Guest Rachelle of London Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I might be the only one who loves MATM, the song, the version without Madge, the video, the remix on the ITZ CD, and Madge's "horrible" vocals on it. Nope I love it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 And the Grammy for Best Female Crow Call Beckoning Britney Spears To Bare Her Soul goes to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confessit Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 For me MATM was the FIRST time madonna "sold out". Her lame cheesy vocal on that song is fucking terrible! The video is just as lame, it looks cheap and nasty.....no effort, Madonna just turned up on a Britney shoot and rolled around as she did the killer dance routine! It could of been amazing.....a la Scream when Jackson and Jackson did the amazing routine in that video.....memorable, iconic and a killer! The fact that after 20years in the biz this was Madonnas first released duet.....well it stinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelHart Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I like the song...still play it, kind of a guilty pleasure track i guess...the video tho is lame. Madonna is dressed way too old and she has that frickin cane in hand...a choreographed dance number with Britney instead of yogo stretches would have been better too. but i like the song and her vocals arent horrid jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Wow i'm suprised, cause they're hardly in the same room at the same time in the video but they're together indeed ! Thank you ! That's the concept of the video. The fact that they aren't in the same room as each other but can feel each other's presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerGirl Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I love Madonna's verse in this song, especially when she sings "I'd rather see you bare your soul" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_On_Her Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 horrible horrible horrible. this with combination of the childrens book playing lady of the manor really was a very hard depressing time to be a hardcore Madonna fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Didn't she say if it's to mean Madgesty, she doesn't mind? Not even considering the scenes in which they were not together, obviously they were on set together when they did that "dance-off." Exactly two years ago (almost to the hour, oddly enough!), there was a guy in the Golden Triangle in Copenhagen waving a sign saying "Madge" and she told him to get rid of it, saying "I hate that name!" The guy had to be told by people around him to put the sign down because he saw her pointing at him and started waving it frantically at her. When did she make the "madgesty" comment? If it was after July 2nd, 2012, then she must have changed her mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacket Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I think she looked great in that white suit and definitely not haggard. I love it that Madonna has so many different looks. Would hate it if she looked the same in every video clip. Agree with everything you said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 horrible horrible horrible. this with combination of the childrens book playing lady of the manor really was a very hard depressing time to be a hardcore Madonna fan For some....but for others, it was just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVC Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This was a down moment for the Queen. Thank god for live 8 and confessions that followed. She had a lot of fans worried during the American life (even though this album is my fav) and then this sell out shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelHart Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This was a down moment for the Queen. Thank god for live 8 and confessions that followed. She had a lot of fans worried during the American life (even though this album is my fav) and then this sell out shit I was a Britney fan, so I was rooting for both of them on this track. The video is the biggest problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Another example of why M should never wear a white pant suit. It just ages her terribly. MADtv nailed it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Another example of why M should never wear a white pant suit. It just ages her terribly. MADtv nailed it: Yeah, yet another pathetic Madonna send up complaining about her age. People are either whining about her plastic surgery or whinging about her looking haggard or constantly bringing up her age. It is so over done, unfair, discriminative and pathetic. Why is there no send ups mocking the age of Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie, Prince, etc. Now, I don't think there should be as love all of those men but ask yourself, why is Madonna's age constantly mocked. As for people moaning about her looking older than Britney, well there is a reason for that - she is older than Britney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 You're not the only one! I love everything about it!! And I fail to see how Madonna's vocals are "horrible." Well, Madonna sure sounded like Whitney Houston compared to Britney's "voice"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairo Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Amazing song, amazing video. Loved this collaboration. Madonna looks fantastic. I was in high school when this happenned and everybody was "Wow MADONNA and Britney again". Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whatatramp Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I might be the only one who loves MATM, the song, the version without Madge, the video, the remix on the ITZ CD, and Madge's "horrible" vocals on it. #yasssssssssss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah, yet another pathetic Madonna send up complaining about her age. People are either whining about her plastic surgery or whinging about her looking haggard or constantly bringing up her age. It is so over done, unfair, discriminative and pathetic. Why is there no send ups mocking the age of Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie, Prince, etc. Now, I don't think there should be as love all of those men but ask yourself, why is Madonna's age constantly mocked. As for people moaning about her looking older than Britney, well there is a reason for that - she is older than Britney. Well, this has been discussed again and again on here. The reason she's probably targeted is because, of course, she's a woman, but also because she's sexually provocative. I do think it's hilarious/pathetic that they've been talking about her age since way back in 2003. But the fact that this spoof isn't far off from the actual song/video says something. She just came off as desperate and that's what they're making fun off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I love that MadTV spoof. I wasn't offended by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocco Papa Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Well, this has been discussed again and again on here. The reason she's probably targeted is because, of course, she's a woman, but also because she's sexually provocative. I do think it's hilarious/pathetic that they've been talking about her age since way back in 2003. But the fact that this spoof isn't far off from the actual song/video says something. She just came off as desperate and that's what they're making fun off. Desperate? What people fail to remember is that it was Britney who asked Madonna to be on the song, not the other way around. (skip to 38:50) Edited July 3, 2014 by RoccoPapa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^ The longer version of the story is that Madonna said "This should be the first single." I don't remember if there were any other details revealed, but neither of us were there for the conversation. I said that it "came off" as desperate, regardless of whether M was actually desperate to appeal to a younger audience or not. The flop album + the VMA performance + the duet with Britney (when she rarely does duets) + the GAP thing created a perception in the public's eye at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocco Papa Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^ The longer version of the story is that Madonna said "This should be the first single." I don't remember if there were any other details revealed, but neither of us were there for the conversation. I said that it "came off" as desperate, regardless of whether M was actually desperate to appeal to a younger audience or not. The flop album + the VMA performance + the duet with Britney (when she rarely does duets) + the GAP thing created a perception in the public's eye at the time. There were other details revealed, as the video I posted clearly states. Britney has said several times that she asked Madonna to be on the song during rehearsals for the VMAs and Madonna accepted. I don't see how public perception of what Madonna does should affect how we feel about it. If that were the case, we'd all be embarrassed by almost everything she does! Anyway, here's another little gem of a story from that time... (skip to 1:33) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Desperate? What people fail to remember is that it was Britney who asked Madonna to be on the song, not the other way around. (skip to 38:50) This. Cue to years later when Madonna enlisted the help of Timberlake with 4 Minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Britney is awful, the song is awful, the video is awful. Even if it wasn't desperate it appeared desperate. The VMA thing was fabulous though. I guess 4 Minutes had a similar stench of "desperation" but at least Madonna was hot in the video, they had a cool dance off and Justin has a lot more credibility and talent than Britney Spears. Also, it wasn't a last minute tag on like MATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacHarris Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Do not shade 4 Minutes. It is the collaboration of LIFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Britney is awful, the song is awful, the video is awful. Even if it wasn't desperate it appeared desperate. The VMA thing was fabulous though. I guess 4 Minutes had a similar stench of "desperation" but at least Madonna was hot in the video, they had a cool dance off and Justin has a lot more credibility and talent than Britney Spears. Also, it wasn't a last minute tag on like MATM. I agree. But honestly, if the song had flopped, we'd be talking just as much shit about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aime Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I miss this Britney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le smoking Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 There were other details revealed, as the video I posted clearly states. Britney has said several times that she asked Madonna to be on the song during rehearsals for the VMAs and Madonna accepted. I don't see how public perception of what Madonna does should affect how we feel about it. If that were the case, we'd all be embarrassed by almost everything she does! Anyway, here's another little gem of a story from that time... (skip to 1:33) omg I forgot about this I think Madonna demonstrated it on Rosie in 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick00 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 At the time it was released, I purchased two different versions of the CD single. I like how they contained different remixes of the song. I remember dancing to this song in clubs, so I never had any idea many M fans did not like the song. I always had mixed feelings toward Britney, but her first remix album & Blackout were very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 They sure were Britney at 5:37 "I think she's a visual artist." No shit Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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