Barbie Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 No, what I was trying to say is that she should dress sexy, but having your saggy ass hanging out of a pait of hotpanta leaning over a sofa isnt "sexy"... sorry. But alas... Child bye, there is nothing saggy about her ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Child bye, there is nothing saggy about her ass. Really...? Are we watching the same video...? Besides how do you think that ass looks without fishnets or those pants squeezing it together... Im just saying. Nevertheless Im sure theyll post it on some porn sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Besides how do you think that ass looks without fishnets or those pants squeezing it together... Unless she removed her bottoms that night then it doesn't really matter. and she didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Unless she removed her bottoms that night then it doesn't really matter. and she didn't. Fair enough on that point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Fair enough on that point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 When someone goes to the trouble of making a gif like that they could at least bother to fix the aspect ratio... Im just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 When someone goes to the trouble of making a gif like that they could at least bother to fix the aspect ratio... Im just saying... Don't tell the creator how to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Don't tell the creator how to create. Yees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Yees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Yeees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why...? Because its ridiculous and serves no purpouse. The fact that she is 53 just makes the whole thing more stupid. Youre right of course nobody should be able to tell her what to do, but cmon... its getting real old. Plus every other female performer nowadays does it. ...and there we have it - pure and simple ageism at it's finest. Flaunting arse cheeks/tits and vaginas might be old hat but it's the worlds biggest marketing tool...and you're forgetting Madonna has done it since the dawn of time...way before those other girls and you expect her to remove her crotchless panties, put on some bloomers and turn celibate? - She's 53, not 73. SHITE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 ...and there we have it - pure and simple ageism at it's finest. Flaunting arse cheeks/tits and vaginas might be old hat but it's the worlds biggest marketing tool...and you're forgetting Madonna has done it since the dawn of time...way before those other girls and you expect her to remove her crotchless panties, put on some bloomers and turn celibate? - She's 53, not 73. SHITE! Call it ageism all you want... simple fact is shes getting too old to pull off this routine. At least as far as mainstream market goes... Im sure she has a loyal following with the gay crowd for decades to come though. Kind of like that Grace woman from the bond movie whos name Ive forgotten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeMo Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 She can dress how she wants when she goes out to a nightclub. As long as she doesn't smear her vagina all over her artwork and videos, I'm fine. Some vag is fine but I want something more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Call it ageism all you want... simple fact is shes getting too old to pull off this routine. At least as far as mainstream market goes... Im sure she has a loyal following with the gay crowd for decades to come though. Kind of like that Grace woman from the bond movie whos name Ive forgotten... I've consistently come up against resistance in certain areas. I think that the world is not comfortable with female sexuality. It's always coming from a male point of view, and a woman is being objectified by a man — and even women are comfortable with that. But when a woman does it, ironically, women are uncomfortable with it. I think a lot of that has to do with conditioning." Straight men did not find me attractive," she says. "I think they were scared of me because I was different. I've always asked, 'Why? Why do I have to do that? Why do I have to look this way? Why do I have to dress this way? Why do I have to behave this way? The last part is exactly what she still is doing now. that's why shes also saying that she still feels like shes in highschool now, because today people judge her just the same way as then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Saying people were scared of her becuaus she is different is kind of a cop out if you ask me... I mean this is the same woman who honestly thinks she is a good actress. And I also find it ironic how she dresses like she wants men to look at her yet says she is all about empowering female sexuality. So female sexuality in her mind is what were seeing her do now... okay, looks pretty similar to what you see in porn geared towards males... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Saying people were scared of her becuaus she is different is kind of a cop out if you ask me... I mean this is the same woman who honestly thinks she is a good actress. And I also find it ironic how she dresses like she wants men to look at her yet says she is all about empowering female sexuality. So female sexuality in her mind is what were seeing her do now... okay, looks pretty similar to what you see in porn geared towards males... maybe she just wants to dress like that because she feels satisfied with the way she looks, or she wants to because it makes HER feel happy. its not always about what the other person thinks. its like a girl wearing heels in the city with a skirt on, it doesnt mean that she is doing it to get male attention, maybe she just WANTS to, for HERSELF. thats the problem so many men have, they always think its about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 maybe she just wants to dress like that because she feels satisfied with the way she looks, or she wants to because it makes HER feel happy. its not always about what the other person thinks. its like a girl wearing heels in the city with a skirt on, it doesnt mean that she is doing it to get male attention, maybe she just WANTS to, for HERSELF. thats the problem so many men have, they always think its about them. So why would a women want to fell sexy for herself...? I hear that alot but I dont buy it, it could be a fetisch of sorts but... you dont do that in public unless its for public display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck82 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Yes okay, sorry about the phsycology bullshit... derailing the thread here Im afraid. So yea, Smirnoff party, new dancer, dudes with digital cinema cameras filming the event... documentary for the tour? Maybe snippets for the msuic video...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 So why would a women want to fell sexy for herself...? I hear that alot but I dont buy it, it could be a fetisch of sorts but... you dont do that in public unless its for public display. for the same reason men do, because they want to show that theyre comfortable with their own body, because theyre proud, that they want to give the best of themselves they can. why does iggy pop wear close to nothing and show his ugly old behind to thousands of people night after night? because he can, because he wants to. no one questions that he is doing it for himself and not to attract a female audience. he does it because he feels like it. maybe underneath it all it does come down to wanting to be appreciated, to feel loved or looked up to, to make people think "wow, she looks amazing". and well, she certainly looks mazing or at least she feels that way, and being aware of that gives HER pride and more confidence. so again i think it all comes down to the person who is showing what they got. I think she also realizes that she wont look like this forever, no matter how much she works out and now that shes still very comfortable with her body, she's showing it. just like she was comfortable with hairy armpits in high school even when most people probably rolled their eyes over it (and yes im aware that this is a slightly different issue) also, cyndi lauper did pretty much the same thing in a much bigger public event and she looked far worse, yet she got praise everywhere FOR showing off. so with madonna, i think its just a very personal thing when people discredit her (physique) I do think a lot of people are jealous, whether they realize it themselves or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The kind of camera theyre using there (some type of Arri Alexa? unless my eyes are way off) is way beyond normal for shooting random event stuff. So it has to be for something of a more cinematic nature, definately not some youtube shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 At WHAT age PhenomX was she expected to burn the leotards and dust off the Hazmat suit? Her 35th birthday? Her 50th? Obviously you won't be able to give me an age because there isn't one. She looks fucking phenomenal and if she wasn't Madonna and we didn't know her birth date no one would call her an eyesore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 She looks fantastic and all my female friends (the majority of whom are in their 30s) say they wish they had a body like hers. And if she wants to show it off, so be it. More power to her I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomX Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) She can wear what the hell she wants of course... she can wear diapers on stage for all I care, but it looks ridiculous to have you asscheeks hanging out sitting at some dance contest... I mean wtf. As for Iggy Pop, its kind of his gimmick, hes not trying to be sexy which is a different thing. Sahkira gets away with shaking her ass half her concerts because its her gimmick etc, Madonna almost certainly does it to feel sexy and whatnot and thats wehn it fails... but... please dont make me continue this discussion becasue poeple are going to freak, topic will derail, mods will get pissed and some members will start talking about her cheeks. Smirnoff contest, camera... -> Edited November 15, 2011 by PhenomX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 oh please be quiet! Madonna looks amazing!!!! and yes, she is 53 ... so get over it and move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eu4ria Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nTB2LmyDdc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapple Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 She can wear what the hell she wants of course... she can wear diapers on stage for all I care, but it looks ridiculous to have you asscheeks hanging out sitting at some dance contest... I mean wtf. As for Iggy Pop, its kind of his gimmick, hes not trying to be sexy which is a different thing. Sahkira gets away with shaking her ass half her concerts because its her gimmick etc, Madonna almost certainly does it to feel sexy and whatnot and thats wehn it fails... but... please dont make me continue this discussion becasue poeple are going to freak, topic will derail, mods will get pissed and some members will start talking about her cheeks. Smirnoff contest, camera... -> get the fuck out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernatural Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 must be a slow night for negativity to attack that fantastic ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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