Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Don't you just hate it when you go to one of her shows and some annoying person next to you says 'Do you know if she does any of her eighties songs?'. I mean if that's what you want then be a fan of Kylie, Cher or one of those kind of things. I wouldn't have her live performances any other way. It's hardly like nobody is attending so the budget is gonna be cut next time round. I honestly don't need to hear a GH tour. Imagine how bored Madonna would get (uninspired people are uninspiring) if she were performing everything straight up every night on her tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai Papi Si. Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I guess that I simply don't share your optimism here. Young people certainly have shorter attention spans on these sorts of things -- and they're certainly spend their money more freely -- but Madonna's fanbase isn't young anything anymore. Just shy of 30, I'm pretty sure than my boyfriend and I were the youngest fans in our section by a full decade. Madonna's fanbase is mostly 30-, 40-, 50-something -- age sets that are much more cognizant of their spending. They'll remember bad press and they may reconsider investing large sums of money in tickets next time around. I went to 3 MDNA shows. Everyone around me, all 3 times, were people my age. I am 26. I saw them in two very different cities too - Dallas and New York City. Madonna is not Barbra Streisand, she is not Smellton, she isn't Cher. The proof of this is very simple - last year, she was the most discussed musicians on the one website that is synonymous with youth: Facebook. Lady Gaga didn't even make it on the list. Granted, half of it was probably hate, but do you know how many people use Facebook? A LOT. And the heaviest users are the youngest ones. If she's managing to that at 54 years old, we shouldn't be writing her off as a nostalgia act just yet. She's still a very potent public figure who appeals to so many people of so many different ages and that's why she is as revered as she is. Nikki said that her fanbase seems to be getting younger - while that may not be anything more than anecdotal, it does not look like the fanbase of someone like Celine Dion or Cher. I thought we were all pretty much on the same page on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yeah. I mean I'm like totally twenty one and I LOVE her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's RIDICULOUS. I have to commute all the way to battery park! Anyway, you lose on the basis that Madonna gets the last word. Not you. Not me. And she keeps changing up her songs and I can ASSURE you she will continue to do so! Goodnight! Huh? I'm so lost.... What side are you on? Does she need to change up her setlist and perform the hits to please fans and concert goers? Or should she just follow her own intuition as she has been since the dawn of time and do whatever the fuck she wants? Cause I'm with the latter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It doesnt suprise me if in many places she performs her fanbase is getting younger in the crowd after each recent tour. Dont forget, her ROL period was a rebirth for her and her career in many ways. It gave birth to a WHOLE new generation of young fans that could have very well been in their late tweens and early teens at the time. Fans that only now during her last 3 tours have had the money to finally go and see her live. I think this is why each time she tours she does have such a mixed crowd of older and younger people more and more. This didnt seem like the case for The Drowned World Tour. I felt like every review I read about the show made a mention of how the crowd was nothing but middle aged people. The "Ray of Lighters" as PUD calls them didnt start packing the seats until around The Confessions Tour I would say. At least thats how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Also you would think at this point people would learn that Madonna isnt going to put on a greatest hits tour. (At least not yet) She has done 5 sellout world tours in the last 12 years. Each one of them consisted of a few hits sprinkled in with the bulk of the show being songs from her recent album at the time. Even the Reinvention Tour which some claim as a "greatest hits" tour 25% of the songs were from her recent album which by and large was probably the biggest flop of her career. (Would hate to see how badly it would have sold had it been released now when album sales are even lower) So with all of that you would think the people that bitch about the lack of hits would have woken up already, yet somehow she keeps filling those seats time after time. And speaking of time after time....Think of poor Cyndi. No matter where she goes, and no matter what she does, she is expected to sing that song over and over and over and over and over. Lucky for Madonna she doesnt have to worry about things like that. She can keep giving her fanbase something new and fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreeyen Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It doesnt suprise me if in many places she performs her fanbase is getting younger in the crowd after each recent tour. Dont forget, her ROL period was a rebirth for her and her career in many ways. It gave birth to a WHOLE new generation of young fans that could have very well been in their late tweens and early teens at the time. Fans that only now during her last 3 tours have had the money to finally go and see her live. I think this is why each time she tours she does have such a mixed crowd of older and younger people more and more. This didnt seem like the case for The Drowned World Tour. I felt like every review I read about the show made a mention of how the crowd was nothing but middle aged people. The "Ray of Lighters" as PUD calls them didnt start packing the seats until around The Confessions Tour I would say. At least thats how I see it. I agree with this. I'd even go so far as to say the same sort of thing happened with the last three albums. "Confessioners" and "Hard Candyers" (haha lame) like myself are getting to an age when buying a ticket to a Madonna concert is just a matter of saving up. I'm 100 percent sure even my seventeen year old sister, an MDNAer (ok, I'll stop) would be down to see the next tour if she could get a ticket. Madonna is very much relevant to today's young pop music listeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SecretGarden Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I think if she did perform her songs the way they sound like on the album and never changed/updated them I'd get really bored, I actually really like many of her updates - the Candy Shop mix on the MDNA tour is so refreshing when compared to the album version. Some are lacklustre though (Hung Up should only be performed in its original form). Edited June 3, 2013 by SecretGarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Together Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 My one complaint is that she didn't perf Some Girls. Now it will never happen. So damn true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 She's said it countless times that she gets sick of doing those old songs and the only way she can do them is if they are "re-invented." In a way, she's been doing this since BAT. You're right, she has. I'd be so disappointed if I went to her next concert and she performed the immaculate collection with original dance routines. I'd be like 'who is this woman and where is Madonna?'. She actually includes an regular ratio of hits and album tracks on each tour since and including BAT. Look at TGS! Even though many people mistake RIT for a greatest hits tour it clearly had a lot of album tracks and reworked tracks on it. "The Beast Within" (Video Introduction) (contains elements of "El Yom 'Ulliqa 'Ala Khashaba") "Vogue" "Nobody Knows Me" "Frozen" "American Life" "Express Yourself" "Burning Up" "Material Girl" "Hollywood" (Remix) (Dancer/Video Interlude) "Hanky Panky" "Deeper and Deeper" "Die Another Day" "Lament" "Bedtime Story" (Remix) (Dancer/Video Interlude) "Nothing Fails" "Don't Tell Me (contained elements of "Bitter Sweet Symphony" in most European shows) "Like a Prayer" "Mother and Father" (contains excerpts from "Intervention") "Imagine" "Into the Groove" (contains elements of "Susan MacLeod" and "Into the Hollywood Groove") "Papa Don't Preach" (ends with a reprise of "American Life") "Crazy for You" "Music" (contains elements from "Into the Groove") "Holiday" (contains elements of "She Wants to Move") 1 cover 1 remix of a new album song 1 remix of a past remix 1 remix of a mildly received single 4 new album songs 4 lesser known hits 12 renditions of big hits close to the original So half the set list aren't big hits. I don't think we can call it a greatest hits tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabl0114 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 At least here in atlanta in the upper section the casual fans were jst sitting in their sears or making endless trips for beer. So yeah, I'm sure more hits would have perked up the crowd. Tbh I wouldn't mind a few more hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvat Jens Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would love a GH's tour, and yes, it would go down well with the audience... especially for the MDNA tour a lot of people seemed to be leaving the concert halfway through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Back with Girlie Show, she said she likes to change arrangements around for the old songs, whatnot, and if people want to hear the song in original form, they can stay at home and listen to the record. I love it. Even with re-Invention, she did just that to some old songs (though something like "Deeper and Deeper" wouldn't be a "classic" to the general public like the obvious ones). She did more classics on RIT than other tours since 2001, but no GH tour would have a handful of AL tracks, "Deeper," "Hanky Panky," "Lament," "Beast Within," etc. And I don't think we'll ever really see a proper GH Tour- well, maybe when she's in her 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would love a GH's tour, and yes, it would go down well with the audience... especially for the MDNA tour a lot of people seemed to be leaving the concert halfway through Not at my show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbie Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 At least here in atlanta in the upper section the casual fans were jst sitting in their sears or making endless trips for beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Not at my show. Me neither! M even remarked about the crowd in Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 MDNA is a work of art and the idea that she should "perform more hits" is stupid. I'm not against her doing a Greatest Hits tour but not yet. For the next tour I want something as inspired and creative as this last one. She can do a Greatest Hits tour after that, sort of like a farewell thing (but without calling it that obviously.) That's the kind of show she could do in a round and just make it more of a stadium concert like the Who's That Girl Tour to cater for the average idiot. But for now, MDNA tour was PERFECTION. More of that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If she had brought MDNA to Australia, would you have wanted her to change up the setlist so she can do Into The Groove, or is it fine as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If she had brought MDNA to Australia, would you have wanted her to change up the setlist so she can do Into The Groove, or is it fine as is? Well being an Australian fan and having never seen her live, it makes it tricky because there's so many songs I want to see/hear. And in the past I was all "Oh she should add Music and Ray of Light to the setlist when she brings MDNA here." And I think that would have made sense in Australia because she's skipped it so many times since those songs were released. They could have been added as encores sort of like how she added Holiday in certain cities even though it wasn't officially part of the show. But when you think of MDNA as the piece of art that it is, and the way she creates the show's concepts BEFORE she chooses the setlist, I just don't imagine this show would have worked with too many hits. There is certainly room to swap afew songs but I'd much prefer an artistic, brilliant show like this one then some random hits marathon. Obviously ANY setlist would work for me because I know every single one of her songs and love almost all of them. I do understand the perspective of the casual concert goers. But I'd much prefer see an incredible show like MDNA than have a fun time dancing to Lucky Star and Into The Groove with my friends at a Madonna concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 But for now, MDNA tour was PERFECTION. More of that please. Vogue, Like A Prayer, Express Yourself, Open Your Heart and Papa Don't Preach would have kept the casual Australian fans reasonably happy, and if she included something like Holiday and Music as extras (as bluejean suggested), then that would have reduced the grumbling. Hung Up and Like A Virgin would have partially placated the casuals. Big fans would have loved the lesser known material and the casuals should have been blown away by the sheer spectacle of the whole production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 It just baffles me that people RAVE about Lady Gaga's concerts as the best thing ever. I do wonder what the response would be if Madonna came here with a show like MDNA. But in reality, I don't think I'd really care what the average village idiot had to say. I've gotten used to people being negative about Madonna especially in the last 5 years and it doesn't change my own experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 bluejean - remember they complained about the setlist in 1993, so nothing's going to keep everyone happy now. I remember after the show in Berlin last year, I was texting a friend back here while I was heading back to the hotel and I was raving about how it was going to blow everyone away. The "lack" of "hits" meant nothing - it's an artistic triumph and Madonna at her absolute best, hands down. I was shattered when I found out that I wouldn't get to experience it again and was utterly crushed for everyone who missed out here at home. My disappointment was miniscule compared to yours and everyone else's here. This tour would have silenced her Australian critics and she would never have needed to set foot in the country again for her legacy to be secure here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carta Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 bluejean - you'll choke when you read this absolutely pathetic review....! http://www.examiner.com/review/madonna-mdna-tour-impresses-but-she-is-no-lady-gaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 If they were talking about singing only I'd say "fair call" but dancing? Lady Gaga cannot dance at all. That article immediately loses all credibility right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an_mdna_fan Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I want to laugh...after reading the article. Is it supposed to be sarcastic? I think if u ask 100 people, 99 would say her analogy between gaga n madonna vs bieber n Beatles is the reverse of reality. Who would think gaga is Beatles n madonna is bieber? Lol she obviously wrote the article out of jealous n frustration. She is upset that gaga tour flop n cancelled n madonna is so successful n vent it through this article. Jealousy is scarry.... She just makes herself a joke to everyone. N she thinks someone in this world would takes her article as realjournalism? It might as well be a post on gagadaily or twitter by a little monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an_mdna_fan Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Maybe somehow by writing that article, she tries to help gaga cling to her remaining relevance. Because without mentioning madonna, no one cares about gaga anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an_mdna_fan Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 One more thing, if gaga tour was so successful n her dance moves were so brilliant, why no one is interested in buying the broadcasting right of her tour when m sold her for millions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Because she's a fat gremlin being heaved into a meat grinder and dancing badly amongst paper mâché props Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 And gaga played all her s hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paparazzo Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 And gaga played all her s hits Well it is only her second/third album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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