Guest Lum Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I just came across this for the first time and wow! THIS is why I love her!Just a nice reminder that Madonna is the real fucking deal. She's got her shit together and is not afraid to go against the grain. A true artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I just came across this for the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lum Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Excuse me for not being educated on every single Madonna interview in existence the moment it airs. I wasn't even born for six more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Be nice to the kid please. It's a great interview indeed Lum thanks for reminding us of it and sharing for the ones who've never seen it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_On_Her Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Madonna at her peak. Really awesome time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Dream Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddykrueger86 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Just a nice reminder that Madonna is the real fucking deal. She's got her shit together and is not afraid to go against the grain. A true artist. So true. After seeing this how do you think about Joanne now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yea one of my favorites also, she's so damn smart. I think I was 2 when this interview aired? so don't feel bad for not seeing it until recently. She's done so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Excuse me for not being educated on every single Madonna interview in existence the moment it airs. I wasn't even born for six more years. Just ignore. We weren't all adults I n the 90s. Some of us weren't even born yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Is that the jacket she bought in the Chanel store in Truth or Dare? "It's very Janet Jackson rhythm nation...byte ur tongue..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VogueMusic Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 One of the most important moments in Madonna history... let alone pop culture history... And during a time when having these conversations in the public arena was literally playing with fire!!! Could have ended any lesser artist's career...but not this woman...every time the ignorance of the world pushed back, she pushed back harder. I have so much fucking respect for this woman because of moments like these... And this is why Madonna truly is and forever will be the baddest bitch in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 #iconic. She wasn't as eloquent as she could have been, what with that Michigan accent and everything, but I love her POV on the situation. Hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I just came across this for the first time and wow! THIS is why I love her! Just a nice reminder that Madonna is the real fucking deal. She's got her shit together and is not afraid to go against the grain. A true artist. This is one of my favorites!!! She's perfect. :thumbsup; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Is that the jacket she bought in the Chanel store in Truth or Dare? "It's very Janet Jackson rhythm nation...byte ur tongue..." Yes it is acko. Xo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I just had to go and watch the video itself again. It's actually an extremely hot video. I've often wondered if Madonna herself has participated in group sex, sharing partners etc and expressing her own desires. Or was it more about challenging people's views. I've always gotten the impression it was the latter and that her relationships have always been monogamous but it would be an interesting question to pose to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^ Yeah I think she's much more conservative personally than her work implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Oh pLum at least you know all of Gaga's interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anastaza Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I've been a fan for 30 years now, and I'm still coming across stuff (photos, interviews, etc) I've never seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lum Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 So true. After seeing this how do you think about Joanne now? I have my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 One of the most important moments in Madonna history... let alone pop culture history... And during a time when having these conversations in the public arena was literally playing with fire!!! Could have ended any lesser artist's career...but not this woman...every time the ignorance of the world pushed back, she pushed back harder. I have so much fucking respect for this woman because of moments like these... And this is why Madonna truly is and forever will be the baddest bitch in the game. :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Not everyone here is an old jaded queen that originally lived through and rewatched everything 100x! It's awesome Madonna continues to attract a new generation of fans that discover gems like this from her long vast career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Does anyone else find it hot that she's holding a pen She exudes authority...though it's a bit undermined by her frequent "you knows & okays" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Gold Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Omg yes. I found this interview recently and its literally everything. I also love the one with GMA from the same year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Thanks for posting this, brilliant interview Madonna has always come across as well-spoken, articulate, informed, opinionated and someone who's made a fortune in possibly one of the most fickle and at times vacuous of fields but who actually has developed a VOCABULARY. Which is what consistently eludes and eluded most of her contemporaries and the following generations alltogether. Particularly in female pop music. She was great here and she made some pretty great points. This and her Jane Pauley interview from 1987 are some of my old time favourites. She handled stuck-up, incredulous, slightly condescending, 40-something-year-old Pauley brilliantly, at 29 and barely 4 years into her fame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcTO58swcdE "You haven't done much television, have you? But in the 4 years that have elapsed since your debut on the NY disco scene you have gone truly global. How is that possible? You don't like TV? And how comes all those kids that attend those fancy expensive performance art/showbusiness schools didn't get to be Madonna? How can it be tiring doing the show every night? You already know the songs, don't you? Why are you running every day?" Madonna subtly laughing back at her face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam3000 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Being in the UK, I remember reading about this interview at the time and maybe seeing a clip of it somewhere but didn't see the whole thing until later. It was, of course, when Madonna was everywhere - totally inescapable - in the papers, on the news, on magazine covers, brought up all the time on talk shows etc. Here's what Camille Paglia had to say in the New York Times about the interview and the Justify My Love video: Madonna -- Finally, a Real Feminist By Camille Paglia; Camille Paglia, author of "Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson," teaches at the University of the Arts. Published: December 14, 1990 Madonna, don't preach. Defending her controversial new video "Justify My Love" on "Nightline" last week, Madonna stumbled, rambled and ended up seeming far less intelligent than she really is. Madonna, 'fess up. The video is pornographic. It's decadent. And it's fabulous. MTV was right to ban it, a corporate resolve long overdue. Parents cannot possibly control television, with its titanic omnipresence. Prodded by correspondent Forrest Sawyer for evidence of her responsibility as an artist, Madonna hotly proclaimed her love of children, her social activism and her condom endorsements. Wrong answer. As Baudelaire and Oscar Wilde knew, neither art nor the artist has a moral responsibility to liberal social causes. "Justify My Love" is truly avant-garde, at a time when that word has lost its meaning in the flabby art world. It represents a sophisticated European sexuality of a kind we have not seen since the great foreign films of the 1950's and 1960's. But it does not belong on a mainstream music channel watched around the clock by children. On "Nightline," Madonna bizarrely called the video a "celebration of sex." She imagined happy educational scenes where curious children would ask their parents about the video. Oh, sure! Picture it: "Mommy, please tell me about the tired, tied-up man in the leather harness and the mean, bare-chested lady in the Nazi cap." O.K., dear, right after the milk and cookies. Mr. Sawyer asked for Madonna's reaction to feminist charges that, in the neck manacle and floor-crawling of an earlier video, "Express Yourself," she condoned the "degradation" and "humiliation" of women. Madonna waffled: "But I chained myself! I'm in charge." Well, no. Madonna the producer may have chosen the chain, but Madonna the sexual persona in the video is alternately a cross-dressing dominatrix and a slave of male desire. But who cares what the feminists say anyhow? They have been outrageously negative about Madonna from the start. In 1985, Ms. magazine pointedly feted quirky, cuddly singer Cyndi Lauper as its woman of the year. Great judgment: gimmicky Lauper went nowhere, while Madonna grew, flourished, metamorphosed and became an international star of staggering dimensions. She is also a shrewd business tycoon, a modern woman of all-around talent. Madonna is the true feminist. She exposes the puritanism and suffocating ideology of American feminism, which is stuck in an adolescent whining mode. Madonna has taught young women to be fully female and sexual while still exercising total control over their lives. She shows girls how to be attractive, sensual, energetic, ambitious, aggressive and funny -- all at the same time. American feminism has a man problem. The beaming Betty Crockers, hangdog dowdies and parochial prudes who call themselves feminists want men to be like women. They fear and despise the masculine. The academic feminists think their nerdy bookworm husbands are the ideal model of human manhood. But Madonna loves real men. She sees the beauty of masculinity, in all its rough vigor and sweaty athletic perfection. She also admires the men who are actually like women: transsexuals and flamboyant drag queens, the heroes of the 1969 Stonewall rebellion, which started the gay liberation movement. "Justify My Love" is an eerie, sultry tableau of jaded androgynous creatures, trapped in a decadent sexual underground. Its hypnotic images are drawn from such sado-masochistic films as Lililana Cazani's"The Night Porter" and Luchino Visconti's "The Damned." It's the perverse and knowing world of the photographers Helmut Newton and Robert Mapplethorpe. Contemporary American feminism, which began by rejecting Freud because of his alleged sexism, has shut itself off from his ideas of ambiguity, contradiction, conflict, ambivalence. Its simplistic psychology is illustrated by the new cliche of the date-rape furor:" 'No' always means 'no'. " Will we ever graduate from the Girl Scouts? "No" has always been, and always will be, part of the dangerous, alluring courtship ritual of sex and seduction, observable even in the animal kingdom. Madonna has a far profounder vision of sex than do the feminists. She sees both the animality and the artifice. Changing her costume style and hair color virtually every month, Madonna embodies the eternal values of beauty and pleasure. Feminism says, "No more masks." Madonna says we are nothing but masks. Through her enormous impact on young women around the world, Madonna is the future of feminism. http://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/14/opinion/madonna-finally-a-real-feminist.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 You can tell at that point she was more forgiving since she hadn't done too many interviews and wanted to make a good impression. If someone asked her these dumb questions later in her career she'd have been a mega bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelHart Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I love it. to the poster of the vid, I hadn't seen this for the first time until 2008. there are still interviews and various things im still discovering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lum Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Thanks for posting this, brilliant interview Madonna has always come across as well-spoken, articulate, informed, opinionated and someone who's made a fortune in possibly one of the most fickle and at times vacuous of fields but who actually has developed a VOCABULARY. Which is what consistently eludes and eluded most of her contemporaries and the following generations alltogether. Particularly in female pop music. She was great here and she made some pretty great points. This and her Jane Pauley interview from 1987 are some of my old time favourites. She handled stuck-up, incredulous, slightly condescending, 40-something-year-old Pauley brilliantly, at 29 and barely 4 years into her fame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcTO58swcdE "You haven't done much television, have you? But in the 4 years that have elapsed since your debut on the NY disco scene you have gone truly global. How is that possible? You don't like TV? And how comes all those kids that attend those fancy expensive performance art/showbusiness schools didn't get to be Madonna? How can it be tiring doing the show every night? You already know the songs, don't you? Why are you running every day?" Madonna subtly laughing back at her face. Oh my god Jane Pauly is fucking obnoxious But I love how Madonna knows how to push back just enough and with such elegance and class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick00 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 The interview from 1990 was when I first started to become very curious & interested in M. I remember watching this at the time & thinking that I needed to explore M back discography. M is truly revolutionary in the way she has kept the world still interested in her 24 years later!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 She is otherworldly. Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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