Sixty-four percent of Americans now see Trump as unqualified to serve as president, up 6 points from an already-high 58 percent last month. Thirty-four percent see him as qualified. Clinton’s numbers are essentially the opposite, and unchanged: Sixty-one percent see her as qualified for the office, 37 percent as not qualified. Moreover, while 33 percent feel strongly that Clinton is not qualified, many more – 56 percent – feel strongly that Trump doesn’t pass this test. Clinton also continues to surpass Trump easily in views of which candidate has the better personality and temperament to serve effectively. Clinton’s vast 61-28 percent lead on this question is essentially unchanged from last month’s 61-31 percent. For all this, Clinton is hardly beloved. Fifty percent of Americans say they’re anxious about the idea of her as president (vs. 47 percent who are comfortable with it). When it comes to a Trump presidency, however, anxiety rises to 70 percent, with just 27 percent comfortable with the idea. These are about the same as when last asked in January, and the 70 percent anxiety number matches Trump’s unfavorability rating in an ABC/Post poll last week. Someone Else? Dissatisfaction with Trump and Clinton alike raises the question of a third way – but partisanship is a strong anchor, and this poll indicates little traction to date for an alternative party. Just 18 percent of registered voters say there’s a third-party candidate they’re seriously considering – and when asked to name that candidate, a mere 2 percent offer Johnson’s name, and 1 percent mention Stein, a very low level of unaided recall. When presented directly with Johnson and Stein as alternatives, they receive 7 and 3 percent support, respectively, as noted – drawing similarly from both major-party candidates. Johnson’s selected by 6 percent of Trump’s supporters and 5 percent of Clinton’s in a two-way matchup; Stein, by 4 percent of Clinton’s and 1 percent of Trump’s. Obama The president’s resurgent approval rating is particularly welcome for Clinton, given his reported eagerness to campaign for her. His advance is broadly based, and political divisions remain high – 88 percent approval for Obama among Democrats, 50 percent among independents and just 18 percent among Republicans. Tellingly, 85 percent of Obama approvers support Clinton, vs. just 8 percent of Obama disapprovers. Obama’s approval rating is similar to both Bill Clinton’s 57 percent and Ronald Reagan’s 56 percent at about this point in their presidencies, and far better than George W. Bush’s 29 percent. That said, discontent with the status quo does remain, and poses some risk for Clinton as the incumbent party’s nominee. Registered voters by 56-39 percent say they’d rather see the next president set the nation in a new direction from Obama’s rather than continuing his course. “New direction” voters favor Trump over Clinton by a wide margin, 64-26 percent – but those who want to stay Obama’s course back Clinton even more widely, 87-6 percent. It’s notable, too, that the number of Americans who prefer a new direction is about the same now as it was at this stage of Reagan’s presidency – when the nation went on, nonetheless, to elect Reagan’s vice president George H.W. Bush, to the top job. Groups Partisanship can follow political preferences, and in this poll Democrats account for 36 percent of all adults and 37 percent of registered voters – a non-significant (+3) difference from last month. (The former is numerically its highest since 2009, the latter, since 2012.) Republicans account for 24 percent of all adults and 27 percent of registered voters, about their average in recent years, with the rest independents. This accounts for little of the shift in voter preferences, however. Even using the same party divisions from last month’s ABC/Post survey, in which Trump was +2, he’d now be -8. The reason, mentioned above, is his comparatively weak performance among Republicans – 77 percent support – compared with Clinton’s support among Democrats, 90 percent. Obama’s gain in approval, similarly, is not fundamentally based on any change in partisanship – last month’s partisan divisions would put him at 54-42 percent now, vs. his actual 56-41 percent in this poll. There are notable shifts among groups in the latest vote preference results. Largest is a 16-point loss for Trump, and 17-point advance for Clinton, among white Catholics, a potentially key group that accounts for one in seven registered voters. Clinton, further, is now leading among young adults, a group in which Trump was surprisingly competitive last month. Trump is -11, and Clinton +11, among registered voters who don’t have a college degree, as well as among liberals and conservatives alike. And Trump is -10, Clinton +11, among white men. Clinton continues to prevail mightily among nonwhites – by 77-15 percent now, vs. 69-21 percent last month; that includes 90-8 percent among blacks and 69-20 percent among Hispanics. (For an adequate sample size, this combines results among blacks, and separately among Hispanics, from May and June.) Trump leads Clinton by 50-40 percent among whites, down from 57-33 percent last month. In another division of potential interest, Clinton leads Trump by 57-33 percent in the states that Obama won in 2012 (+24 points), while Trump leads more narrowly, by 51-41 percent (+10), in the states Mitt Romney won four years ago. Methodology This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone June 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,001 adults, including 836 registered voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points, including the design effect, for the full sample, and 4 points for registered voters. Partisan divisions are 36-24-33 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents, in the full sample, 37-27-30 among registered voters. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y. See details on the survey’s methodology here. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-opens-12-point-lead-trump-thirds-biased/story?id=40114224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 That's a horrific poll for Trump. Hoping they continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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