Rebel Heartbreaker Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Maybe there isn't enough room anywhere for the multitudes of people that contributed to songwriting, pre-production and final production!
tombigbee Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 This a genuinely true fuck-up. I don't know how they're getting away with it, it's so disrespectful
JimmyJimmy Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 The booklet apparently redirects you to Madonna.com for the credits.
Rebel Heartbreaker Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 That's me sticking the sword in her palm...for not including credits and a big thank you!
Guest HaveASit Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Is there any way to contact her team? I want to send an email asking about the credits
Msig Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Songwriting credits as posted by MadonnaTribe via Instagram Living for Love Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Maureen McDonald, Toby Gad, Ariel Rechtshaid & Uzoechi Emenike Devil Pray Madonna, Tim Bergling, Carl Falk, Rami Yacoub & Savan Kotecha Ghosttown Madonna, Jason Evigan, Sean Douglas & Evan Bogart Unapologetic Bitch Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald & Toby Gad Illuminati Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr. & Mike Dean Bitch I'm MadonnaMadonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald & Toby Gad Hold TightMadonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Maureen McDonald, Toby Gad, Ariel Rechtshaid & Uzoechi Emenike Joan of Arc Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald & Larry Griffin Jr. Iconic Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr., Chancelor Bennett, Dacoury Natche & Michael Tucker HeartBreakCity Madonna, Tim Bergling, Tobias Jimson, Arash Pournouri & Paloma Stoecker Body Shop Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr., Dacoury Natche & Michael Tucker Holy Water Madonna, Martin Kierszenbaum, Natalia Cappuccini & Mike Dean Inside Out Madonna, Jason Evigan & Mike Dean Wash All Over Me Madonna, Tim Bergling, Mike Dean, Arash Pournouri & Magnus Lidehäll Best Night Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald & Toby Gad Veni Vidi Vici Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald & Toby Gad S.E.X. Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr. & Mike Dean Messiah Madonna, Tim Bergling, Arash Pournouri & Magnus Lidehäll Rebel Heart Madonna, Tim Bergling, Arash Pournouri & Magnus Lidehäll Thomas Wesley Pentz = Diplo Maureen McDonald = MoZella Uzoechi Emenike = MNEK Tim Bergling = Avicii Larry Griffin Jr. = Symbolyc One Chancelor Bennett = Chance The Rapper Dacoury Natche = DJ Dahi Michael Tucker = Blood Diamonds Paloma Stoecker = Delilah Natalia Cappuccini = Natalia Kills To be updated...
Guest ziggy Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Thanks. Quite a few women there, considering that her board of producers and cowriters has usually been a boy's club. I do wonder why Nicki Minaj's name is not mentioned. Didn't she pen her own share of BIM? Edited March 6, 2015 by ziggy
Msig Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 So, we now have - supposedly accurate - songwriting credits for all 19 songs on the Deluxe Edition. For some reason, the credits for many songs don't match the credits submitted to ASCAP.
Flip The Switch Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 why not releasing a bonus disc with the credits only?
HavenHigh Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Thanks for that Msig! I guess most of them are correct, though Warner Chappell does include Douglas & Bogart for Inside Out as well. It is possible ASCAP will have several versions registered (they have that for Human Nature & B-day Song if I recall well), because it seems DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds got credit for Iconic & Body Shop later on. But they did not get credit for Devil Pray while there were two guys I posted earlier who were mentioned for Iconic instead of DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds... Billboard, Kanye West & Ryan Tedder did not receive any co-writing credit, which is surprising because I think the only time a producer did not get a writer credit was Nellee Hooper in 1994 and William Orbit in 1998 and supposedly this was the reason why the latter replaced the former for Ray Of Light since he agreed to that!
Carta Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 HavenHigh, on 07 Mar 2015 - 04:25 AM, said: Billboard, Kanye West & Ryan Tedder did not receive any co-writing credit, which is surprising because I think the only time a producer did not get a writer credit was Nellee Hooper in 1994 and William Orbit in 1998 and supposedly this was the reason why the latter replaced the former for Ray Of Light since he agreed to that! What about the following: Mark Kamins Reggie Lucas (all of the Madonna-penned tracks on "Madonna" other than "Everybody") Jellybean Benitez ("Holiday", "Crazy For You" and "Gambler") Nile Rodgers (every track on "Like A Virgin")
MerGirl Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Producers getting a writing credit is a fairly new practice, if I'm not mistaken.
HavenHigh Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 HavenHigh, on 07 Mar 2015 - 04:25 AM, said: What about the following: Mark Kamins Reggie Lucas (all of the Madonna-penned tracks on "Madonna" other than "Everybody") Jellybean Benitez ("Holiday", "Crazy For You" and "Gambler") Nile Rodgers (every track on "Like A Virgin") Ah yes I forgot about the early years, I was only thinking that it hadn't happened post-1998! Except a few cases like Nothing Fails or Easy Ride on American Life where Mirwais didn't get a writer credit. Same for William Orbit with Masterpiece (though he didn't even play the instruments for that one).
Rebel Heartbreaker Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I never knew Delilah was involved. I love her work.
Msig Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Producers getting a writing credit is a fairly new practice, if I'm not mistaken. That's right. Rock music has traditionally always distinguished between songwriters and producers. For instance, apart from the No Line on the Horizon album, none of U2's producers have ever been credited as co-writers. However, in hip hop and electronic music, the product is often the person who makes the beats or instrumental on which the composition in based.
elijah Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Well the best production job was done by Blood Diamonds and DJ Dahi. I wont object on them producing the whole of the next album. Are they the new Stuart Price?
HavenHigh Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Apparently Rami Yacoub, who co-wrote Devil Pray, used to be Max Martin's right hand during the early Britney years and is responsible for a lot of One Direction songs, plus Nicki Minaj's Starships. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Yacoub Savan Kotecha, the other co-writer also did those One Direction songs, plus Britney's If U Seek Amy, I Wanna Go & Christina's Your Body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savan_Kotecha
Msig Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Blood Diamonds wrote in an IG post that he and DJ Dahi co-produced 5 songs on the album. We know that they worked on Devil Pray, Iconic and Body Shop. Which are the others? S.E.X.?
rebelvvv Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I wonder what happened to the Ryan Tedder song. It's Hold Tight.
HavenHigh Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Blood Diamonds wrote in an IG post that he and DJ Dahi co-produced 5 songs on the album. We know that they worked on Devil Pray, Iconic and Body Shop. Which are the others? S.E.X.? I guess Beautiful Scars & Best Night? S.E.X. is supposedly a Kanye track. Will Madonna.com update at all?
Arnian Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Illuminati, Holy Water, Inside Out, and Wash All Over Me are the Kanye tracks I thought.
rebelheart Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Kanye did s.e.x too, dahi & blood diamonds did devil pray, body shop, messiah, beautiful scars & borrowed time!!!
HavenHigh Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Kanye did s.e.x too, dahi & blood diamonds did devil pray, body shop, messiah, beautiful scars & borrowed time!!! Would be nice to have these confirmed finally. It's only been word of mouth that Ryan Tedder did Hold Tight & Kanye reworked Wash All Over Me but no official sources... Iconic was almost surely done by Toby Gad, Josh Cumbee & AFSHeeN.
Msig Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Would be nice to have these confirmed finally. It's only been word of mouth that Ryan Tedder did Hold Tight & Kanye reworked Wash All Over Me but no official sources... Iconic was almost surely done by Toby Gad, Josh Cumbee & AFSHeeN. Kanye's involvement in "Wash All Over Me" was confirmed in the MOJO interview
madmark Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Oh I didn't notice this thread before, but became more intrigued upon opening my CD today and seeing NO credits or a thank you. Thanks for all of the info.
Dindi Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 It's Hold Tight. Really? He wasn't listed as one of the writers on Wikipedia. Weird...
JWAD Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 It's very weird to have not include the credits for the writers and producers, I would have thought they would be quite pissed off not having their work credited. I would have also thought it was a legal requirement to include this is. I cannot understand why it's been omitted???
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