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  1. On 11/10/2022 at 7:58 PM, karbatal said:

    They are losing. And I guess now he’s trying to save face. 
     

    What a sad useless war. As most wars I guess. 

    But now it appears they have launched missiles that have landed in Poland causing damage and killing people. He is loosing and getting frustrated.

    I can see WW3 by the end of the month if NATO get together and Poland plan a counter attack.
     

    Of course everyone involved in NATO will do their best to avoid it terrified of nuclear weapons.

  2. Just now, Kim said:

    The BBC (another institution that's gone to shit) were premature in reporting that. We still don't know for certain, but he might scrape the 100 needed. I'm also seeing reports that if the members do vote for him the parliamentary group might just ignore the result.

    Let’s hope so but that snake won’t miss a sodding chance. 

  3. On 10/21/2022 at 2:42 PM, Cyber-Raga said:

    So strange that a PM can simply quit in the UK and then some elitist members of a party can install a new one just like that without Parliament or the public voting on this. Meanwhile that new PM can introduce legislation which will have severe consequences for everyone down the road. 
    How come people aren’t on the streets and protesting for a new general election? 

    Oh they’ll be protests for sure.

     

  4. 4 minutes ago, funkydita said:

    I’m not sure that matters right now. This is a single issue race, the economy and nothing else.
     

    They’ll want to show that they have someone with a solid grasp and experience the economy, rather than e.g. Braverman’s identity politics and immigration war or the untested inexperience of Mordaunt, Lewis or whoever else is in the running. Though Johnson, whilst of course possible, I just can’t see how they’d do it with a straight face when he’s been deemed unfit for office so recently. But who know?

    I still think it does matter.

    Had the stuff about his wife not paying tax for years not been revealed and the public turning, he would of hands down won the leadership race not Liz truss. 

    But the tories knew the bad press he had got because of it and it stinks of entitlement and a tad of corruption so it wouldn’t work for a PM……they were replacing Borris because of his behaviour so replacing with another who’s behaviour had been called so publicly into question (association wig no tax wifey) wouldn’t of made sense.

    I don’t think it’s all forgotten now. I don’t think they will vote him in.

  5. 27 minutes ago, funkydita said:

    Famous last words but I just can’t see the Johnson thing happening, not so soon after being forced to resign in disgrace after his Cabinet ran for the hills. My bet at this point is that Sunak runs again and wins based on coming second last time and publicly calling Truss’ economic plans “a fairytale” during the leadership race. 

    Stranger things have happened with the tories!

     

    10 minutes ago, Kim said:

    Yeah I'm thinking Sunak. Seems they're going for 2 candidates only and an online vote from the entire membership - so Bozo would be in with a chance.

    Trouble with Sunak is the public turned when we found out wifey hasn’t paid tax for yonks.

  6. 4 hours ago, runa said:

    I’m sorry, but this is beyond ridiculous. 

    There’s plenty of images of King George and The Queen Mother in the blitz in history books written about WW2. I remember seeing them at school.

    There are plenty of documentaries made that discuss the King and Queen going out during the war and the blitz. All very well documented in history books.

    So therefore I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch the Queens address will get a mention in British history books when they write about covid.

  7. 7 hours ago, Kim said:

    Hold on a fucking minute. The royals went MIA during Covid then someone decided Betty should eventually say something months later. What WILL go down in history is the 200 THOUSAND deaths, worst death toll in Europe and the rampant cronyism/ moneymaking by the govt of the time....not some old codger popping up to utter some pathetic platitudes.

    Oh and now it's the "my royals are more famous than yours" nonsense? Really?

    it’s hardly nonsense the Spanish royal family are no where near as famous as the British royal family.  

  8. 2 hours ago, karbatal said:

    No king or queen is in history books after parliamentary society was established. They can be named but since XX century history is explained through presidents and prime ministers. Nobody will explain Brexit naming this woman just like nobody will explain the 2008 economic crisis in Spain naming the King. 

    I’m sure The Queens national address when covid happened will be written in the history books in Britain when the time comes and it’s written about.

    The Spanish monarchy isn’t written or followed half as much as the British monarchy. It never has been.

    I highly doubt the King of Spain’s funeral will get 11 millions viewers in America or that Netflix’s would do a series about the King of Spain’s reign.

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, Lolo said:

    Then why movies and TV shows are made about them? Endless documentaries, mass tourism based on current and former Monarchy’s? It’s one thing to be in books as a political player and a complete other thing to be in the public consciousness. You might be right about the Monarchies in Scandinavia or Netherlands or Spain or Belgium. no one cares for those, that’s true. 😆
     

    I mean even M made a movie about Monarchy. 

    They’ll be plenty of things coming up regarding the Queen. The Crown itself is one of Netflix’s biggest shows followed by people globally and it’s all about Elizabeth’s reign.

  10. 18 minutes ago, karbatal said:

    That’s what I said!!!!!! 
     

    Ok you are either incredibly stupid or you are pulling my leg. Bye.

    I’m not stupid I was just replying and making the point Victoria did nothing but is very much remembered today Elizabeth did nothing and ….. will be remembered as well (in my humble opinion).

    Im not pulling your leg I was genuinely replying hun. 😚

  11. 1 minute ago, karbatal said:

    She did nothing except being born and living long. I think you really don’t respect the effort of every day people if you think those two Mathusalems did anything except dying at old age and giving children to pass the crown.

    I have not once said I respect her or love her none of the sort in any of my posts.

    I don’t believe in elitism or that people are born better! But we are discussing historic relevance and people in history books here. 

  12. 4 minutes ago, karbatal said:

    People who did arts, literature and invention  defined the Victorian era. Victoria did nothing. Elizabeth doesn’t even has her name attached to an era. She will be forgotten or simply remembered as that old woman who was queen very long. In the end she was queen because she was born and her biggest accomplishment is that her father died when she was young and she managed to live a long life. Nothing of it was in her hands.

    The world has totally changed in Elizabeth’s reign. The country or Britain has totally changed beyond recognition. She reigned over that.

  13. Just now, karbatal said:

    People who do important things that are documented are in history. Don’t be obtuse.

    You said yourself Victoria did nothing, which in essence is true, 

    But she existed as a Queen and had a mighty long reign. That was enough. Let’s not pretend just people who do important things are remembered. Kim Kardashian will be remembered. 

  14. What’s the relevance of anybody in history ? 
     

    Its  all subjective. 
     

    But certain people are more catapulted to a place over others. Diana for instance for her untimely death has sealed much of her place and continued fascination in history.

    The Queen for living such a long life and obtaining the longest reign of any female monarch. Might not be much to some it’s everything to others.

    To some Diana was a saintly woman who tried to save the world to others she was a designer dress who married a prince. Doesn’t change her place in history and the fact she will be remembered.  

  15. 2 minutes ago, karbatal said:

    Well she really is part of royal history. But she is no part of history at all. Just like nobody outside the UK remembers the name of her father. At least Victoria lived through an era where decorative arts changed and middle classes arrived, so there is a Victorian era. But thst Victoria did NOTHING at all her whole life either. People crafted that era, not her. She was another witness.

    Her father hardly let the U.K the Queen was the most travelled monarch she was everywhere hence she is far more known than her father ever was.

    The Queen was arguably the most famous woman in the world. Or certainly one of them.

  16. 3 minutes ago, karbatal said:

    People remember De Gaule or Churchill because they were pivotal in history. This woman has been a witness in history just like any other person in their 90s. She hasn’t really done anything special. Nothing to be remembered except that she died of old age. Once you start to think what she did as queen she simply tried to survive and to pass the snobbish old ways to her children. That is her real legacy: she lived a long life at expense of others and tried to maintain the values so her children could do the same. Not a single good thing to be remembered. 

    Maybe not good things to you, but still things she will be remembered for.

    What did Queen Victoria do? Nothing really she was merely a figure head same as Elizabeth 2nd but she is very much remembered. her name defined an entire era.

    It’s too early to call out how she will be remembered but they’ll be memorials popping up all the place and plenty written about her in the immediate years to come.

    To say she won’t be remembered no one cares which are the comments I was replying to are simply rubbish. 
     

     

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