ryan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Either someone is playing an elaborate joke or the joke is on me... this isn't the album version. This is not what I heard the other day. Maybe this is the radio mix (very bad at that). Something isn't right here. What tipped me off is the ending of the song. It ends @ 3:20. The time listing for the album track is 3:35. Now, I realize some tracks have a couple seconds where it's dead at the end, but 15 seconds?? The whole "put your arms around me" verse and the follow up chorus was slower than this. Also there was an spoken intro (which I suspected would have been edited off on the radio version). If this is the version they are sending to radio... in the U.S., it will bomb!! you sure you didnt hear the remix thats being played at the clubs?? cause from your descriptions, thats what it sounds like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I totally disagree! I luv the fact that she doesn't just make these short cheap tracks.. but music that builds up to something, have different elements etc. It hasn't damaged her work at all, it has helped her making more interesting pop music than the rest... the longer the better! It depends on the song. Of course some tracks that are epic like ROL and LAP justify their length, but there's no need for a simple pop song like Cherish to wank on past the 5 minute mark. What happened to the old 3 minute pop song adage? She's not a prog rock artist. Though there was also the argument in that book about the length of dance songs (longer for the dancefloor) versus pop songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 It depends on the song. Of course some tracks that are epic like ROL and LAP justify their length, but there's no need for a simple pop song like Cherish to wank on past the 5 minute mark. What happened to the old 3 minute pop song adage? She's not a prog rock artist. Though there was also the argument in that book about the length of dance songs (longer for the dancefloor) versus pop songs. I dunno.. I usually prefer when her songs are long but that's just me.. obviously I understand that a radio version might not be 5 minutes.. but for album versions I don't mind at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madximo Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Definitely not something new sound-wise, but it's groovy and the best part is the laughter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeMo Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 4 Minutes was recycled Timbaland sound... but it was just a couple of years dated Celebration on the other hand is 90's eurodance/trance/club all over again... like 15 years after its prime... so this is obviously not more refreshing... but i'm starting to accept it for what it is atleast (a GH bonus track)... I mean it's a nice song.. just dated in the sound.. but as for a finally of the summer and as a party song I guess it's ok! You're OBVIOUSLY behind the times considering the 90s are coming back with a VENGEANCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The first time she laughed in song was "Angel," no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I dunno.. I usually prefer when her songs are long but that's just me.. obviously I understand that a radio version might not be 5 minutes.. but for album versions I don't mind at all Perfect example of an overlong song - Incredible The radio edit of Frozen was 5 minutes cause the original was so long and I think it's a lot better Then again at the other side of the scale the tracks on the first album would need to be long as there's only 8 songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_boogiewoogie Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm officially addicted to the Dubtronic Extended version!!!! Check it out!!!!! It's so well done!!!!! GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madximo Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The first time she laughed in song was "Angel," no? Very probably so! I love her laughter, it's so addictive... The 90s are definitely back, hasn't Lady Gaga a strongly 90s-inspired sound? Isn't she successful? Btw, it's funny Madonna didn't follow the eurodance trend in the 90s only to take it over some 15 years later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 You're OBVIOUSLY behind the times considering the 90s are coming back with a VENGEANCE. I live in Europe and the 90's never really left here so... yes it IS dated.. not that it can't be good because of that... but I guess I expected more from Madonna.. but... this is just a nice treat for the GH and hopefully no indication what so ever for what the next studio album will sound like.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The first time she laughed in song was "Angel," no? Fabulous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Mm, not my thing. Maybe I'll warm up to it. I love the remix though. Is that up yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Perfect example of an overlong song - Incredible The radio edit of Frozen was 5 minutes cause the original was so long and I think it's a lot better Then again at the other side of the scale the tracks on the first album would need to be long as there's only 8 songs But Incredible sucks even if it would be just 1 min short! as for Frozen, the album version is the real deal! This is one of those tracks that should be long.. building up moments and stuff.. making it epic you can't do that with short tracks that's a problem I have with for instance "Voices" on HC... it has this epic thing going on and then it just ends... it should have been atleast half a minute longer or something.. it could have been something really special.. it had the potential to be the "Frozen" of HC.. well it still kinda is but still not because they made it shorter and took away potentials... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Very probably so! I love her laughter, it's so addictive... The 90s are definitely back, hasn't Lady Gaga a strongly 90s-inspired sound? Isn't she successful? Btw, it's funny Madonna didn't follow the eurodance trend in the 90s only to take it over some 15 years later! Lady GaGa is urban pop... not really 90's maybe "Eh Eh".. because it sounds almost Ace of Base-ish... but not so much the rest... to just use techno synths is not making it 90's... even Timbaland did that on some of his productions... 90's is this whole dance thing which Madonna made in her song and.. Cascada and Basshunter and DJ Sammy aswell haha and millions more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I erased it. I don't want to taint my Madonna collection. I joke, I joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny86 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 and the 90's never really left here so... yes it IS dated.. Exactly, it's just more noticeable now because there's no "Umbrella" or some other summer hit from the US to overshadow that. These kinda songs have been regularly appearing on the UK charts in the past years as well, definitely one of her safest singles ever. About the track length, I agree with you, most of the time it helps that a Madonna track is longer than your average radio pop song. I think the only time it didn't help was COADF, wher most of the tracks were made longer with countless repeats of the chorus. Compare that to the likes of "LAP", "Frozen", "Ray Of Light", "Paradise", "She's Not Me"... They don't work as short tracks at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 But, thing is, C doesn't sound like Cascada or DJ Sammy. Don't hear it in the music, and certainly not in the vocals. It's more like "When Love Takes Over," at least in its main dance beat (obviously not like WLTO's Coldplay "Clocks"-like music). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Exactly, it's just more noticeable now because there's no "Umbrella" or some other summer hit from the US to overshadow that. These kinda songs have been regularly appearing on the UK charts in the past years as well, definitely one of her safest singles ever. About the track length, I agree with you, most of the time it helps that a Madonna track is longer than your average radio pop song. I think the only time it didn't help was COADF, wher most of the tracks were made longer with countless repeats of the chorus. Compare that to the likes of "LAP", "Frozen", "Ray Of Light", "Paradise", "She's Not Me"... They don't work as short tracks at all. Agree with all you said! Here in Europe that 90's dance sound is constantly going on.. not that it is as big as during the 90's.. but still Maybe in the US it might sound fresh or whatever because there's so little of that sound there and radio is barely touching it... but it is not fresh nor is it a comeback of that sound either.. Praying for a trip-hop, indie, classy-fresh-pop with great production, fresh sounds and great melodies for the debut LN album next!! Until then we have to live with this 90's rewind thing.. oh well.. gonna dance to it like crazy when i'm drunk for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezwer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 But, thing is, C doesn't sound like Cascada or DJ Sammy. Don't hear it in the music, and certainly not in the vocals. It's more like "When Love Takes Over," at least in its main dance beat (obviously not like WLTO's Coldplay "Clocks"-like music). Well... afterall it's Madonna so atleast it has to be a LITTLE more classy than Cascada for sure.. but dated it still is though.. I just hope it won't hurt Madonna's credibility as an quality artist.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest groovyguy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 PURE MADONNA, retro and modern, dance and fun, catchy chorus and bridge, great rhythm. Luv it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 http://bit.ly/ggagL the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyralexxx Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 http://bit.ly/ggagL the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruby Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 She needs to add Heartbeat to the Celebration so she can release it after this and Revolver(?). ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciccone's Cheeks Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I agree with Holiday Guy - this is quite similar to the beat and 4 on the floor beats that 'When Love Takes Over' has - retro but modern and cool. Yes, its still very mid-late 90s but its not as bad as DJ Sammy etc...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Hecty Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 "Celebration" already available on Masterbeat.com!!!!! Masterbeat is selling "Celebration" https://www.masterbeat.com/#release/054391987426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 She needs to add Heartbeat to the Celebration so she can release it after this and Revolver(?). ! Um, no. That ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomer Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 "Celebration" already available on Masterbeat.com!!!!! Masterbeat is selling "Celebration" https://www.masterbeat.com/#release/054391987426 They have Ashley Jizzdale remixes as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ursaminorjim Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Perfect example of an overlong song - Incredible Nah. "Incredible" was exactly as long as it needed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? COME JOIN THE PARTY! IT'S A CELEBRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flirt2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 c'mon august 4th or 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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