PaulaAbdul Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I just love this album!! It's so effortlessly flawless. It doesn't feel forced like some of her later work feels. I hope she can get back to this kind of vibe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacHarris Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I just love this album!! It's so effortlessly flawless. It doesn't feel forced like some of her later work feels. I hope she can get back to this kind of vibe! Shade, Paula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Music to me has always been massively OVERATED! I only like 3 or 4 songs, and even then they aren't amazing. Music rode on ROL success. Erotica, Bedtime Stories and ROL are far, far better than Music IMO. Nobody's Perfect has to be one of the most horrendous songs Madonna has ever recorded. I agree with that whole-heartedly. Unlistenable. I do think the album is a little underrated in that aside from two tracks ("Nobody's Perfect" and "Runaway Lover"), the rest of the material is pretty strong. "Amazing" is a total rewrite of "Beautiful Stranger" but I'll allow it considering what got some amazing stuff on here like "Paradise", :What It Feels Like For a Girl", Don't Tell Me" and "Music". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulaAbdul Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Shade, Paula? I'm just saying! I adore MDNA more than the average fan here does BUT it does feel very forced! It's just a different style and that's okay. American Life feels very forced as well in some parts. I still love them though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I adore Nobody's perfect but i understand it must be hard on the ears of people used to listen to Adele, Coldplay or Phil Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Although the 'net was huge in 2000, I was not a regular poster on any forums at that time. So I have never been clear on what happened with the second single. If I remember correctly, WIFLFAG was mentioned in a couple of magazine articles around the album's release as the definite second single. At some point, obviously that changed. Was it the Letterman performance that caused DTM to become the second single? Good choice! I do remember WIFLFAG getting played somewhat regularly on my local pop station, and I was surprised when it stalled at Number 23 on Billboard for like three weeks in a row! The R&R chart was also big back then, and I wouldn't be surprised if it made it higher on that. Similar to how "Rain" was a top 5 smash on R&R but a respectable number 14 on Billboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I adore Nobody's perfect but i understand it must be hard on the ears of people used to listen to Adele, Coldplay or Phil Collins. I will never understand why some people react defensively to a different opinion as if it is an attack on their own tastes. Yes, of course, all the people who hate "Nobody's Perfect" only like Adele, Coldplay or Phil Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I adore Nobody's perfect but i understand it must be hard on the ears of people used to listen to Adele, Coldplay or Phil Collins. I pity those easy listener types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I pity those easy listener types. People have different tastes but it is possible to love all sorts of music. Madonna fans in general have a broad range of music they love - pop, classical, country and western, alternative, rock, rap, heavy metal - the list goes on. I myself love virtually all of Madonna's music and let's face it, she has a diverse range of styles which I applaud her for. Also, Madonna herself loves Adele and music from old Hollywood musicals. She adored Julie Andrews and has also mentioned her love for Karen Carpenter. ( you can't get more easy listening than that ) Embrace all sorts of music and don't pity or look down on anything for their tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 People have different tastes but it is possible to love all sorts of music. Madonna fans in general have a broad range of music they love - pop, classical, country and western, alternative, rock, rap, heavy metal - the list goes on. I myself love virtually all of Madonna's music and let's face it, she has a diverse range of styles which I applaud her for. Also, Madonna herself loves Adele and music from old Hollywood musicals. She adored Julie Andrews and has also mentioned her love for Karen Carpenter. ( you can't get more easy listening than that ) Embrace all sorts of music and don't pity or look down on anything for their tastes. yeah, true. i LOVE madonna's easy listening stuff. much of i'm breathless, something to remember and bedtime stories, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 yeah, true. i LOVE madonna's easy listening stuff. much of i'm breathless, something to remember and bedtime stories, for example. Great music. Madonna is incredible with her diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It's still on my regular rotation, and over time there are songs I love and some that I don't love as much. Impressive Instant still blows me away, the "singy singy singy, like a bird on a wingy wingy wingy" should've never worked, but it still puts a smile on my face every time. Paradise (not for me) is haunting and brilliant. Gone is perfect. Music is still fresh and funky to me. I Deserve It is such a great song. The only 2 songs I don't really care for too much anymore are Amazing and WIFLFAG. It's not that I dislike them, but I just haven't felt the need to hear them for a while. So, yes I do think it's an underrated album, and I think a lot of fans are turned off by the lack of cohesion from track to track. I prefer the sonic scavenger hunt of Music, it's a fun and thoughtful album. But because ROL ( although a masterpiece) could be a bit too "concept" sonically, I usually skip around more than other albums. Music is a succinct statement. Short and to the point. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I LOVE Nobody's Perfect! Amazing was a rewrite of BS which was based on the backing track for one of WO's remixes of ROL As for WIFLFAG being the second single, that was the rumour at the time, but it was changed to DTM before the album was even released (so before the Letterman appearance). I remember very clearly preferring "Music" to ROL, and then I preferred AL to "Music". Same for COADF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le smoking Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As for WIFLFAG being the second single, that was the rumour at the time, but it was changed to DTM before the album was even released (so before the Letterman appearance). I think WIFLFAG was confirmed as the 2nd single around the time the single debuted, but then madonnamusic.com or whatever her url was back in the day said that she "wanted something more upbeat", so Don't Tell Me became the 2nd single. I've been listening to this album a lot lately and I just love it. None of the songs have lost their luster. The album to me is Madonna at her most irreverent and her most human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Although the 'net was huge in 2000, I was not a regular poster on any forums at that time. So I have never been clear on what happened with the second single. If I remember correctly, WIFLFAG was mentioned in a couple of magazine articles around the album's release as the definite second single. At some point, obviously that changed. Was it the Letterman performance that caused DTM to become the second single? Good choice! I do remember WIFLFAG getting played somewhat regularly on my local pop station, and I was surprised when it stalled at Number 23 on Billboard for like three weeks in a row! The R&R chart was also big back then, and I wouldn't be surprised if it made it higher on that. Similar to how "Rain" was a top 5 smash on R&R but a respectable number 14 on Billboard. Thanks, i didn't knew about that! It would have been a mistake, DTM was the perfect second single for this album. I REALLY don't get all the dislike Amazing is getting, it's one of my favourites from Music. So damn catchy and her voice at the very beginning is really beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Nobody's Perfect IS perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtangi74 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 the dislike of amazing by most people is because it is just a copy of BS. nothing new, fresh etc.....just a copy....lazy william. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabl0114 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I like amazing, doesn't really bother me much that it sounds a lot like BS. I does remind me a bit of janitor and her tendency to repeat sounds from album to album. I'm glad M didn't make that a habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I adore Nobody's perfect but i understand it must be hard on the ears of people used to listen to Adele, Coldplay or Phil Collins. shade........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 i don't understand people saying, like a dismiss, amazing is a rewrite of bs or i'm a sinner is a copy of bs...they come from the same writing couple....the style is the same.....duh... and nip is a great track...in the vein of secret garden, mer girl and others.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares1987 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I love Music album. I think is her best record ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 the dislike of amazing by most people is because it is just a copy of BS. nothing new, fresh etc.....just a copy....lazy william. I fail to see how it's a copy. It never crossed my mind and i love both songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 i don't understand people saying, like a dismiss, amazing is a rewrite of bs or i'm a sinner is a copy of bs...they come from the same writing couple....the style is the same.....duh... and nip is a great track...in the vein of secret garden, mer girl and others.... Well said! BS and Amazing have a similar style but they're not copies, the melodies are clearly different. I love Music album. I think is her best record ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I listened to it yesterday, and then went on to have a bit of a fieldday and listened to AL, COADF, HC and MDNA. I've never been a huge fan of Music... the production is quirky and solid, her vocals are beautiful, the mixing is good, the songwriting is lovely... but it doesn't work for me I can never get behind it. Though that said, I couldn't tell you why for the life of me. American Life on the other hand That album has aged magnificently. The flow is wonderful, the tracks beautiful at best, and jarring at worst: but I think the key difference is AL seeks to be jarring in every way, therefore even when the tracks jarring is unpleasant it's hardly unsuccessful. When Music is soppy and clichéd I think it's a failure because while she may have been trying for simple/classic she probably wasn't going for wet fish. *apologises for derailing thread* I think Music is rare in M's canon in that it is neither under nor overrated and is actually recognised solidly as what it is. The only other one of her works I can think that is viewed quite as fairly is Like a Virgin. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I think WIFLFAG was confirmed as the 2nd single around the time the single debuted, but then madonnamusic.com or whatever her url was back in the day said that she "wanted something more upbeat", so Don't Tell Me became the 2nd single. I've been listening to this album a lot lately and I just love it. None of the songs have lost their luster. The album to me is Madonna at her most irreverent and her most human. I've always had the impression that Warner was behind the releases of Sorry and WIFLFAG. I know M really liked Girl, but I wouldn't be surprised if she had other songs in mind for the 3rd single. WB must of picked it as a "safe" choice, then she retaliated by going all out for the video with Guy by making it "controversial." Then there was the fiasco where WB wanted Amazing with a live music video from the tour, so M replaced the song with Beautiful Stranger. As for Sorry, well we knew it was going to be second single even before HU released. I bet M really wanted Get Together, she never even bothered to perform Sorry on the promo tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthecat Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I've never been too sure about that rumour of WIFLFAG being the 2nd single. Don't Tell Me always seemed like the most obvious single. I have a feeling that the rumour started because in the UK the CD came with an extra Madonna Catalog booklet, and by the side of Music it stated "featuring the hit singles American Pie, Music and What It Feels Like For A Girl". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Listened to this today, and it's absolutely my second favorite Madonna cd after LAP. It's possible it will take over the top spot one day. Not a single wasted second or boring moment for me. So many highlights: the second time she sings the killer vocal bridge in Runaway Lover; the "and I thank you" at the end of I Deserve It; the moment when all the instruments fade away and it's just her singing in "Amazing"; the final, mournful "what it feels like in this world" in WIFLFAG; the epic scope of Paradise; the beauty that is Gone. Oh, and the "uh, uh, uh" hotness in the title track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You forgot to mention the "perfect" repetition at the end of "Nobody's Perfect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You forgot to mention the "perfect" repetition at the end of "Nobody's Perfect." Yes I did, and I love that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You forgot to mention the "perfect" repetition at the end of "Nobody's Perfect." Yes I did, and I love that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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