Bill Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 A Facebook friend posted a link to this video. The claim is that her pitch was adjusted higher on GGW, GMAYL, and TUTR... I've heard about this before, on Like a Virgin. I can hear and understand it more, back then, but here, I don't know... Couldn't she have just been singing in a higher pitch? Both voices sound like her natural voice, to me. What do you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL5R0N4ybcY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 In MTL, clearly her pitch was adjusted. Sometimes, she sounded like Minnie Mouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 MTL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddykrueger86 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 "Girl Gone Wild" actually sounds good with a deeper pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runa Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 MTL? Montreal... I meant during the show in Montreal in fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlover Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 All three songs sound a little better with the pitch lowered imo. The person who made that video is right, it does sound more like the M we know. However, on the original versions I think M was just singing in a higher register, not pitch corrected in post production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SecretGarden Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Hmmm. I actually disagree with that video, in fact all of the "deeper" versions sound far less natural. People forget that the deep Madonna voice from her pre-Evita days is basically gone, she has quite a high voice now with a very nasal tone, very reminiscent of her debut days. Now, there was obviously some correction going on with the vocals on MDNA (as with the majority of studio albums) but pitching up her vocals? For the most part, I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Confessions and Hard Candy sounded adjusted to me, makes her sound younger and more 80s, I don't even notice it anymore, but in that youtube link the deeper voice does not sound natural either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Hmmm. I actually disagree with that video, in fact all of the "deeper" versions sound far less natural. Definitely. If they WERE pitched up its by a semitone max. Oh and Madonnas range covers that higher pitch so she wouldn't need to have her vocals pitchshifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You could clearly see which ones were going to be the singles. The other highpitched one was Superstar, and voila, almost a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 1:54 Madonna can sing within that range ESPECIALLY in a studio situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You could clearly see which ones were going to be the singles. The other highpitched one was Superstar, and voila, almost a single. That's to do with tempo and key, nothing else. She reaches higher notes in Love spent too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 She has a little girl voice and she has highpitched songs. If you can't hear the difference, it's up to you. LAV was high pitched and it's very different to other moments where she makes the girlie voice (for example Crazy for You). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SecretGarden Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 She has a little girl voice and she has highpitched songs. If you can't hear the difference, it's up to you. LAV was high pitched and it's very different to other moments where she makes the girlie voice (for example Crazy for You).I don't understand. Watch Like a Virgin at the MTV awards and it basically sounds on par in pitch to the studio version. Heck I just viewed some TUTR performances and sound checks on youtube and they almost all sounded just as high in pitch as the studio version (with one or two being a semitone lower). The fact of the matter is, she can sing in that octave range, so why would they need to fake it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I dont see any problem , its know studio technique since forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 She has a little girl voice and she has highpitched songs. If you can't hear the difference, it's up to you. LAV was high pitched and it's very different to other moments where she makes the girlie voice (for example Crazy for You). Actually I'm sure Beatswithin heard from the horses mouth that this was a fallacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 the songs probably were sung in a slower tempo and sped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenButterfly Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I didn't really think of it while listening to Hard Candy and MDNA because I didn't notice it that much because she and the engineers do such a good job of covering it up. For example, It's not the case where pitch shifting is used to a noticeable degree like the on Mariah's E=MC2 and Memoirs albums where Mariah is deliberately pitch shifting a lower octave register to make us think she can still hit those notes and doubling or layering her vocals to make her thin voice sound richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 ^ Is that true???? oh my... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 at that video, it's the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SecretGarden Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As with most of the vocals on MDNA, there is obviously some correction here - Melodyne (vocal correction software) was probably used here as with the other songs on MDNA but the vocals aren't necessarily pitched up, just polished up and flat notes are corrected. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As with most of the vocals on MDNA, there is obviously some correction here - Melodyne (vocal correction software) was probably used here as with the other songs on MDNA but the vocals aren't necessarily pitched up, just polished up and flat notes are corrected. In my opinion. THIS. I swear the shit people come up with on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The thing is, if you change the pitch by a semitone or even a tone either way it's going to sound like the persons voice because that is still within their range. So this "evidence" doesn't prove anything. And the 'Like a Virgin' thing was said to be false wasn't it? If the intent of this theory is to prove Madonna's voice is "fake" or that she can't sing her own songs its a massive fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As with most of the vocals on MDNA, there is obviously some correction here - Melodyne (vocal correction software) was probably used here as with the other songs on MDNA but the vocals aren't necessarily pitched up, just polished up and flat notes are corrected. In my opinion. Yes. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I swear the shit people come up with on the internet.Desperate for attentionLike those arseholes that come up with fake demos/leaks. I mean it's just sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think it's a fake voice, but GGW GMAWL TUTR and Superstar have the same voice, while the other songs have another one. And it's a voice i have never heard before in a Madonna album. Maybe is that Melodyne (i love the name, hahahahaha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As with most of the vocals on MDNA, there is obviously some correction here - Melodyne (vocal correction software) was probably used here as with the other songs on MDNA but the vocals aren't necessarily pitched up, just polished up and flat notes are corrected. In my opinion. I don't see why they would pitch up the vocals to the extent of the original video considering its well within Madonna's range to sing that high. No. This isn't the original (unedited) recording. Somebody has filtered the layers from the record leaving only the vocal layers. That's why you still hear the processed vocals etc, etc. Madonna actually doesn't really use autotune but instead utilises specific recording conditions and effects. You even hear her sing 'sharp' sometimes. She's very clever leaving her breath on songs at times and not making herself sound plastic. Considering its electronic music her vocal texture stays relatively intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think it's a fake voice, but GGW GMAWL TUTR and Superstar have the same voice, while the other songs have another one. And it's a voice i have never heard before in a Madonna album. Maybe is that Melodyne (i love the name, hahahahaha) It's called a vocal REGISTER. She sings higher than those songs on the American life album. What kind of fan are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think it's a fake voice, but GGW GMAWL TUTR and Superstar have the same voice, while the other songs have another one. And it's a voice i have never heard before in a Madonna album. Maybe is that Melodyne (i love the name, hahahahaha) No it's not. I know what melodyne sounds like when it's obvious. And that isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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